In all honesty, what can McCain really do to help other than get his name in the papers for this? Will Obama follow suit as well?NEW YORK (CNN) -- Republican presidential candidate John McCain announced Wednesday that he is suspending his campaign to return to Washington and focus on the "historic" crisis facing the U.S. economy.
The Arizona senator called on his Democratic rival, Barack Obama, to do the same. He also urged organizers of Friday's presidential debate at the University of Mississippi to postpone the event.
"I am calling on the president to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself," McCain told reporters in New York. "It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem."
There was no immediate response from the Obama campaign.
McCain and his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, were in New York to meet with world leaders at the United Nations. They had met with Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili and Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko.
"Senator, governor, I'm really honored to be here with you. I know you have a very important campaign to run," Saakashvili said. "Overall, I have to say I greatly appreciate the solidarity we felt from the American people."
Earlier, Palin met with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani.
Obama on Wednesday lashed out at the Bush administration and his opponent on the handling of the crisis on Wall Street as well as the $700 billion bailout plan by Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson.
Congress and the White House are trying to negotiate the details of what would be the most sweeping economic intervention by the government since the Great Depression. Bush has asked Congress to act quickly on the bailout proposal following news of failing financial institutions and frozen credit markets.
"The clock is ticking on this crisis. We have to act swiftly, but we also have to get it right," Obama said in Dunedin, Florida. "And that means everyone -- Republicans and Democrats, and the White House and Congress -- must work together to come up with a solution that protects American taxpayers and our economy without rewarding those whose greed helped get us into this problem in the first place."
Obama said it's unacceptable to expect the American people to "hand this administration or any administration a $700 billion check with no conditions and no oversight when a lack of oversight in Washington and on Wall Street is exactly what got us into this mess."
He said struggling homeowners must be taken care of in any economic recovery plan -- and that taxpayers should "not be spending one dime to reward the same Wall Street CEOs whose greed and irresponsibility got us into this mess."
He also hit McCain for switching from his stance as an advocate for market deregulation to a strong supporter of regulation since the Wall Street crisis became front-page news.
"He's suddenly a hard-charging populist," Obama said. "And that's all well and good, but I sure wish he was talking the same way over a year ago, when I introduced a bill that would've helped stop the multimillion-dollar bonus packages that CEOs grab on their way out the door."
McCain's bombshell comes as a new CNN "poll of polls" out of Virginia on Wednesday shows McCain with the slimmest of leads in a state that traditionally has been a safe bet for Republicans.
The latest polls could be a warning sign for McCain that he still has work to do to lock down certain states where previous GOP nominees had to spend little time or effort doing so.
In the new poll of polls, McCain holds a 1 percentage point lead over Obama (47 percent to 46 percent) in Virginia, while 7 percent remain undecided.
The poll of polls is an average of three recent surveys of the state -- MSNBC/Mason-Dixon (September 17-22), ARG (September 17-20) and ABC/The Washington Post (September 18-21). The poll of polls does not have a sampling error.
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Blatant publicity stunt: "Oh look I'm so worried about America that I'm going to stop doing something that actually has a chance to put me in a position to actually make some real changes, and pretend that I can actually do something meaningful in the short amount of time leading up to the election."
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I was just about to post this. It's such bullshit. McCain misses 65% of his votes in the Senate and now he's suspending his campaign to work on it?
He's only doing it to save face in light of all the bloodletting that his campaign has gone through this week, not to mention keep Palin away from the media a little longer (who, by the way, has given TWO interviews so far.)
I'm wondering how Obama will respond; I'm kinda hoping he calls McCain on his BS.

I'm wondering how Obama will respond; I'm kinda hoping he calls McCain on his BS.

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Okay. He missed 65% of all votes, he stays on the trail, he constantly flimflams on what should be done or whether it's deregulation's fault, then suddenly, it's two days before the big debate, he's down in the polls, and now. Now, not any point earlier, not any point based on logic or facts, he wants to stop.
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What a bunch of complete bullshit pandering. Ugh, what a practiced political tactic. Of course the next line after "I'm 'suspending' my campaign" is "heh heh Barack better do it too!." Besides, what "work" will McSame offer, but voting yes on more corporate socialism like he's done for his whole career in Congress. Work is a photo op for McCain.
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Maybe McCain shouldn't have insisted all this time that only one-on-one debates could have stopped the AWFUL HORRIBLE smears from his camp.
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- If the debate goes on, and McCain stays away, he'd look like a coward.
- If the debate is cancelled (instead of posponed), McCain will lose the chance to beat Obama on his (McCain's) strongest topic.
- Every day McCain doesn't campaign or doesn't put out ads, it's another day won for Obama in key battleground states.
McCain is putting all his money on a single number in roulette. All he can hope for is that Obama will follow his lead, or that Joe Sixpack is actually watching the news and knows what's going on regarding the bailout and understand why it's important for a senator to be involved. Both cases are highly unlikely.
Maverick my ass, McCain really must be crazy. First the last minute pick with Palin, now this. Whenever he's down in the polls, he pulls a crazy look-at-me-being-a-maverick stunt and hopes it will distract the people for long enough for him to win.
Un-bloody-likely!
- If the debate is cancelled (instead of posponed), McCain will lose the chance to beat Obama on his (McCain's) strongest topic.
- Every day McCain doesn't campaign or doesn't put out ads, it's another day won for Obama in key battleground states.
McCain is putting all his money on a single number in roulette. All he can hope for is that Obama will follow his lead, or that Joe Sixpack is actually watching the news and knows what's going on regarding the bailout and understand why it's important for a senator to be involved. Both cases are highly unlikely.
Maverick my ass, McCain really must be crazy. First the last minute pick with Palin, now this. Whenever he's down in the polls, he pulls a crazy look-at-me-being-a-maverick stunt and hopes it will distract the people for long enough for him to win.
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A different thing occoured to me.Tanasinn wrote:Translation from politi-speak: "I'm getting my ass chewed off in polls when it comes to perceptions of economic issues, so I better pretend I give a fuck and know what I'm doing."
McCain's campaign is almost all lobbyists. Everyone knows that now.
Lobbyists are being deployed by the cartload to try and ram through Paulson's version.
McCain's lobbyists/campaign may want 'their share' of the 700 billion and thus need to be there.
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Yeah, sure. "My campaign manager cashed a $15,000 check from Fannie May last month (and incidentally, I lied about it), my veep's favorable rating is cratering, and we're in a huge crisis manufactured by my own party and my party's biggest supporters, and I'm getting my ass kicked, so I'm going to suspend my campaign because I'm a statesman." It's a transparent political gimmick designed to get Obama to take his foot off McCain's neck; tomorrow the McSame campaign will be whining that Obama is putting politics above country, which is almost certainly the point of the whole exercise.

