Yeah, between this and the "faked soldier's funeral to promote the GOP" stunt I'm gonna go take a few asprin and go lay down.Georgia Republican Rep. Lynn Westmoreland used the racially-tinged term "uppity" to describe Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama Thursday.
Westmoreland was discussing vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin's speech with reporters outside the House chamber and was asked to compare her with Michelle Obama.
"Just from what little I’ve seen of her and Mr. Obama, Sen. Obama, they're a member of an elitist-class individual that thinks that they're uppity," Westmoreland said.
Asked to clarify that he used the word “uppity,” Westmoreland said, “Uppity, yeah.”
Other Democrats have charged that the Republican campaign to paint the Illinois senator as an “elitist” is racially charged, and accused them of using code words for “uppity” without using the word itself.
In August, Rep. Shelley Berkley (D-Nev.) told reporters, “When I hear the word ‘elitist’ linked with Barack Obama, to me, that is a code word for 'uppity.' I find it extremely offensive and John McCain should know better.”
Political consultant David Gergen, who has worked in both Republican and Democratic White Houses, said on ABC’s "This Week" that “As a native of the south, I can tell you, when you see this Charlton Heston ad, 'The One,' that's code for, 'He's uppity, he ought to stay in his place.' Everybody gets that who is from a Southern background.”
The Obama campaign, asked about the quote, did not note any racial context.
“Sounds like Rep. Westmoreland should be careful throwing stones from his candidate's eight glass houses,” said Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor.
Campaigning against the first black major-party nominee has already created some problems for Republicans.
Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) said that Obama's middle name – Hussein – is relevant to the public discourse surrounding his candidacy, saying in March that if Obama were elected, "Then the radical Islamists, the al Qaeda, the radical Islamists and their supporters, will be dancing in the streets in greater numbers than they did on Sept. 11 because they will declare victory in this War on Terror."
At an April 12 event in his district, Kentucky Rep. Geoff Davis (R) said of Obama: “I’m going to tell you something: That boy’s finger does not need to be on the button. He could not make a decision in that simulation that related to a nuclear threat to this country.”
Davis sent a letter of apology to Obama in which he described his remark as a “poor choice of words.”
Westmoreland originally supported former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney for the Republican presidential nomination. He now supports McCain, but missed an August fundraiser for the nominee because he was vacationing with his family.
Westmoreland calls Obama ‘uppity'
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Westmoreland calls Obama ‘uppity'
Well, at least they are being overt now
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Re: Westmoreland calls Obama ‘uppity'
Huh, what simulation?Ender wrote:
At an April 12 event in his district, Kentucky Rep. Geoff Davis (R) said of Obama: “I’m going to tell you something: That boy’s finger does not need to be on the button. He could not make a decision in that simulation that related to a nuclear threat to this country.”
Also, yeah JFK was a fucking loser for not pushing the button. What a pussy.
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Re: Westmoreland calls Obama ‘uppity'
It's not going to happen, but I'd love to see the Obama campaign run an ad showing these words, on screen, with no music, just big letters on a blank background, attributed to those who spoke them. Then have Obama come on screen and say something like.Ender wrote:Campaigning against the first black major-party nominee has already created some problems for Republicans.
Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) said that Obama's middle name – Hussein – is relevant to the public discourse surrounding his candidacy, saying in March that if Obama were elected, "Then the radical Islamists, the al Qaeda, the radical Islamists and their supporters, will be dancing in the streets in greater numbers than they did on Sept. 11 because they will declare victory in this War on Terror."
At an April 12 event in his district, Kentucky Rep. Geoff Davis (R) said of Obama: “I’m going to tell you something: That boy’s finger does not need to be on the button. He could not make a decision in that simulation that related to a nuclear threat to this country.”
Davis sent a letter of apology to Obama in which he described his remark as a “poor choice of words.”
"This is what we are running against. These words, these attitudes. These bigotries. Join us and let's change the tone. Let's change our country for the better. Let's show the world how much we can change."

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Quick addition.
No matter how much I try, in my "...that boy's finger..." is automatically read in a long southern drawl with an emphasis on "boy".
No matter how much I try, in my "...that boy's finger..." is automatically read in a long southern drawl with an emphasis on "boy".
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Just wait. I have no doubt at all that one of McCain's big endorsers or supporters is going to be caught on tape having recently said something like this.General Zod wrote:Wow. . . .it's like they were restraining themselves from throwing in the word "nigger". The racist dogwhistle couldn't be more blatant if they were using a foghorn.

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My God they REALLY REALLY think they can say and do whatever they want and get away with it.
Eight years and still I can be surprised by these antics. Still I'm hoping this is desperation I am seeing with all the whistles being blown to try and get out the racist vote against Obama.
Eight years and still I can be surprised by these antics. Still I'm hoping this is desperation I am seeing with all the whistles being blown to try and get out the racist vote against Obama.
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Sure. Will they suffer fallout for it? Their demographic has already been scaled back largely into territory occupied exclusively by people who think like them or consider them less of a threat than the Democrats, and it doesn't help that the media will probably not pick it up for more than a blurb anyways.FSTargetDrone wrote:Just wait. I have no doubt at all that one of McCain's big endorsers or supporters is going to be caught on tape having recently said something like this.General Zod wrote:Wow. . . .it's like they were restraining themselves from throwing in the word "nigger". The racist dogwhistle couldn't be more blatant if they were using a foghorn.
I'm damn near through hoping for likely PR gaffes like this from the GOP, just because they always amount to nothing.
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The word "boy" itself, used to indicate a black man, is itself pretty racially charged. In one sense it can be seen as emphasizing Obama's youth and purported inexperience, but in another sense it's a racist dog whistle.Pulp Hero wrote:No matter how much I try, in my "...that boy's finger..." is automatically read in a long southern drawl with an emphasis on "boy".

