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Yes, the economic troubles ARE that serious (WSJ Economist)

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Worst Crisis Since '30s, With No End Yet in Sight
by Jon Hilsenrath, Serena Ng and Damian Paletta
Wednesday, September 17, 2008
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The financial crisis that began 13 months ago has entered a new, far more serious phase.

Lingering hopes that the damage could be contained to a handful of financial institutions that made bad bets on mortgages have evaporated. New fault lines are emerging beyond the original problem -- troubled subprime mortgages -- in areas like credit-default swaps, the credit insurance contracts sold by American International Group Inc. and others firms. There's also a growing sense of wariness about the health of trading partners.

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The consequences for companies and chief executives who tarry -- hoping for better times in which to raise capital, sell assets or acknowledge losses -- are now clear and brutal, as falling share prices and fearful lenders send troubled companies into ever-deeper holes. This weekend, such a realization led John Thain to sell the century-old Merrill Lynch & Co. to Bank of America Corp. Each episode seems to bring intervention by the government that is more extensive and expensive than the previous one, and carries greater risk of unintended consequences.

Expectations for a quick end to the crisis are fading fast. "I think it's going to last a lot longer than perhaps we would have anticipated," Anne Mulcahy, chief executive of Xerox Corp., said Wednesday.

"This has been the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. There is no question about it," said Mark Gertler, a New York University economist who worked with fellow academic Ben Bernanke, now the Federal Reserve chairman, to explain how financial turmoil can infect the overall economy. "But at the same time we have the policy mechanisms in place fighting it, which is something we didn't have during the Great Depression."

Spreading Disease

The U.S. financial system resembles a patient in intensive care. The body is trying to fight off a disease that is spreading, and as it does so, the body convulses, settles for a time and then convulses again. The illness seems to be overwhelming the self-healing tendencies of markets. The doctors in charge are resorting to ever-more invasive treatment, and are now experimenting with remedies that have never before been applied. Fed Chairman Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, walking into a hastily arranged meeting with congressional leaders Tuesday night to brief them on the government's unprecedented rescue of AIG, looked like exhausted surgeons delivering grim news to the family.

Fed and Treasury officials have identified the disease. It's called deleveraging, or the unwinding of debt. During the credit boom, financial institutions and American households took on too much debt. Between 2002 and 2006, household borrowing grew at an average annual rate of 11%, far outpacing overall economic growth. Borrowing by financial institutions grew by a 10% annualized rate. Now many of those borrowers can't pay back the loans, a problem that is exacerbated by the collapse in housing prices. They need to reduce their dependence on borrowed money, a painful and drawn-out process that can choke off credit and economic growth.

At least three things need to happen to bring the deleveraging process to an end, and they're hard to do at once. Financial institutions and others need to fess up to their mistakes by selling or writing down the value of distressed assets they bought with borrowed money. They need to pay off debt. Finally, they need to rebuild their capital cushions, which have been eroded by losses on those distressed assets.

But many of the distressed assets are hard to value and there are few if any buyers. Deleveraging also feeds on itself in a way that can create a downward spiral: Trying to sell assets pushes down the assets' prices, which makes them harder to sell and leads firms to try to sell more assets. That, in turn, suppresses these firms' share prices and makes it harder for them to sell new shares to raise capital. Mr. Bernanke, as an academic, dubbed this self-feeding loop a "financial accelerator."

"Many of the CEO types weren't willing...to take these losses, and say, 'I accept the fact that I'm selling these way below fundamental value,'" says Anil Kashyap, a University of Chicago Business School economics professor. "The ones that had the biggest exposure, they've all died."

Borrowing Slowdown

Deleveraging started with securities tied to subprime mortgages, where defaults started rising rapidly in 2006. But the deleveraging process has now spread well beyond, to commercial real estate and auto loans to the short-term commitments on which investment banks rely to fund themselves. In the first quarter, financial-sector borrowing slowed to a 5.1% growth rate, about half of the average from 2002 to 2007. Household borrowing has slowed even more, to a 3.5% pace.

