SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread II

DarthShady · Post by **DarthShady** » 2008-09-16 12:31pm

I found it...on page FUCKING nine.

Goddamn it.

Link to page if anybody wants it.

EDIT:

And...it is useless to me, because the only ship I have that's on it is the Slava Class Cruiser.

Am I using it wrong?

Fingolfin_Noldor · Post by **Fingolfin_Noldor** » 2008-09-16 01:12pm

SiegeTank, is that a picture of a building in Singapore?

Siege · Post by **Siege** » 2008-09-16 01:21pm

Raj Ahten wrote:
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote: I would dare suggest you should ask your neighbours to help you cofund the bombers and place them under joint FTO control.
Good idea

I'll have to pass: the navy is eating enough of my cash right now and for a nation my size I'm running an absurdly ambitious rocketry program. No more money for bombers beyond my own F-111XL. Of course, we'll be more than happy to loan you the money, against an agreeable interest rate

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:SiegeTank, is that a picture of a building in Singapore?

I think so, yes. It fits with the overall art-deco theme of San Dorado's buildings, and La Palma is supposed to have an LA/Singaporean climate, so it fits

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phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2008-09-16 01:28pm

At the rate things are going, I'm going to be spending the smallest %GDP on defense in the game

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2008-09-16 01:39pm

I'm spending small change, too. I could go with 130 billion if I really wanted to...

FTO guys: You really think a couple dozen B-1Bs are gonna work as a deterrent force?

They'd have to get through hundreds of fighters and ungodly amounts of SAMs if you want to deter anybody you would actually want to.

Japanistan: You guys are overreacting. For Skimmer to invade, he'd have to get through:

- The Suez Canal (mines mines mines!)
- A huge fucking desert
- Byzantium (bosphorus straits, anybody?)

The logistics would be mind-bogglingy huge and complicated and open to attack. Skim's airforce is large, but the OC actually outdoes it numerically, and with more advanced aircraft to boot. The mediterrenean is small enough to be defended with coastal ASM batteries. Our main problem is air defence, and frankly: we don't need many S-400 missiles for that. We need to spam something cheaper, which can intercept Skimmer's aircraft, and most importantly, we need good C4I systems in place (costly!).

Really, if we're expecting to fight a defensive war, skimmer will have to go through byzantium or do a horribly bloody forced landing. And we can defend Byzantium's chokepoints with a lot of infantry backed up by masses of cheap artillery, moved by trucks and equipped with advanced ATGMs, radios, etc.

EDIT: And Shady, I know you're going to coup Sjenska

Master_Baerne · Post by **Master_Baerne** » 2008-09-16 01:44pm

Fingolfin, how about 2 billion of whatever currency we're using for the carrier?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2008-09-16 01:45pm

How does everyone like how the raid(s) are proceeding?

DarthShady · Post by **DarthShady** » 2008-09-16 01:47pm

PeZook wrote:EDIT: And Shady, I know you're going to coup Sjenska Razz

Shhhh...it's a secret.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2008-09-16 01:52pm

MKSheppard wrote:How does everyone like how the raid(s) are proceeding?

I think you need to give Lonestar a chance to respond.

Lonestar · Post by **Lonestar** » 2008-09-16 02:13pm

Beowulf wrote:
MKSheppard wrote:How does everyone like how the raid(s) are proceeding?
I think you need to give Lonestar a chance to respond.

And I got class tonight too!

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2008-09-16 02:13pm

Aw

EDIT: Right now, 315 AS-3s are en route towards various targets in the Fucklands, the B-56Gs carrying them having launched at 300 nm.

Unfortunately, the AS-6s the PB-56s are carrying only have a range of 130 nm; meaning they have to close much closer to the fucklands and the OD CVBG....

Lonestar · Post by **Lonestar** » 2008-09-16 02:25pm

MKSheppard wrote:Aw

EDIT: Right now, 315 AS-3s are en route towards various targets in the Fucklands, the B-56Gs carrying them having launched at 300 nm.

Unfortunately, the AS-6s the PB-56s are carrying only have a range of 130 nm; meaning they have to close much closer to the fucklands and the OD CVBG....

Fortunately, since none of those missiles carry nukes, the CSGs can actually group togather much closer and put up a wall of lead like no other.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2008-09-16 02:27pm

Lonestar wrote:Fortunately, since none of those missiles carry nukes, the CSGs can actually group togather much closer and put up a wall of lead like no other.

I wouldn't be so sanguine. I've wargamed this out multiple times in harpoon and well.....

