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Somebody tell me this is satire, please!

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Taken from P.Z. Myers' blog:
Tom Willis wrote:Clearly then, "evolutionists should not be allowed to roam free in the land." All that remains for us to discuss is "What should be done with evolutionists?" For the purposes of this essay, I will ignore the minor issue of Western-style jurisprudence and merely mention possible solutions to the "evolutionism problem," leaving the legal details to others:

* Labor camps. Their fellow believers were high on these. But, my position would be that most of them have lived their lives at, or near the public trough. So, after their own beliefs, their life should continue only as long as they can support themselves in the camps.

* Require them to wear placards around their neck, or perhaps large medallions which prominently announce "Warning: Evolutionist! Mentally Incompetent - Potentially Dangerous." I consider this option too dangerous.

* Since evolutionists are liars and most do not really believe evolution we could employ truth serum or water-boarding to obtain confessions of evolution rejection. But, this should, at most, result in parole, because, like Muslims, evolutionist religion permits them to lie if there is any benefit to them.

* An Evolutionist Colony in Antarctica could be a promising option. Of course inspections would be required to prevent too much progress. They might invent gunpowder. A colony on Mars would prevent gunpowder from harming anyone but their own kind, in the unlikely event they turned out to be intelligent enough to invent it.

* All options should include 24-hour sound system playing Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, and Sam Harris reading Darwin's Origin of Species, or the preservation of Favored Races by Means of Natural Selection. Of course some will consider this cruel & unusual, especially since they will undoubtedly have that treatment for eternity.
Can this actually not be satire? After all the effort to link the Holocaust with evolutionary theory, could even the dumbest creationists write an essay that simply takes Nazi ideas and replaces "Jew" with "Evolutionist"? I know they abhor logic, but this is just, well, I don't think I can do better than "batshit insane".
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I wish I could. However shit like this is why I want to get and keep a loaded firearm in my house a.s.a.p.
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This shit is fucking disturbing.

Most satire pieces where evolutionists are slaves or something are written in a way that a creationist cannot pick it out because their beliefs are so flexible that you could say that atheists faint when hearing Gods name, but so that atheists can pick up on it because they can see the exaggeration.

I can't say that about this. :(
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You can tell that its satire because it would be funny. This is not funny, not even in the most remote sense, thus someone out there is this idiotic.
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It's not funny, so I don't think it's satire.

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Re: Somebody tell me this is satire, please!

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Johonebesus wrote:
Can this actually not be satire? After all the effort to link the Holocaust with evolutionary theory, could even the dumbest creationists write an essay that simply takes Nazi ideas and replaces "Jew" with "Evolutionist"? I know they abhor logic, but this is just, well, I don't think I can do better than "batshit insane".
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This is not satire. Willis really is that batshit-insane. He's Westboro-insane.
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Post by Alerik the Fortunate »

Well, I don't think anyone's surprised; it looks generic to me, though the atomic cross might make an interesting symbol for a future religious order in a scifi setting.
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I don't know why this should be all that surprising; religious organizations did burn people alive for being non believers at one point.
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Invictus ChiKen wrote:I wish I could. However shit like this is why I want to get and keep a loaded firearm in my house a.s.a.p.
How about already owning two (the shottys action is a little sticky)? Honestly the further and further I mentally get away from religion, the more paranoid about it I become.

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Ick. Saw this earlier, and I have every reason to believe the asshole has no concept of how close to a Godwin's Law violation he's skirting. Concentration camps!? FFS!
RIPP_n_WIPE wrote:(the shottys action is a little sticky)
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Actually I wouldn't mind a martian colony with no religious people allowed. :P

But yeah, seriously, this guy is fucking nuts.
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darthdavid wrote:Actually I wouldn't mind a martian colony with no religious people allowed. :P

But yeah, seriously, this guy is fucking nuts.
Only trouble is that religion abhors a vacuum. You ban any Earthly religion, I guarantee you dollars to donuts several (dozen? hundred? thousand?) purely Martian ones will spring up, and at least one of these will be as virulently fundamentalist, homophobic/misogynist (they're two faces of the same thing), racist, sexually repressive, and murderous as any Wahhabi or Southern Baptist could dream of.

The flaw is our Us Versus Them tribalism and Thar Mentality, not any one religion. Science may be what breaks these toxic chains of self-perpetuating poverty and slavery.
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Oh my, if we could somehow use Tom Willis' projecting power, we'd solve the energy problem
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Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
darthdavid wrote:Actually I wouldn't mind a martian colony with no religious people allowed. :P

But yeah, seriously, this guy is fucking nuts.
Only trouble is that religion abhors a vacuum. You ban any Earthly religion, I guarantee you dollars to donuts several (dozen? hundred? thousand?) purely Martian ones will spring up, and at least one of these will be as virulently fundamentalist, homophobic/misogynist (they're two faces of the same thing), racist, sexually repressive, and murderous as any Wahhabi or Southern Baptist could dream of.
Perhaps, perhaps not. There's been research that seems to show that religiousity has a fairly strong genetic component; if you weeded out all the religious from the starting population you could have a group of people much less prone to religion of any kind.
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That and you could educate the population and make them learn to think more rationally. This is eaiser has religion has not taken root yet in the said population so this task will be a lot easier as there is no one opposing it.
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