Goldman Sachs Group Inc. economist Jan Hatzius estimates that in the past year, financial institutions around the world have already written down $408 billion worth of assets and raised $367 billion worth of capital.

But that doesn't appear to be enough. Every time financial firms and investors suggest that they've written assets down enough and raised enough new capital, a new wave of selling triggers a reevaluation, propelling the crisis into new territory. Residential mortgage losses alone could hit $636 billion by 2012, Goldman estimates, triggering widespread retrenchment in bank lending. That could shave 1.8 percentage points a year off economic growth in 2008 and 2009 -- the equivalent of $250 billion in lost goods and services each year.

"This is a deleveraging like nothing we've ever seen before," said Robert Glauber, now a professor of Harvard's government and law schools who came to the Washington in 1989 to help organize the savings and loan cleanup of the early 1990s. "The S&L losses to the government were small compared to this."

Hedge funds could be among the next problem areas. Many rely on borrowed money to amplify their returns. With banks under pressure, many hedge funds are less able to borrow this money now, pressuring returns. Meanwhile, there are growing indications that fewer investors are shifting into hedge funds while others are pulling out. Fund investors are dealing with their own problems: Many have taken out loans to make their investments and are finding it more difficult now to borrow.

That all makes it likely that more hedge funds will shutter in the months ahead, forcing them to sell their investments, further weighing on the market.

History of Trauma

Debt-driven financial traumas have a long history, from the Great Depression to the S&L crisis to the Asian financial crisis of the late 1990s. Neither economists nor policymakers has easy solutions. Cutting interest rates and writing stimulus checks to families can help -- and may have prevented or delayed a deep recession. But, at least in this instance, they don't suffice.

In such circumstances, governments almost invariably experiment with solutions with varying degrees of success. Franklin Delano Roosevelt unleashed an alphabet soup of new agencies and a host of new regulations in the aftermath of the market crash of 1929. In the 1990s, Japan embarked on a decade of often-wasteful government spending to counter the aftereffects of a bursting bubble. President George H.W. Bush and Congress created the Resolution Trust Corp. to take and sell the assets of failed thrifts. Hong Kong's free-market government went on a massive stock-buying spree in 1998, buying up shares of every company listed in the benchmark Hang Seng index. It ended up packaging them into an exchange-traded fund and making money.

Today, Mr. Bernanke is taking out his playbook, said NYU economist Mr. Gertler, "and rewriting it as we go."

Merrill Lynch & Co.'s emergency sale to Bank of America Corp. last weekend was an example of the perniciousness and unpredictability of deleveraging. In the past year, Merrill has hired a new chief executive, written off $41.4 billion in assets and raised $21 billion in equity capital.

But Merrill couldn't keep up. The more it raised, the more it was forced to write off. When Merrill CEO John Thain attended a meeting with the New York Fed and other Wall Street executives last week, he saw that Merrill was the next most vulnerable brokerage firm. "We watched Bear and Lehman. We knew we could be next," said one Merrill executive. Fearful that its lenders would shut the firm off, he sold to Bank of America.

This crisis is complicated by innovative financial instruments that Wall Street created and distributed. They're making it harder for officials and Wall Street executives to know where the next set of risks is hiding and also contributing to the crisis's spreading impact.

Swaps Game

The latest trouble spot is an area called credit-default swaps, which are private contracts that let firms trade bets on whether a borrower is going to default. When a default occurs, one party pays off the other. The value of the swaps rise and fall as market reassesses the risk that a company won't be able to honor its obligations. Firms use these instruments both as insurance -- to hedge their exposures to risk -- and to wager on the health of other companies. There are now credit-default swaps on more than $62 trillion in debt, up from about $144 billion a decade ago.

One of the big new players in the swaps game was AIG, the world's largest insurer and a major seller of credit-default swaps to financial institutions and companies. When the credit markets were booming, many firms bought these instruments from AIG, believing the insurance giant's strong credit ratings and large balance sheet could provide a shield against bond and loan defaults. AIG believed the risk of default was low on many securities it insured.

