SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread II
Minoy is going to get its ass kicked six ways from Sunday, but you may take some of your own losses (relatively light). Beware of SAMs.Raj Ahten wrote:Quick question here, what sort of airplane losses would I be able to expect from someone like Minoy (Who doesn't have an OOB), but is apparantly a third world force with their best aircraft being a Mirage III up against someone with AWACS and 4.5 gen jets?
Also, what the hell is Coiler doing sending out his planes with AAMs at all?
That's what I was figuring. The ground attack missions are what'll be dangerous , down where all the mobile AA guns are located that I can't mess around with as much with my Electronic Warfare assets.phongn wrote:Minoy is going to get its ass kicked six ways from Sunday, but you may take some of your own losses (relatively light). Beware of SAMs.Raj Ahten wrote:Quick question here, what sort of airplane losses would I be able to expect from someone like Minoy (Who doesn't have an OOB), but is apparantly a third world force with their best aircraft being a Mirage III up against someone with AWACS and 4.5 gen jets?
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How do you figure. B-1s may carry more weapons, but it has less range, less speed than a Tu-160. Tu-160 are ideal for fast insertion bombing runs.Raj Ahten wrote:I might. Can't beat Stas on price for supersnic bombers for $30 mil apop though. Though B-1's are vastly superior.Shroom Man 777 wrote:Okay, he's using BAM tankers.
Want some B-1Bs?
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If I remember properly the Backfire had really bad teething problems and isn't particularly reliable. (Not that the B-1 didn't have it's own developement problems back in the day.)Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:How do you figure. B-1s may carry more weapons, but it has less range, less speed than a Tu-160. Tu-160 are ideal for fast insertion bombing runs.Raj Ahten wrote:I might. Can't beat Stas on price for supersnic bombers for $30 mil apop though. Though B-1's are vastly superior.Shroom Man 777 wrote:Okay, he's using BAM tankers.
Want some B-1Bs?
Mainly though I'd think the electronics on the B-1 would be a lot better than a Soviet era machine.
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The Russians have been modernizing the craft of late, including more reliable engines. Plus, these aircraft were known to have very extensive EW suites to deal with enemy SAMs.Raj Ahten wrote:If I remember properly the Backfire had really bad teething problems and isn't particularly reliable. (Not that the B-1 didn't have it's own developement problems back in the day.)
Mainly though I'd think the electronics on the B-1 would be a lot better than a Soviet era machine.
In any case, the ones I operate have been made to work with NATO machines, and I plan to look into upgrading it one more time.
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Minoy might have some up-rated MiG-21s. That seems to be the gold standard for Third World rattletrap air forces. A handful of MiG-27s would be their "crown jewels", probably, for air strikes.
Mostly lots and lots of SAMs to counter everyone else's air superiority. Go with SA-7s, SA-3s, SA-2s and ZU-23s aplenty.
Minoy might have some up-rated MiG-21s. That seems to be the gold standard for Third World rattletrap air forces. A handful of MiG-27s would be their "crown jewels", probably, for air strikes.
Mostly lots and lots of SAMs to counter everyone else's air superiority. Go with SA-7s, SA-3s, SA-2s and ZU-23s aplenty.
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Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
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Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
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So, Marina says that she'll have the final map up by 1 September; all OOB revisions will have to be posted by that time.
Okay, I think it's time for me to just screw the point system altogether, steal a real-life military's OOB, and tweak it for my use. Singapore looks like a good model with which to start...
Okay, I think it's time for me to just screw the point system altogether, steal a real-life military's OOB, and tweak it for my use. Singapore looks like a good model with which to start...
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If there are any incorrect facts in my recent post, Skimmer, feel free to tell me so I can correct them.
Also, to say it here as well, New Olympia is called the Adabani Republic. New Olympia is the capital of the former Cascadia colony and actually the formal name itself.
In fact, in this world, my counter-part's wife is part-Adabani (I figure that being generally Arabic in ethnic background it's not crazy to figure some resembled Persians more).
Also, to say it here as well, New Olympia is called the Adabani Republic. New Olympia is the capital of the former Cascadia colony and actually the formal name itself.
