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I feel like I'm pissing on a forest fire...

Post by Glocksman »

This may belong in OT or SLAM, so feel free to move it if needed.

As part of my effort to assist the Obama campaign, when my local paper's website's comments section features obvious bullsht, I counter it with the facts and links to said facts.
Despite that, at times I feel as if I'm just pissing on a fire because the ones spreading the obvious bullshit ignore my posts and just keep repeating the same shit ala Sean Hannity.
For examples, just read some of the opinions on S. Osseita and the election in my paper's opinion section.

Should I just fucking give it up as a lost cause (keep in mind that I'm here in Southern Indiana, not a hotbed of liberalism) or should I continue?
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I'd say keep at it. You probably won't get any large group to pay attention to your responses, but some might argue that if you can get even one person to think beyond the lies and bull of various political zealots of the right wing, that you've managed a victory.

But that might be overly optimistic of me. :?:

Good luck, regardless.
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Post by Korvan »

Keep it up, when it comes to comments and forums, the people reading far outnumber the people posting. Your reaching a lot more people than you realize.
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Post by Sriad »

If you were stuck in a red backwater of a solidly Obama state I'd say let it be, but Indiana is currently polling as a swing state. Even though the shitstacks who are posting lies never change, being sure that facts are right next to falsehoods may help swing-voters make the right choice.
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Post by Patrick Degan »

Keep firing. The object of the exercise is not to convince the DittoBorg but rather the fence-sitters who might be swayed the right way by a well-injected dose of sanity.
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Keep it up as much as possible. You're probably not going to sway the morons that right these things; those people tend to not want to change their mind. But you may sway people that are still not decided and that probably matters more.
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The truth has its boots on and it's kicking. Keep it up.
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Sriad wrote:If you were stuck in a red backwater of a solidly Obama state I'd say let it be, but Indiana is currently polling as a swing state. Even though the shitstacks who are posting lies never change, being sure that facts are right next to falsehoods may help swing-voters make the right choice.
Yeah, that's what I'm going to do.
It's just so frustrating that the shitstains ignore simple facts and continue to knowingly peddle lies.

Hell, I used to believe the same shit, but I did so honestly and when superior viewpoints proved me wrong, I changed my tune instead of sticking my head in the sand.
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You're pissing on a fire rather than an electric fence. There's no way to know how much you're accomplishing, but at least it won't hurt you.
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Post by irishmick79 »

I believe Dark Helmet summed it up best:

"Keep firing, assholes!"
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Post by Keevan_Colton »

LadyTevar wrote:The truth has its boots on and it's kicking. Keep it up.
And some folk wonder how I managed to find a Pratchett quote for every academic essay. ;)

I have to agree, you're not doing it to sway the folk spewing the bullshit, but to sway those that are reading it. Keep fighting the good fight.
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Post by Einhander Sn0m4n »

Keep shooting! This is what the Front Line looks like. The fascists already know they're in the wrong, but they're simply trying to plug up your firing port with their own bodies. That's why each time you shoot one down, there's always a next one to take up the bloody banner of Right Wing Authoritarianism they're carrying.

Make it a wasted effort and get really well versed in how to make a wingnut look like a total moron and asshole in one to anyone with a brain. And whatever you do, keep firing!!
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Post by Drooling Iguana »

Keep posting, and try to recruit a few others to do the same. The liars' main advantage right now is volume; see if you can narrow the gap a little.
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Post by Glocksman »

If anyone want to see what I'm going up against, here's an excellent example.

Thread on VP choice.

Sharp eyed readers will notice that I borrowed a few lines from Mike and RedImperator, but I did so as quotes and attributed them to 'posters on a political forum'.

Notice that the same suspects just keep repeating the same bullshit over and over again.
It really is infuriating.
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Post by Alyrium Denryle »

Glocksman wrote:If anyone want to see what I'm going up against, here's an excellent example.

Thread on VP choice.

Sharp eyed readers will notice that I borrowed a few lines from Mike and RedImperator, but I did so as quotes and attributed them to 'posters on a political forum'.

Notice that the same suspects just keep repeating the same bullshit over and over again.
It really is infuriating.

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You should keep it up if only for the chance to end up in the Zing! column in the print edition. :lol:

For those who don't know, a set which probably includes everyone here besides Glocksman and I, the Courier & Press has taken to publishing a bi-weekly column in its opinion page entitled Zing!, wherein they print the best comments from the online comment threads.
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Post by Patrick Degan »

That thread is just so much babble.
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Post by Glocksman »

Patrick Degan wrote:That thread is just so much babble.
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Indeed it is, yet I hope that for the genuinely undecided person who reads it, my posts will help them reach a decision based on facts and logic, instead of the scaremongering GOP 'he's a sekrit musim' garbage.

I don't like the 'noble loser' bullshit some dems seem to have because the issue at stake is the future of the entire country.
If I had my way, half of the Obama ad buys would consist of ads highlighting McSame's plans for Social Security and health care.

Once you get Grandma to believe the truth that McSame wants to give her pension to the Wall St. sharks, she'll turn around and vote for Obama in a hurry.
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Post by Jeremy »

Quit now and vote Know-Nothing.
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Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Keep shooting! This is what the Front Line looks like. The fascists already know they're in the wrong, but they're simply trying to plug up your firing port with their own bodies. That's why each time you shoot one down, there's always a next one to take up the bloody banner of Right Wing Authoritarianism they're carrying.

Make it a wasted effort and get really well versed in how to make a wingnut look like a total moron and asshole in one to anyone with a brain. And whatever you do, keep firing!!
Heh...I've picked out one target in particular and I'm just needling him over every error he makes and being all condescending as hell while doing it.

He's ignoring me for now, but I have a feeling he's about ready to blow up and make a total jackass of himself.

Comments on Local Dems going to Denver.

BTW, the target is Howard23. :twisted:
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."- General Sir Charles Napier

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Post by Einhander Sn0m4n »

Here's an idea: link the forum (the paper, not SDN) on various Chans. Don't say 'Attack this target' or anything else, because they'll just respond 'NYPA!'

Then copypasta the results here so we can also have the Lulz. :lol:
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Post by Bluewolf »

Keep going, its not worth stopping now and you could really make some change, you never know. At least you are trying which is important and you could encourage others.
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Post by Surlethe »

You're pissing on a pretty big fire (Evansville, not a hotbed of liberalism? Understatement of the century :lol:), but the winds of change are with you, Glocksman. You guys voted out Hostettler in '06*, so the religious right is on the ebb there.

*Much to my in-laws' chagrin. :twisted:
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The worst the rightwing nuts in America can say about potential VP Biden is that "he talks too much". What the fuck does that mean? What kind of meaningful criticism is that?
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