As of June 30, an AIG unit had written credit-default swaps on more than $446 billion in credit assets, including mortgage securities, corporate loans and complex structured products. Last year, when rising subprime-mortgage delinquencies damaged the value of many securities AIG had insured, the firm was forced to book large write-downs on its derivative positions. That spooked investors, who reacted by dumping its shares, making it harder for AIG to raise the capital it increasingly needed.

Credit default swaps "didn't cause the problem, but they certainly exacerbated the financial crisis," says Leslie Rahl, president of Capital Market Risk Advisors, a consulting firm in New York. The sheer volumes of outstanding CDS contracts -- and the fact that they trade directly between institutions, without centralized clearing -- intertwined the fates of many large banks and brokerages.

Few financial crises have been sorted out in modern times without massive government intervention. Increasingly, officials are coming to the conclusion that even more might be needed. A big problem: The Fed can and has provided short-term money to sound, but struggling, institutions that are out of favor. It can, and has, reduced the interest rates it influences to attempt to reduce borrowing costs through the economy and encourage investment and spending.

But it is ill-equipped to provide the capital that financial institutions now desperately need to shore up their finances and expand lending.

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Resolution Trust Scenario

In normal times, capital-starved companies usually can raise money on their own. In the current crisis, a number of big Wall Street firms, including Citigroup, have turned to sovereign wealth funds, the government-controlled pools of money.

But both on Wall Street and in Washington, there is increasing expectation that U.S. taxpayers will either take the bad assets off the hands of financial institutions so they can raise capital, or put taxpayer capital into the companies, as the Treasury has agreed to do with mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

One proposal was raised by Barney Frank, the Massachusetts Democrat who chairs the House Financial Services Committee. Rep. Frank is looking at whether to create an analog to the Resolution Trust Corp., which took assets from failed banks and thrifts and found buyers over several years.

"When you have a big loss in the marketplace, there are only three people that can take the loss -- the bondholders, the shareholders and the government," said William Seidman, who led the RTC from 1989 to 1991. "That's the dance we're seeing right now. Are we going to shove this loss into the hands of the taxpayers?"

The RTC seemed controversial and ambitious at the time. Any analog today would be even more complex. The RTC dispensed mostly of commercial real estate. Today's troubled assets are complex debt securities -- many of which include pieces of other instruments, which in turn include pieces of others, many steps removed from the actual mortgages or consumer loans on which they are based. Unraveling these strands will be tedious and getting at the underlying collateral, difficult.

In the early stages of this crisis, regulators saw that their rules didn't fit the rapidly changing financial system they were asked to oversee. Investment banks, at the core of the crisis, weren't as closely monitored by the Securities and Exchange Commission as commercial banks were by their regulators.

The government has a system to close failed banks, created after the Great Depression in part to avoid sudden runs by depositors. Now, runs happen in spheres regulators may not fully understand, such as the repurchase agreement, or repo, market, in which investment banks fund their day-to-day operations. And regulators have no process for handling the failure of an investment bank like Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. Insurers like AIG aren't even federally regulated.

Regulators have all but promised that more banks will fail in the coming months. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. is drawing up a plan to raise the premiums it charges banks so that it can rebuild the fund it uses to back deposits. Examiners are tightening their leash on banks across the country.

Pleasant Mystery

One pleasant mystery is why the crisis hasn't hit the economy harder -- at least so far. "This financial crisis hasn't yet translated into fewer...companies starting up, less research and development, less marketing," Ivan Seidenberg, chief executive of Verizon Communications, said Wednesday. "We haven't seen that yet. I'm sure every company is keeping their eyes on it."

At 6.1%, the unemployment rate remains well below the peak of 7.8% in 1992, amid the S&L crisis.

In part, that's because government has reacted aggressively. The Fed's classic mistake that led to the Great Depression was that it tightened monetary policy when it should have eased. Mr. Bernanke didn't repeat that error. And Congress moved more swiftly to approve fiscal stimulus than most Washington veterans thought possible.

