SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread II

[Czechmate]

IF they make it there, I would not be particularly bothered by the Gorshkov and a couple escorts being under Klavo's control.

[Sea Skimmer]

Results:
RAF issues unavoidable warning to Zunpuntra would-be attackers.
Canissians try to reign in Katangwan Militia.
Canissian Engineers begin building a berm on the Katangwan side of the newly-established border.

Hey you know separation deal has been agreed too, and if you start trying to build a berm without Japanistanis consent, it’s going to be plowed back down by my bulldozers at best, or more likely a war is going to break out and your forces are on the long end of an extremely tenuous air only logistics pipeline. You’ve used planes to move every ounce of cargo you brought into the country so you can’t have anything like the stockpiles Japanistan has built up with numerous large convoys of merchant ships.

[Raj Ahten]

IF they make it there, I would not be particularly bothered by the Gorshkov and a couple escorts being under Klavo's control.

It is entirely feasible for several ships to make it into an FTO nation's territorial water's; the PRSF borders the Vineyards so they wouldn’t have to dash that far. I doubt Beowulf would bomb them once they reach that point.

So anyway, just when did you start caring what the FTO does or gets? Isn't it your opinion that the FTO is pointless and you don't care about what we do or think?

[Czechmate]

The PRSF ships have to dash past the TJ/TX battlegroup that's been steadily edging toward Livorno for days and actively racing there since the CSR left. The PRSF vessels -just- departed.

I'm sure, however, a number of them will make it through. Now, on to something more important. I have calculated the assets remaining to the PRSF's air force and navy AS OF THIS TIME;

The People's Navy (PN)

-1 Vikramaditya CVL w/ 5 MiG-29K + 8 Ka-27 Helix (13 MiGs were lost)
-2 Slava CG + 4 Ka-27 Helix (1 damaged during naval missile exchange)
-5 Sovremeniy DDG + 10 Ka-27 Helix
-4 Neustrashimy FFG + 4 Ka-27 Helix (2 ships were lost during naval missile exchange w/ helicopters aboard)
-10 Kilo-class SSK (1 was lost during submarine duel)
-~10 assorted support ships
-1 LPD
-2 LSTs

The People's Air Force (PAF) - Includes naval fighters.

-31 MiG-23 (17 lost during air combat against TJAF and TXAF over Leicester Range)
-17 MiG-21 (43 lost during air combat against TJAF and TXAF over Leicester Range)
-5 MiG-29K (13 lost during failed naval aviation strike)
-18 Tu-95 (saw no action)
-0 Tu-22 (6 lost during failed naval aviation strike)
-19 Su-25 (5 lost during anti-ground combat operations)
-15 Su-39 (9 lost during anti-ground combat operations)

The People's Army has no way of escaping and therefore is not listed.

[Raj Ahten]

To FUN people regarding my industrial espionage: If you don't think it is fair to have it taking place in Shroomania while Shroom is away, I can simply move the scene to a Pezookian park instead.

[Master_Baerne]

I recommend that the Duchess handle the distribution of PRSF resources; we've all got much too much of a vested interest. Unless some uninvolved nation felt like doing it?

[The Duchess of Zeon]

I recommend that the Duchess handle the distribution of PRSF resources; we've all got much too much of a vested interest. Unless some uninvolved nation felt like doing it?

I'm totally doing it myself.

[Steve]

Can someone please get us a map of al-Akharabat so we know where things are? I know where I intended el-Kalim to be when I wrote of it, but I think we all seem to have different ideas of who is where.

[Sea Skimmer]

Can someone please get us a map of al-Akharabat so we know where things are? I know where I intended el-Kalim to be when I wrote of it, but I think we all seem to have different ideas of who is where.

Just threw one up of my ideas, Al-Sukin is the big red dot in the north of the country. I know I posted a more basic version of this map before.

[RogueIce]

Can someone please get us a map of al-Akharabat so we know where things are? I know where I intended el-Kalim to be when I wrote of it, but I think we all seem to have different ideas of who is where.

Just threw one up of my ideas, Al-Sukin is the big red dot in the north of the country. I know I posted a more basic version of this map before.

Indeed, but we seem to be all over the place. All this time we're basically talking "al-Akharabat" but your initial landing (the red dot) is up in green unclaimed territory, rather than the blue of al-Akharabat proper.

So at this point we've got lots of people in various places and only the most general of ideas where everyone actually is.

[Sea Skimmer]

Indeed, but we seem to be all over the place. All this time we're basically talking "al-Akharabat" but your initial landing (the red dot) is up in green unclaimed territory, rather than the blue of al-Akharabat proper.

So at this point we've got lots of people in various places and only the most general of ideas where everyone actually is.

