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Scientific Proof that God exists! We're screwed!

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It's all over for us non-believers!

Shit though, I knew this was gonna be stupid as soon as I saw it in the Related Videos section. I also like how he deleted all the comments (except his and one other) and disabled the ability to comment on the video saying:
Idiot wrote:BTW, disabling comments or ratings is an unquestionable right for uploaders, PERIOD. There is no inappropriate content in this video, or comments. If you don't like this video then BACK-CLICK, or create a flawed video rebuttal.
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Could you please summarize this for us? Clicking on it and watching it generates him views and in case of total bullshit I do not want to be a part of somebody's self-advertising campaign.
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His description for the video. the actual video is pretty much the same stuff but with more patronizing insults against atheists who are not immediately overawed by his stunning logical deductions.
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"The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no God".- Psalms 14:1

Atheists, please stop making claims without support or scientific evidence. Also, please stop asking questions which were already answered in this video. EX. "Who created God?" Again, the 1st law confirms energy is eternal. Before the universe began, there must have existed an ORIGINAL, initial, energy source which has ALWAYS existed. This initial, original, energy source IS God. ( GOD IS THE CREATOR WHO IS UNCREATED)

Atheists may say " Well, all of the energy in the universe could have derived itself from multiple energy sources, not just a single one".That maybe true, but it still poses a serious problem. Multiple or single unintelligent energy source(s) would most likely result in chaos and disorder.

(cont) Because they can't regulate their outflow of energy thus, dispersing uncontrolled and violent emissions of energy without organization or order unlike an intelligent energy source (GOD).

Every example of DUMB energy source(s) that we can observe are volatile and destructive by nature and will NEVER create organization . Examples : the sun, tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes. Sure tornadoes or hurricanes may APPEAR organized but, they will never CREATE organization.

You can still hope that all of the energy in the universe originated from an unconscious, dumb, energy source or multiple ones, but it defies common sense and reasoning. We can clearly observe complexity, design, and order throughout the universe. The possibility of a single all powerful, intelligent, energy source (God) still remains ( This is more logical).

Atheists may also say " Well, based on the 2nd law of thermodynamics God may eventually disorganize and deteriorate overtime if he is composed of energy". God is composed of energy but not entirely energy. The God I serve is composed of INFINITE INTELLIGENCE as well.

(cont.) He can certainly be intelligent enough to break the boundaries of the 2nd law and find a way to harness his energy infinitely and NEVER result in disorder. If you can't agree with this explanation, you're putting limits on God which is simply IDIOTIC.

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Hurricanes are energy sources now? :D
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Hahahaha, oh dear! That's the funniest thing I've seen in quite some time. The last slide (for those who can't see it) says something about "And if you can't see the logic in that then you are stubborn and just don't want to believe in the possibility of a god"... get this... over the picture of a frowning baby. Oh, it's gold!

It's not a good argument, it's not a well thought out argument, hell, it's not even an obscured attempt to confuse. He even links to a Stephen Hawking page which, while I haven't looked at it, I assume rips apart his entire argument for the universe coming from nothing. Will do nothing but preach to the thoroughly converted, I'd say.
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Imbeciles like this are so locked into their mindset of assuming there must be an eternal mass/energy source outside the universe that they invent imaginary atheists' arguments to explain this problem, and then debunk them. It honestly doesn't occur to them that a smart atheist would just say that the universe itself is the eternal mass/energy source, ie- has existed for all time.

Same goes for their moronic notion that you need intelligence in order to create structure, when in fact all you need are rules (like the laws of physics). They invent imaginary atheist objections and then debunk them.

In both cases, it's obvious that they would never dare consult a scientist to see what real scientists would say in response to these arguments. They would prefer to debate imaginary scientists they created in their own minds.
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Destructionator XIII wrote: Yes, or they could be anyway. Some of their energy could be harnessed with some giant, sturdy windmills.
They're not really an energy source from the standpoint of the entire ecosystem ; They're more like an explosion than an explosive.
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If hurricanes are an energy source for the Earth's ecosystem, then so is the air turbulence behind my car when I drive.
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There is ONE major energy source for Earth: solar. That powers every major renewable from wind to PV. The gravitational and nuclear processes of the planet pale in comparison.

Who made the sun? Why, it was TEH LAWD!
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:There is ONE major energy source for Earth: solar. That powers every major renewable from wind to PV. The gravitational and nuclear processes of the planet pale in comparison.

Who made the sun? Why, it was TEH LAWD!
It's funny because of all the "energy sources" he mentioned, only the Sun is a real energy source, and it's neither random, chaotic or destructive.
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But is it divine? Look into your heart and you'll know it to be true.

Therefore, God exists. QED.
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The best thing comes at the end. "Possible existence of God".