In part, the broader economy has held mostly steady because exports have been so strong at just the right moment, a reminder of the global economy's importance to the U.S. And in part, it's because the U.S. economy is demonstrating impressive resilience, as information technology allows executives to react more quickly to emerging problems and -- to the discomfort of workers -- companies are quicker to adjust wages, hiring and work hours when the economy softens.

But the risk remains that Wall Street's woes will spread to Main Street, as credit tightens for consumers and business. Already, U.S. auto makers have been forced to tighten the terms on their leasing programs, or abandon writing leases themselves altogether, because of problems in their finance units. Goldman Sachs economists' optimistic scenario is a couple years of mild recession or painfully slow economy growth.

Aaron Lucchetti, Mark Whitehouse, Gregory Zuckerman and Sudeep Reddy contributed to this article.

Write to Jon Hilsenrath at jon.hilsenrath@wsj.com, Serena Ng at serena.ng@wsj.com and Damian Paletta at damian.paletta@wsj.com

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Ah yes, economists have finally acknowledge about the possibility of a 2nd great depression.


And damn....is it too much to ask, for me to actually get a university degree before shit hits the fan?
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If I were you I'd hurry up and get that degree. Me I'm just hoping for a job and an apartment before things hit.
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Invictus ChiKen wrote:If I were you I'd hurry up and get that degree. Me I'm just hoping for a job and an apartment before things hit.
I'm still in polytechnic, which is a vocational school. And I need that diploma to get into university, which is going to take two more years.

After the two years, I have to go for national service which is another 2 years.

And given that most course in university takes 3 years, that means have to wait almost seven years before I get my degree... :cry: :cry:
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Ah yes, economists have finally acknowledge about the possibility of a 2nd great depression.
The funny part is that many critics of the current US banking system predicted this years ago. Now it starts to appear that for the US there are only two ways out: deflation or hyperinflation. Pick your poison. Both are usually quite devastating.
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But the central banks injected another few hundred billion in liquidity today! Hm, too bad it's a solvency/confidence issue.
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Is the Economist considered a conservative paper? Just a side question? Most of the articles they write strike me as conservative, despite being from Europe.
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In relation to the US system, centre-right.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:In relation to the US system, centre-right.
Over the last 5 years, they've been markedly left on many social systems. They've also consistently talked about the housing bubble since 2003. I haven't seen this weeks issue yet, but over the last few weeks, their editorial slant has mostly shifted to "do whatever it takes to contain the crises and fuck the glorious free market."
On Politics, they're left, and have championed Kerry in 2004.
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Ghetto edit: the article isn't from the Economist, seeing as how I can't find it in the system, but according to the link itself and the emails of the authors, from the Wall Street Journal. :!:
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Ace Pace wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:In relation to the US system, centre-right.
Over the last 5 years, they've been markedly left on many social systems. They've also consistently talked about the housing bubble since 2003. I haven't seen this weeks issue yet, but over the last few weeks, their editorial slant has mostly shifted to "do whatever it takes to contain the crises and fuck the glorious free market."
On Politics, they're left, and have championed Kerry in 2004.
Well, with respect to the Russians, they turned right.

But occasionally, I find them occasionally saying disdainful things about the social welfare system, which yes, make them libertarian in many ways.
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Ace Pace wrote:Ghetto edit: the article isn't from the Economist, seeing as how I can't find it in the system, but according to the link itself and the emails of the authors, from the Wall Street Journal. :!:
Oops.. Could the Mod then change the title? It's bloody wrong.
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Ace Pace wrote:Ghetto edit: the article isn't from the Economist, seeing as how I can't find it in the system, but according to the link itself and the emails of the authors, from the Wall Street Journal. :!:
Ray apparently intended to mean that the article had a quote by an economist, not that it was from The Economist.
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Title amended.

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phongn wrote:
Ace Pace wrote:Ghetto edit: the article isn't from the Economist, seeing as how I can't find it in the system, but according to the link itself and the emails of the authors, from the Wall Street Journal. :!:
Ray apparently intended to mean that the article had a quote by an economist, not that it was from The Economist.
I never said that it was from the Economist in the first place.

I'm simply saying more and more economist are finally starting to gain influence in pointing out the current issues, as compared to ignoring it.