In fact, in this world, my counter-part's wife is part-Adabani (I figure that being generally Arabic in ethnic background it's not crazy to figure some resembled Persians more).
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I'm not sure how wide-spread AEGIS should feasibly be. For the moment I'm considering it used on my Columbia-class missile cruisers and my John Q. Adams-class destroyers.
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"No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism." - Sir Winston L. S. Churchill, Princips Britannia
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DONALD J. TRUMP IS A SEDITIOUS TRAITOR AND MUST BE IMPEACHED
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American Conservatism is about the exercise of personal responsibility without state interference in the lives of the citizenry..... unless, of course, it involves using the bludgeon of state power to suppress things Conservatives do not like.
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At this point, developed nations should be able to afford something with Aegis (or equivalent) on most newer ships, including frigates.Steve wrote:I'm not sure how wide-spread AEGIS should feasibly be. For the moment I'm considering it used on my Columbia-class missile cruisers and my John Q. Adams-class destroyers.
So...dudes...
Because I suck at names, I officially announce the FASTA naming contest. Winner gets an imaginary internet t-shirt
We need names for:
1) The INITIAL booster family
2) The intermediate (LINEBACKER) booster family (I'm inclined to just call them Protons
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3) The Moon rocket. We need something really cool for that one.
Because I suck at names, I officially announce the FASTA naming contest. Winner gets an imaginary internet t-shirt
We need names for:
1) The INITIAL booster family
2) The intermediate (LINEBACKER) booster family (I'm inclined to just call them Protons
)3) The Moon rocket. We need something really cool for that one.
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
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I have no idea why, but the name of the Saturn rocket seems...perfect to me, for some reason.phongn wrote:The NASA names were awesome and need no changing
Damn, I guess we'll need to make decision about the launch site soon, eh? The discussion seems to have died down
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MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
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Damn it! With me out of the picture for two weeks, man...
I would've so ruled that naming contest.
I say we get to do our civilian and scientific launches in the IRT. Our military stuff can be done somewhere more... trustworthy.
Our IRT collaboration will probably make the Tonkinese like us some more - and then we can buy REAL ballistic missiles from them and shit. We might become their biggest customers! If they can sell to Shep and Lonestar, they can sell to us!
I would've so ruled that naming contest.
I say we get to do our civilian and scientific launches in the IRT. Our military stuff can be done somewhere more... trustworthy.
Our IRT collaboration will probably make the Tonkinese like us some more - and then we can buy REAL ballistic missiles from them and shit. We might become their biggest customers! If they can sell to Shep and Lonestar, they can sell to us!
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Okay... to "explain" my absence for two weeks, Prime Minister Shroom will be visiting the Crimson Star Republic and the Sirnoth Principality of Setzer.
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Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people
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The Byzantine Empire and the CSR will quite likely object to overfraternisation with the enemy.Shroom Man 777 wrote:Damn it! With me out of the picture for two weeks, man...
I would've so ruled that naming contest.
I say we get to do our civilian and scientific launches in the IRT. Our military stuff can be done somewhere more... trustworthy.
Our IRT collaboration will probably make the Tonkinese like us some more - and then we can buy REAL ballistic missiles from them and shit. We might become their biggest customers! If they can sell to Shep and Lonestar, they can sell to us!
Your spirit, diseased as it is, refuses to allow you to give up, no matter what threats you face... and whatever wreckage you leave behind you.
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Hrm... damn it. We need a location as close to the equator as possible.
How close in NASA's Florida launch site to the equator? Will Comona or San Dorado or Jerusalem be as close?
How close in NASA's Florida launch site to the equator? Will Comona or San Dorado or Jerusalem be as close?
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Why not base the space launch infrastructre in Byzantium? It's fairly close to equator after all.
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Shroomania is closer. The equator actually bisects the IRT. Um... maybe somewhere in Arabia would be good too. San Dorado is also on the table.
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Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people
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We'd be more than happy to host the launch facilities. Despite our reputation, San Dorado is actually really a quite safe place to operate out of... Most of the time .
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