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Even if we discount the possibility of it being racially-tinged, Obama is a grown man and not a boy by any stretch, especially compared to Davis who is only 49 years old. Hardly decades ahead of Obama.Pablo Sanchez wrote:The word "boy" itself, used to indicate a black man, is itself pretty racially charged. In one sense it can be seen as emphasizing Obama's youth and purported inexperience, but in another sense it's a racist dog whistle.
You're right, everyone who's grown up in the US knows exactly what it means when a white guy calls a black man "boy."

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Once the words "uppity" and "boy" appear, what you have isn't a dog whistle. It's a regular person whistle. I don't think these were two Republicans trying to send coded messages to the base, I think these were two racists who slipped up. I'll bet you a hundred dollars someone like them is going to let an n-bomb fly before November.General Zod wrote:Wow. . . .it's like they were restraining themselves from throwing in the word "nigger". The racist dogwhistle couldn't be more blatant if they were using a foghorn.
As for Steve King, he's just a worthless piece of shit who'll probably get reelected by 30 points.

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True. But it's easy enough to see this being spun this as being non-racist for Republitard sympathizers, or some innocent "slip of the tongue" that they didn't perceive to be racist at the time they said it. It's not as if this will land them in nearly the same degree of hot water that using the N word would.RedImperator wrote: Once the words "uppity" and "boy" appear, what you have isn't a dog whistle. It's a regular person whistle. I don't think these were two Republicans trying to send coded messages to the base, I think these were two racists who slipped up. I'll bet you a hundred dollars someone like them is going to let an n-bomb fly before November.
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either that or they will try and blame it on the opposition for trying to play the race card....Masami von Weizegger wrote:They can, really. This won't be big news or anything. By tomorrow this may as well never have happened.Invictus ChiKen wrote:My God they REALLY REALLY think they can say and do whatever they want and get away with it.

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Republitard sympathizers aren't going to vote for Obama or any other Democrat anyway, so I'm beyond caring what they think. Beyond that, you'd have to be a credulous idiot to believe when a southerner calls a black man uppity, he's not being racist. The world, sadly, is full of credulous idiots, but for everyone else, this is impossible to spin.General Zod wrote:True. But it's easy enough to see this being spun this as being non-racist for Republitard sympathizers, or some innocent "slip of the tongue" that they didn't perceive to be racist at the time they said it.RedImperator wrote: Once the words "uppity" and "boy" appear, what you have isn't a dog whistle. It's a regular person whistle. I don't think these were two Republicans trying to send coded messages to the base, I think these were two racists who slipped up. I'll bet you a hundred dollars someone like them is going to let an n-bomb fly before November.
Well, no, because the N word is taboo in a way "uppity" and "boy" aren't; it would be like a politician saying "fuck" in public fifty years ago. But it's coming; if I believed in God, I'd pray it was coming from John McCain, in the last debate, but I'll settle for any moron with an "R" after his name who choses to reveal his true colors in an election year.It's not as if this will land them in nearly the same degree of hot water that using the N word would.

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Which is why you're more likely to see the Obama team fall over themselves to excuse it as well, almost as fast as the Republicans should, rather than decry it. They are scared to death of being accused of playing the race card and any other 'negative tactics'.The Yosemite Bear wrote:either that or they will try and blame it on the opposition for trying to play the race card....
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No shit, but it's "Interesting" to see the play book come out, and these ham handed tactics come into play so badly. no self respecting desciple of Niccolo Machevelli can look at american politics since reagan and not wince at how badly they have been handled.Masami von Weizegger wrote:Which is why you're more likely to see the Obama team fall over themselves to excuse it as well, almost as fast as the Republicans should, rather than decry it. They are scared to death of being accused of playing the race card and any other 'negative tactics'.The Yosemite Bear wrote:either that or they will try and blame it on the opposition for trying to play the race card....
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though from the title I was supprised and somehow thinking that the Westmoreland who was the appologist for Vietnam was somehow still around and causing trouble.

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Hmm... Insane babble.Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) said that Obama's middle name – Hussein – is relevant to the public discourse surrounding his candidacy, saying in March that if Obama were elected, "Then the radical Islamists, the al Qaeda, the radical Islamists and their supporters, will be dancing in the streets in greater numbers than they did on Sept. 11 because they will declare victory in this War on Terror."
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So, uh, does that mean this whole charade will be over then? All we have to do is elect a black guy and they pack up? Sweet deal.Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) said that Obama's middle name – Hussein – is relevant to the public discourse surrounding his candidacy, saying in March that if Obama were elected, "Then the radical Islamists, the al Qaeda, the radical Islamists and their supporters, will be dancing in the streets in greater numbers than they did on Sept. 11 because they will declare victory in this War on Terror."

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You learn something new every day. Before this election cycle, I was unaware of the racial overtones of the word uppity in American discourse. And now that I have been aware of it for some time, it's just amazing how freely they throw it around.
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