Raj Ahten · Post by **Raj Ahten** » 2008-09-16 02:58pm

PeZook wrote:
FTO guys: You really think a couple dozen B-1Bs are gonna work as a deterrent force?

Well if we ever get strategic weapons, we need some way to deliver them. Right now ballistic missiles aren't really there yet and the nuclear weapons put on a missile would have to be more complicated than if I just build gravity bombs. I'd rather have a few dozen strategic bombers which can delivery the types of nuclear devices I'd have the most of (Indhopal neither confirms nor denies having a nuclear program.) as well as do something useful like spam out missiles at a fleet coming in at Frequesue. Ballistic missiles just sit around being expensive.

DarthShady · Post by **DarthShady** » 2008-09-16 03:03pm

(Indhopal neither confirms nor denies having a nuclear program.)

I thought that we agreed that the secret stuff would be announced in the OOC thread at least, to stop the "OMG I has nukes from Q and will blast you now" type of situations.

Czechmate · Post by **Czechmate** » 2008-09-16 03:05pm

PeZook wrote:FTO guys: You really think a couple dozen B-1Bs are gonna work as a deterrent force?

I have two dozen B-1Cs. By myself. Alone. The FTO really is a paper tiger if that's the best it can muster.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2008-09-16 03:08pm

If it's not in the game thread, it doesn't happen.

Raj Ahten · Post by **Raj Ahten** » 2008-09-16 03:15pm

DarthShady wrote:
(Indhopal neither confirms nor denies having a nuclear program.)
I thought that we agreed that the secret stuff would be announced in the OOC thread at least, to stop the "OMG I has nukes from Q and will blast you now" type of situations.

I've had posts saying I've been working on a nuclear program since nearly the bigginning of the game. I've also stockpiled some chemical and biological agents as it is believed that plenty of others are as ell, so I can't be left behind.

I put in the neither confirm nor deny part because Indhopal's government will neither confirm nor deny the existance of the nuclear program in game. It's a totally secret program.

Edit: Nuclear program first announced on page #13 of the story thread. It certainly felt like the game had just started at the time

. I think I've only ever made one other post on the program.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2008-09-16 03:24pm

Raj Ahten wrote:
DarthShady wrote:
(Indhopal neither confirms nor denies having a nuclear program.)
I thought that we agreed that the secret stuff would be announced in the OOC thread at least, to stop the "OMG I has nukes from Q and will blast you now" type of situations.
I've had posts saying I've been working on a nuclear program since nearly the bigginning of the game. I've also stockpiled some chemical and biological agents as it is believed that plenty of others are as ell, so I can't be left behind.

I put in the neither confirm nor deny part because Indhopal's government will neither confirm nor deny the existance of the nuclear program in game. It's a totally secret program.

Just remember that if you ever want those nukes in game you're going to have to PM me with the details of the programme and then let me decide when you actually succeed in a test-shot.

Raj Ahten · Post by **Raj Ahten** » 2008-09-16 03:34pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Raj Ahten wrote:
DarthShady wrote: I thought that we agreed that the secret stuff would be announced in the OOC thread at least, to stop the "OMG I has nukes from Q and will blast you now" type of situations.
I've had posts saying I've been working on a nuclear program since nearly the bigginning of the game. I've also stockpiled some chemical and biological agents as it is believed that plenty of others are as ell, so I can't be left behind.

I put in the neither confirm nor deny part because Indhopal's government will neither confirm nor deny the existance of the nuclear program in game. It's a totally secret program.

Just remember that if you ever want those nukes in game you're going to have to PM me with the details of the programme and then let me decide when you actually succeed in a test-shot.

Went ahead and sent you the details just now then. (Check your PM's)

Post by **Coyote** » 2008-09-16 03:40pm

Actually, I have mentioned that Canissian Generals are willing to use chemical and biological warfare, but are averse to nukes. However, I have not posted any stockpiles. Since I have not done that, I'll just say that I have, like, the base agents and reactants/ingredients available, but have not actually started to build or mix anything into usable munitions.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2008-09-16 03:53pm

I'd be a hell of a lot more scared of germs than nukes. With the present setup the only way that civilization on Nova Terra can end is through the use of biological weapons.

Post by **Coyote** » 2008-09-16 03:57pm

I'll PM ya the details....

Karmic Knight · Post by **Karmic Knight** » 2008-09-16 04:03pm

Raj, are you surplussing out those Mirage F-1s?

Lonestar · Post by **Lonestar** » 2008-09-16 04:05pm

MKSheppard wrote:
I wouldn't be so sanguine. I've wargamed this out multiple times in harpoon and well.....

I'm actually fairly certain you left out the Tian Xia CSG floating around the South Sea in your wargaming.