Umm, my very initial landing on the continent ff on the right was never supposed to be in al-Akharabat, it was in my own former abandon colony so I could build a modern airfield and secure my strategic flank. Japanistani intervention in al-Akharabat was literally not even on the radar until Cassinia jumped in first, at which point Japanistan responded by seizing Al Sukin and two minor flanking fishing ports, and then another port plus ajoining fishing port further south . I just realized though the additional Shepistani landing is not on my map, it should be a bit slightly south of the current southernmost marked Japanistani landings.

Also… I’ve had two more major convoys (normal supply runs are done by individual ships, big reinforcements and new landings come in convoys) at sea for a quite a while now, I’ll be announcing and marking the landing zones shortly.

[Steve]

This uses the pic Skimmer put up when he was showing everyone his secret convoy's indirect route to eastern Veleria.

El-Kalim was always meant to be in the southwestern corner. The black line by it represents the section that Astarias has occupied. Beo and I think Rogue established an airfield with REDHORSE units somewhere in the center of the country, it was never said where. And Coyote's first post for LZ Dog claimed it "6 kilometers north of al-Akharabat", which I've interpreted to mean 6KM off the northcoast since al-Akharabat has no actual northern frontier, it's all coast-line.

[Steve]

Also, Skimmer, I think Coyote was saying that those were the Zungatara that you said would "strike" in 96 hours. IOW, those ostensibly moving into Katangwa or Canissian-overseen territory. Unless, of course, Japanistan is imposing a double standard where it claims whatever it wants.

[Master_Baerne]

I recommend that the Duchess handle the distribution of PRSF resources; we've all got much too much of a vested interest. Unless some uninvolved nation felt like doing it?

I'm totally doing it myself.

In that case, thank you, Your Grace.

[MKSheppard]

Edited my post a few times to describe the hardening of Shepistani Airbases closest to the boarder and in the immediate districts....

[K. A. Pital]

What the hell.

I won't let that shit slide, Beowulf. Just after I refuse to directly annex them because I feel it's "unfair", and say that the SNC will handle their demilitarization, you jump in.

Sorry, but peace doesn't work that way either.

Of course, the PRSF now has little choice in the matter, and it's under Marina's control anyway, but I'll remember that. Oh I will.

P.S. PRSF vessels should be not heading to unsafe ports, Shep and Klavo seem to be okay for giving them a base of operations, so...

P.P.S. Shepistan's reaction is welcome.

[DarthShady]

The FUN strikes back, courtesy of Nod.

[MKSheppard]

P.P.S. Shepistan's reaction is welcome.

Shepistan would like to buy some fine anti-ship missiles that can be air launched from you Stas. Whats the heaviest/fastest one can be fired from a bomber?

[Zor]

Zoria's scientific expedition into Velaria has begun, foreign Biologists, Geologists and such are welcome.

Zor

[K. A. Pital]

Shepistan would like to buy some fine anti-ship missiles that can be air launched from you Stas. Whats the heaviest/fastest one can be fired from a bomber?

I'll make you an armory to choose from once I get to work

Basically the Kh-45 can be but the bomber has to be heavy. The AS-19 is currently probably beyond your bomber's weight capacitys...

Also, Shep, what would you ask for in exchange for a Naval base?

[Sea Skimmer]

Also, Skimmer, I think Coyote was saying that those were the Zungatara that you said would "strike" in 96 hours. IOW, those ostensibly moving into Katangwa or Canissian-overseen territory. Unless, of course, Japanistan is imposing a double standard where it claims whatever it wants.

I never acutally struck anyone though, I just made preperations. In any case a 5km error of navigation would happen absurdly easily with A-10s flying over the jungle with neither the aid of ground mapping radar nor GPS to guide them. The pilots wont have more then a map on a clipboard for navigiation.

As for LZ Dog I'm pretty sure that was 6km north of the capital city or somthing, not in the freaking ocean and certainly NOT outside the nations boarders.

[Steve]

As for LZ Dog I'm pretty sure that was 6km north of the capital city or somthing, not in the freaking ocean and certainly NOT outside the nations boarders.

LZ Dog
6 Km North of Republic of al-Akharabat

That was the header on the post where Coyote established the base. Though he could've met something else, I just assumed he misread the map. I guess he can clear it all up if he reads the thread soon.

[MKSheppard]

Also, Shep, what would you ask for in exchange for a Naval base?

Rights to base a bomber wing somewhere. That's about it.

[DarthShady]

Zoria's scientific expedition into Velaria has begun, foreign Biologists, Geologists and such are welcome.

Zor

The USSR would be interested in sending a few of it's scientists to participate in the expedition.

[Karmic Knight]

Zoria's scientific expedition into Velaria has begun, foreign Biologists, Geologists and such are welcome.

Zor

The Vinish Wilderness Survey would like to send a veteran crew from the Settlement to join the Zorian expedition.