Sigh, even among scholars themselves, there is different schools of though...someone the public don't understand this fact....
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ray245 wrote:I never said that it was from the Economist in the first place.

I'm simply saying more and more economist are finally starting to gain influence in pointing out the current issues, as compared to ignoring it.


Sigh, even among scholars themselves, there is different schools of though...someone the public don't understand this fact....
You need to pay more goddamn attention to how you formulate what you want to say then. A few months ago you were such a goddamn moron that it was no use reading any of your posts because they were so incoherent nothing in them made any sense. These days they actually do make sense much more often, but most of the time they could still use a lot better formulation so that the reader doesn't need to spend half the time wondering.

The original title of this thread was a perfect example: It gave the implicit impression that the source was The Economist because it is such a high profile publication that it is known by its name worldwide.
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The amount of money being pumped into the system is just bewildering. I can't even begin to comprehend the scale of this problem.

So, what is the tripping point when the finance meltdown starts to be felt in other industries? Which industries could be the first to be hit?
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What makes you think there hasn't already been an effect?
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Broomstick wrote:What makes you think there hasn't already been an effect?
I'm talking more from the recent fallout - obviously other industries have been hit by steadily unfolding crisis, but what I'm wondering is who is going to feel the effects of what just went down this week first.
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Here is a quick and dirty back of the envelope estimate based on known data for Finland, which Surlethe scaled for the US. You've spent 900 billion already and it's only been going on since Bear Sterns, so not long at all.

We'll see just how far this thing follows our parallels.
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ray245 wrote:I never said that it was from the Economist in the first place.
When you put a tagline like that on a thread title, it often implies a source. You may not be familiar with said publication, but The Economist is one the most-read (and respected) news magazines in the English-speaking world. We're just trying to tell you so you don't make the same mistake in the future.
I'm simply saying more and more economist are finally starting to gain influence in pointing out the current issues, as compared to ignoring it.
Was it necessary? Most threads in this forum that reuse an article title do not say "physicist" or "economist," and the relevant portion was very small.
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Nevermind - should have hit delete instead of post.
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Instead of starting a new thread I thought I'd just add this on to an existing one of relative similarity...

I only have a smattering of an understanding regarding the economy of the United States, and from what I've gathered, even experts admit that they probably know less about it the more educated they get. It's an extremely complex issue. I'd be curious as to how anyone here would evaluate this article. Is there any good points or are they way off base?

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Obama may break bent economy
By Dick Morris and Eileen McGann
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - Added 23h ago

Whatever is left of the economy after the current round of crisis interventions by the Fed could go down the drain if Barack Obama is elected and carries out his plans for sharp increases in taxation. Even if Obama does not understand the linkage, most Americans do and will turn sharply against Obama’s tax plans if John McCain hammers away at the risk they pose for us all.

During the Great Depression, Congress raised taxes sharply in the Revenue Act of 1932. The top rate went from 25 percent to 63 percent. As a result, the real Gross Domestic Product dropped by 13.3 percent and unemployment rose from 15.9 percent to 23.6 percent.

In 1990, the first President Bush famously broke his “read my lips, no new taxes” pledge of 1988 and raised the federal gasoline tax and federal excise taxes, and imposed a 10-percent surtax on the top income bracket, raising its taxes to 31 percent. The recession that followed in 1991-1992 cost him re-election.

It is obvious that increasing capital gains taxes by a minimum of one-third and possibly doubling them, both of which Obama has proposed, would send a signal to investors to keep their money under the mattress. Who would buy stock knowing that the tax on any profits he or she will make is going to go up sharply if Obama becomes president?

Look at what happened just last year in Michigan. Democratic Gov. Jennifer Granholm raised taxes on almost everything. Income taxes shot up 11.5 percent, and the state’s 6 percent sales tax was expanded to dozens of new services, like investment advice, janitorial services, landscaping, ski lifts and carpet cleaning.

The $1.75 billion tax package shook the economy to its foundations. Michigan became the only one of the 50 states with a shrinking gross domestic product. The value of all goods and services produced in the state fell by 0.5 percent, while the national GDP rose by 3.4 percent. The state fell from 23rd in GDP to 35th. Taxes caused a disaster.