Like he tries to be logical and reasonable and gives himself a small margin for error, after spewing out bullshit about "eternal energy sources that is creator God".
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Moron wrote:"The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no God".- Psalms 14:1
So... he's simply calling atheists "idiots" but using the Bible as a reference... I love how these morons think that their book authomatically applies as an authority to everyone. If it is said there then it must be true even if you don't believe in it. Reminds me of that Ray Comfort, that when asked why one should beieve on this god instead of Odin or Zeus he simply answered that because the 10 comandments forbid you to have any other gods :roll: ... Hello McFly! anybody home? if I don't believe in your freakin god why should I obey his comandments at all?
Atheists, please stop making claims without support or scientific evidence. Also, please stop asking questions which were already answered in this video. EX. "Who created God?" Again, the 1st law confirms energy is eternal. Before the universe began, there must have existed an ORIGINAL, initial, energy source which has ALWAYS existed. This initial, original, energy source IS God. ( GOD IS THE CREATOR WHO IS UNCREATED)
So, energy is ethernal... it can never be created nor destroyed. So this mistery energy source existed forever without been created and then CREATED the universe :roll:
Every example of DUMB energy source(s) that we can observe are volatile and destructive by nature and will NEVER create organization . Examples : the sun, tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes. Sure tornadoes or hurricanes may APPEAR organized but, they will never CREATE organization.
I'm not an expert, but last I checked without the sun life wouldn't be possible on Earth.
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Every example of DUMB energy source(s) that we can observe are volatile and destructive by nature and will NEVER create organization . Examples : the sun, tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes. Sure tornadoes or hurricanes may APPEAR organized but, they will never CREATE organization.
That purely depends on the definition of "orginization". If you mean Wordweb's definition of creation or giving structure, then the Sun is organised: it self-organizes by gravity, thermo- and plasma-dynamics and its fusion process.

The development of cosmic dust cloud to a "burning" sun is an interesting one but by no means impossible. Fusion exists, that has been confirmed. Dust gathers around other dust in zero-g, that too has been confirmed. We also have seen the ignition of mini-suns in dust clouds.

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Admiral Valdemar wrote:There is ONE major energy source for Earth: solar. That powers every major renewable from wind to PV. The gravitational and nuclear processes of the planet pale in comparison.
You're forgetting geothermal. I'm pretty sure that's not solar powered.
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Even if his argument wasn't rubbish, it wouldn't be an effective arguement for the existance of the Christian god - at best, it would be an argument for some kind of creating entity, but that entity would be more akin to the Deist god - aloof from Earthly matters, the great Engineer who set things in motion and was never heard from again.

A pretty far cry from the miracle-providing, vengeance-seeking, interventionist God of the Bible.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:There is ONE major energy source for Earth: solar. That powers every major renewable from wind to PV. The gravitational and nuclear processes of the planet pale in comparison.
You're forgetting geothermal. I'm pretty sure that's not solar powered.
Geothermal energy is heat from the interior of the earth. That comes largely from internal radioactive decay - i.e., the planet's nuclear processes.
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Darth Wong wrote:Same goes for their moronic notion that you need intelligence in order to create structure, when in fact all you need are rules (like the laws of physics). They invent imaginary atheist objections and then debunk them.
What makes it so silly to me is that they don't even have to be COMPLEX rules. A series of SIMPLE rules can make very complex structures, based on conditions they operate in and how the rules interact. Look at a protein; those can be ENORMOUS molecules with complex operation... but built from very simple parts and not even any unusual chemistry at all.
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Surlethe wrote: Geothermal energy is heat from the interior of the earth. That comes largely from internal radioactive decay - i.e., the planet's nuclear processes.
Uhm, yes? Which I why I'd consider it a major energy source for the earth and mentioned it in the first place. . .
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:But is it divine? Look into your heart and you'll know it to be true.

Therefore, God exists. QED.
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Darth Wong wrote:Same goes for their moronic notion that you need intelligence in order to create structure, when in fact all you need are rules (like the laws of physics). They invent imaginary atheist objections and then debunk them.
I think if you cited an example of a highly ordered, completely random structure in nature (like a snowflake) they would just reply that God designs them himself, or that he invented the laws of physics, or something equally specious.

Also, isn't there an estimate as to what percentage of matter and energy in the universe is in a chaotic, "useless" state (for example, dark matter)? Like 95% or something?
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:There is ONE major energy source for Earth: solar. That powers every major renewable from wind to PV. The gravitational and nuclear processes of the planet pale in comparison.

Who made the sun? Why, it was TEH LAWD!
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Video wrote: Every example of DUMB energy source(s) that we can observe are volatile and destructive by nature and will NEVER create organization . Examples : the sun, tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes. Sure tornadoes or hurricanes may APPEAR organized but, they will never CREATE organization.
The sun doesn't create organization? So, why do plants need plenty of sunlight?
You can still hope that all of the energy in the universe originated from an unconscious, dumb, energy source or multiple ones, but it defies common sense and reasoning. We can clearly observe complexity, design, and order throughout the universe. The possibility of a single all powerful, intelligent, energy source (God) still remains ( This is more logical).
I love how he attempts to use the word dumb for psychological manipulation. Clearly, it is dumb to believe life originated from non-sentient energy.
Atheists may also say " Well, based on the 2nd law of thermodynamics God may eventually disorganize and deteriorate overtime if he is composed of energy". God is composed of energy but not entirely energy. The God I serve is composed of INFINITE INTELLIGENCE as well.
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(cont.) He can certainly be intelligent enough to break the boundaries of the 2nd law and find a way to harness his energy infinitely and NEVER result in disorder. If you can't agree with this explanation, you're putting limits on God which is simply IDIOTIC.
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The picture of the planet and its moon were great wouldn't mind getting a copy of the picture. The person who put together that show was a kid wasn'y he it didn't come across as a adult arguement.
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The Big I wrote:The picture of the planet and its moon were great wouldn't mind getting a copy of the picture. The person who put together that show was a kid wasn'y he it didn't come across as a adult arguement.
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