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Ironically, I've not seen anything saying McCain won't go to the Clinton Global Initiative tomorrow, or cancel his meetings today.
Meetings which include Bono.
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Watching Sky news, there is word coming through that Obama went to McCain to try and look at a join statement about the two of them dealing with the crisis. At which point McCain jumped off the plane and announced he was going to suspend the campaign and having 'talked to' Obama, encourages him to do the same.
Shouldn't surprise me, but it does.
Obama has come out smoothly though, unfortunately he appears to agree about suspending his campaign, but demands the debates go ahead AND laid down the points for any rescue package that it should pay back the US taxpayer in the long term, not a CENT for any wall street executives if they take the money, help for hard pressed people in danger of loosing their houses e.t.c.
Quite interesting so far, though if Obama made the first move he really needs someone -perhaps Biden- to get out there and say exactly what was being proposed and how McCain, despite all his talk of wanting to be bipartisan about everything, jumped in front of the cameras as fast as he could to claim credit.
Shouldn't surprise me, but it does.
Obama has come out smoothly though, unfortunately he appears to agree about suspending his campaign, but demands the debates go ahead AND laid down the points for any rescue package that it should pay back the US taxpayer in the long term, not a CENT for any wall street executives if they take the money, help for hard pressed people in danger of loosing their houses e.t.c.
Quite interesting so far, though if Obama made the first move he really needs someone -perhaps Biden- to get out there and say exactly what was being proposed and how McCain, despite all his talk of wanting to be bipartisan about everything, jumped in front of the cameras as fast as he could to claim credit.

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I just realized who McCain increasingly reminds me of: Eric Cartman. This is exactly the sort of thing Eric Cartman would do.

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Forgive me if I'm missing something obvious, but who the hell is Eric Cartman?Darth Wong wrote:I just realized who McCain increasingly reminds me of: Eric Cartman. This is exactly the sort of thing Eric Cartman would do.
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So can any amount of spin help McCain here?
Or at this rate will Friday's debate become another Obama speech? (YAY!)
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Well, it's not quite what you asked for, but some other Democrats have been going after McCain for this. The NYT had the following bit...Chris OFarrell wrote:Quite interesting so far, though if Obama made the first move he really needs someone -perhaps Biden- to get out there and say exactly what was being proposed and how McCain, despite all his talk of wanting to be bipartisan about everything, jumped in front of the cameras as fast as he could to claim credit.
“What, does McCain think the Senate will still be working at 9 p.m. Friday?” Gov. Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania said in an interview, referring to the scheduled start time of the debate. “I think this is all political — I wish McCain had shown the same concern when he didn’t show up in the Senate to vote on the extension of the renewable energy tax credit.”
Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, who is leading House Democrats in negotiating the bailout deal with the administration, was dismissive of Senator McCain’s announcement. “It’s the longest Hail Mary pass in the history of either football or Marys,” Mr. Frank told a group of reporters outside the House chamber.
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I believe Wizard's First Rule applies: people are stupid. They will believe anything you want them to with enough repetition, either because they want to believe its true, or because they're afraid its true.So can any amount of spin help McCain here?
In short: do not underestimate the ignorance and stupidity of Joe Sixpack.
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There was a blog on 538 about how Palin was basically "A 50% shot at winning the presidency by .1% versus a 100% shot at losing it by 2%"
This strikes me as a similar move... it's really reaching. Like Palin, I suspect it will backfire.
This strikes me as a similar move... it's really reaching. Like Palin, I suspect it will backfire.
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(CNN) — McCain supporter Sen. Lindsey Graham tells CNN the McCain campaign is proposing to the Presidential Debate Commission and the Obama camp that if there's no bailout deal by Friday, the first presidential debate should take the place of the VP debate, currently scheduled for next Thursday, October 2 in St. Louis.
In this scenario, the vice presidential debate between Joe Biden and Sarah Palin would be rescheduled for a date yet to be determined, and take place in Oxford, Mississippi, currently slated to be the site of the first presidential faceoff this Friday.
Graham says the McCain camp is well aware of the position of the Obama campaign and the debate commission that the debate should go on as planned — but both he and another senior McCain adviser insist the Republican nominee will not go to the debate Friday if there's no deal on the bailout.
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So now he is trying to weasel Palin out of her debate to save face as well. I hate this sort of mindless political bullshittery. Just admit you picked a moron for your VP and now you have to protect her.
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