In a strong economy, Obama’s proposed tax increases would raise questions. In a weak economy, they portend a catastrophe. It would be like bleeding a sick patient, the medicine of 200 years ago, depriving him of blood even as he needs more, not less, circulating through his arteries.

McCain’s populist rhetoric, including his pledge to fire Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Christopher Cox is important for a Republican candidate. But his focus should shift to the tax issue. With firms suffering, withering and dying for a lack of capital, tax increases on those who invest would be a horrible mistake.

Americans will realize this obvious fact, and McCain should use it to gain the advantage in discussing the economy.

There is no reason for the economy to work to Obama’s advantage when he is committed to a doctrinaire program of tax increases and spending hikes. McCain can use the issue to run rings around him.
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Justforfun000 wrote:I'd be curious as to how anyone here would evaluate this article. Is there any good points or are they way off base?
It's a bunch of bullshit. Obama's tax plan achieves the same result as the stimulus check. Remember that? The thing the republicans touted as a way to save the economy from the rough spots it seemed to have been in ever since Bush took over? What Obama's tax plan does is put more money into the hands of the people at the bottom, and these are the people who most desperately need to spend it to crawl out out the holes they're in. They can use that money to buy cars, appliances, houses, pay for college, pay for groceries, and basically funnel cash back into the economy.

Instead of reducing taxes over and over and allowing businesses more and more leeway to allow them to squeeze more money out of the smaller and smaller demographics that can afford to avail themselves of them, raising taxes on the top and reducing them at the bottom keeps the flow of money going and stops it from just pooling at the very uppermost level. In an ideal world, the ultra rich would continue to grow their money through investment into business that would create new jobs, but as we've seen they're just more likely to hide it, spend it on luxury vaccum industries that never get that money back to the average joe, or throw that money out into foreign markets that don't grow the American ground-level economy at all.

And that's bad, because that weakens us at home, weakens the dollar, and fucks with global markets. America as a strong economic institution benefits the world by being a place for them to generate revenue as well, and all this is good for everyone. The myth of low taxes equals a strong economy should have been fully debunked by now because, in the long-term, it simply doesn't work. Taxes pay for things like roads that keep businesses trucks rolling, or the education that their workers get to do the job, or possibly some day the healthcare that every American has which reduces the burden on the employer to pay for it themselves. Taxes and regulation allow the government to create a country where people are free to concentrate on their business interests as best they can because the rest of society is rolling along just fine--reducing the taxes on the wealthy (since that's all that's going to be increased) won't hurt them worth a damn, and putting that money back into the bottom of the pile will keep it cycling upwards. These are people who are living in near poverty--you think they're sitting on it or putting it under the mattress? They're going to spend it, and that's going to make the economy stronger than another million dollars in a Cayman tax evasion account.
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Those op-ed writers have their heads firmly planted in McCain's ass and are living in dreamland. That's just more excuses for why rich people really really cannot afford to be taxed while they need bailing out of financial trouble. Fucking asshats.
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I typo'd, but it should be clear. When I say reducing the taxes on the wealthy I mean increasing the taxes on the wealthy, and by wealthy we mean people in the 250k+ brackets. Furthermore, the idea that this would hurt businesses is absurd. What happens are spikes and drops and other market fluctuations. Like the guy says, who is going to buy stocks when they think their ridiculous money gains are going to be taxed heavily? I don't know, maybe everyone who still plays the stock market?

How long do you think it'll take for people to settle down and put their money back in? Let's say a lot of people pull out--it'll look like a good time to buy for me, and I think others would think so too. And if you're seeing a healthier, less-taxed middle class with more money to throw around in stable, regulated investments, how is that bad? Won't that grow the economy more than an unregulated, top-down and disturbingly chaotic market does? So much of this is based on perception, and confidence, and the perception of safety. Give it a month and it'll go back to being fine, and then everyone will be doing better, buying things, and wondering why they were so upset in the first place.
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