Shrubby's state of the union address...

[Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi]

I notice America's dwindling civil rights didn't touch his mind at all.

I really don't think it touches any of the politicans' minds. The Deomcrats would rather make up stuff to use against Bush in 2004, while there's something happening before their eyes which would be perfect to use: The gradual loss of civil rights.

[IRG CommandoJoe]

Maybe they want to exploit it too. Who knows...

[LordChaos]

a2. wants to adjust the ratio of taxes paid on investment income vs real work such that people who don't work for a living--i.e. the rich--pay less taxes.

something between 1/3 and 1/2 of americans who pay taxes own stocks. so how can this be a "for the rich" unless 1/3 to 1/2 of americans are rich?

[LordChaos]

A) The economy.

III - Wishes to increase the federal budget on a par with average American pay-check increases.
Well, doesn't the federal budget increase as pay increases? I mean, the more you make, the more that gets taken out in taxes. Moron.

the thing is, in recent decades the federal budget has increased faster then the average american household income has increased. aka - faster then pay increases.

II - Tougher abortion laws.
I know your nickname is Shrub, but you don't have a uterus. It's the woman's goddamned body, it should be the woman's goddamned choice. Moron.

since when does tougher abortion laws mean no abortions? It does not. for all you know, it may be more strignent regulations and nothing else, standardizing pollicies so that, for examp, you can't get an abortion anywere after say 7 months.

(fyi - I am firmly in the pro-choice camp, but even I see reason behind a well regulated set of laws on it).

[Stormbringer]

Maybe they want to exploit it too. Who knows...

Bingo. The only difference is for what they want to do once they've taken your rights away.

[Mr Bean]

since when does tougher abortion laws mean no abortions? It does not. for all you know, it may be more strignent regulations and nothing else, standardizing pollicies so that, for examp, you can't get an abortion anywere after say 7 months.

Indeed, Shurbby was quite plain on the point

Quote shurrby-Tougher Aborition Laws, Stop Late Term aboritions(Which have never been preformed in the US anyway)

[Illuminatus Primus]

wants to adjust the ratio of taxes paid on investment income vs real work such that people who don't work for a living--i.e. the rich--pay less taxes.

If you adjust taxes so only the lower tax brackets get more tax rates declined, it is blatent redistrubution of wealth. Bad enough that people think graduated income taxing is completely fair, this is Marxist bullshit.

The rich pay almost all the taxes, logically, and fairly, they should get at least an equal rate cut on it.

The only real improvement is that he should've eliminated the payroll tax.

b3. Is responding to siginificant lobbying from the medical business to reduce patient rights to sue for gross malpractice.

You're lower than stupid. Trial lawyers have been grossly abusing the American justice system for years, and in particular, massively expensive but ultimately fruitless travesties such as the Cigarette Company suits, whereas the gov't should've simply ordered them to make a settlement directly to medical funds for lung cancer research, and heavily tax cigarettes to suppress sales and help the gov't increase revenue for something that drains life--smart.

Do you have the slightest idea how bad it has gotten? Some doctors in the last couple years have lost half their income to insurance, and in some towns in the Northeast, there are strikes because honestly, the insurance rates are so high some doctors can no longer afford to practice.

Shut the fuck up with your self-righteous know-it-all bullshit. This is the same shit-faced bull you spewed on the Global Warming thread, generalizing everyone--including Americans who agreed with you, like myself. When I called up on it you made bullshit evasions saying (in essence) that if I wasn't overthrowing the Federal Government, you had the right to call me a fuckhead for some of their decisions.

I'm sure Mike would like to be called a fucktwat little shit for the crap the Quebecians pull in Canadian politics, eh?

You're a clueless bullshitter.

Ha! Do I have to list them all? I love the sweeping generalizations.

Yes, he appears to specialize in it. http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... ht=#276415

Scroll to the top and behold.

You're a fucking useless hypocrite.

*claps* Well said my dear.

Though I'd prefer the term knee-jerk clueless wannabe know-it-all generalizing dumbass.