The VP-Debate

CaptJodan · Post by **CaptJodan** » 2008-10-02 10:31pm

The Vortex Empire wrote: Just wait for the conservatards to try and say Palin won.

Yeah, that'll be real fun.

Ohma · Post by **Ohma** » 2008-10-02 10:33pm

Coyote wrote:Has she actually answered a single question? I mean... really answered one?

I tune out and come back in, and it seems like she's using the same buzzword-laden, pre-recorded mishmash of flag-waving rah-rah cheerleader crap (mixing up the order a bit each time) to avoid answering any question.

Yeah, I'll turn away from the TV for a bit and all I hear from her is something incoherent like "Reagan freedom energy independance taxes maverick white flag taxes."

Wait wait wait what? Tell me Katie, how did she not embarrass herself?

Darth Lucifer · Post by **Darth Lucifer** » 2008-10-02 10:33pm

Biden demolished her.

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2008-10-02 10:34pm

Biden had the superior debate BUT I'm not sure that it will be that noticeable in the aftermath. Expectations for her were so fucking low that it would have been near impossible for her not to exceed them. So yeah she did ok...for the sub-floor expectation that McCain's working the refs set.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2008-10-02 10:34pm

I'm so disgusted with Palin right now.

Who the fuck is dumb enough to vote for this piece of shit and her old man puppet master?

JLTucker · Post by **JLTucker** » 2008-10-02 10:34pm

This debate was so much better than the first debate between Obama and Mccain. I also love how Biden walked over to Palin's family and shook their hands.

Falkenhayn · Post by **Falkenhayn** » 2008-10-02 10:35pm

So naturally, Chuck Todd comes on and says it was a wash...

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2008-10-02 10:35pm

Larry Kudlow on CNBC is already saying she won.

Oh wait, now he just said she'll at least get a tie. Of course, he also said we're not in a recession a month ago.

Ekiqa · Post by **Ekiqa** » 2008-10-02 10:35pm

Been switching between the VP debate and the Canadian debate.

If the VP debate had been like the Canadian one, where they argue and respond directly to comments and such, Palin would've completely been slaughtered.

CaptJodan · Post by **CaptJodan** » 2008-10-02 10:36pm

My father said she did great, though he's still not voting that way.

"I'm glad she did great because she's really intelligent." Wow...

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2008-10-02 10:36pm

I am willing to bet that the GOP wil lrather easily spin this as a victory, they live in a fantasy land, up is down, black is white, Plain wins over Biden!

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2008-10-02 10:36pm

Is it common in an election for a VP debate to be more influential than a Presidential one? I mean, we all saw that debate, it was just a summary of the headlines that we've all heard before. This debate I think brought a good deal to light about the VP's personalities and policies.

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2008-10-02 10:37pm

As an addendum to what I said earlier the pundit wisdom after the Obama/McCain debate was a wash and the polls ended up showing a decisive Obama win so I think the punditry will, as with pretty much everything else, be about useless here.

Falkenhayn · Post by **Falkenhayn** » 2008-10-02 10:37pm

Yep, she's got a pulse at the end of the evening, so it's a draw. That's what I'm getting from the punditocracy. If anything, Brokaw's saying she won.

Invictus ChiKen · Post by **Invictus ChiKen** » 2008-10-02 10:39pm

This wasn't a debate. This was a massacre, I love Joe Biden right now

By the way, if anyone is interested you can vote on cnn's home page on who won the debate.

RIPP_n_WIPE · Post by **RIPP_n_WIPE** » 2008-10-02 10:40pm

No matter what happens in the election, Palins award is in heaven!

Falkenhayn · Post by **Falkenhayn** » 2008-10-02 10:41pm

Geraldine Ferraro is the surrogate on NBC. She's talking up Sarah Palin. Who the fuck made that call?

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2008-10-02 10:45pm

After seeing Palin get thouroughly demolished in this debate, is anyone else as utterly terrified as I am that this crazy retard bitch is so close to the most powerful office in the country?

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2008-10-02 10:46pm

They just made a fool of Kudlow on CNBC. The big segment he touted as a victory for Palin, the general's name she brought up, was incorrect. It was McKiernan not McClellan.

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2008-10-02 10:47pm

Darksider wrote:After seeing Palin get thouroughly demolished in this debate, is anyone else as utterly terrified as I am that this crazy retard bitch is so close to the most powerful office in the country?

Warm apple pie for all! Alaska, fuck yeah!

CaptJodan · Post by **CaptJodan** » 2008-10-02 10:48pm

Darksider wrote:After seeing Palin get thouroughly demolished in this debate, is anyone else as utterly terrified as I am that this crazy retard bitch is so close to the most powerful office in the country?

I'm actually more fearful that because many here fear that she was demonlished, that somehow the polls will show the reverse. Last week's Obama/McCain debate had a surprising fear of McCain holding his own by many, and when the polls came out, it was quite a different story. I can't possibly see how someone would think she did well, but then 30% of the public still supports Bush.

Aratech · Post by **Aratech** » 2008-10-02 10:48pm

Superman wrote:They just made a fool of Kudlow on CNBC. The big segment he touted as a victory for Palin, the general's name she brought up, was incorrect. It was McKiernan not McClellan.

Excellent.

Nice to see the dumb bitch get so thoroughly manhandled. I've an image of Gimpy trying desperately to resist the urge to rip out what remains of his hair in frustration.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2008-10-02 10:49pm

See, that is the kind of shit i'm talking about. It's like watching her pathetic performance in this debate has truly opened my eyes to how utterly wrong of a leader she would be for America.

I don't know weather to laugh or cry anymore

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2008-10-02 10:49pm

Superman wrote:Larry Kudlow on CNBC is already saying she won. Oh wait, now he just said she'll at least get a tie. Of course, he also said we're not in a recession a month ago.

You have to remember 2 things.

1) a landslide is not in the media's best interests. close elections bring better ratings
2) americans are largely idiots.

That will explain any particular spin and subsequent bump in the polls

Medic · Post by **Medic** » 2008-10-02 10:50pm

WOAH...

Anyone else watch the immediate post-debate Fox News coverage? (I watch fox explicitly to hear these opinions) I watched as long as it took them to ask an 'undecided crowd' at Anheuser-Busch (yes, the beer company) that's supposedly were, as I said, all undecided going INTO the debate and 'split evenly' in voting for Bush / Kerry in 04.

The guy running this segment of the debate coverage asked the crowd explicity 'did Palin do better than EXPECTED?'
Overwhelming yes.

So not only YES, was the bar lowered inordinately for her, but even worse, that she exceeded this deplorably low threshold of knowledge / competence is seen as a positive, that she won the debate!

I hope that was staged; it was like something out of the Twilight Zone.

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