Ideas for Another Grand Theft Auto...

[Big Orange]

I also found True Crime to be a very bland and poor game. I found it competent and modelling LA accurately was a brave move, but I found rolling around the compressed, stereotypical Los Santos to be much more fun.

[RogueIce]

So? That game didn't exactly take itself seriously. I love the little quips the protagonist makes. *drives over a pedestrian* <paraphrasing>"Ding! Five points. Oh wait that wasn't funny."

"Boyz 'n' the hood - of my car"

Were those quotes from LA or NYC? I don't remember them in NYC...

Anyway, I prefer the more realistic tone and feel of GTAIV, so stupidly over-the-top crap (like the supervillian lair) would be a Bad Thing IMNSHO. Plus, I take the tack that GTAIV is a whole new continuity seperate from the "GTA3-verse" so as much as it pains me to never see (or hear) Donald Love or Mike Toreno again, I'll have to go with that.

As to where to go now? A semi-modern Miami would be nice. Plenty to do and see there.

[Bounty]

Were those quotes from LA or NYC? I don't remember them in NYC...

LA. They tried making Nick a wisecracking badass. Suffice to say it didn't really work...

"It's Dim Sum time!"
"Crime don't pay - but sometimes, it hurts like hell".

Now imagine hearing those twice a minute for a few hours.

[Big Orange]

Anyway, I prefer the more realistic tone and feel of GTAIV, so stupidly over-the-top crap (like the supervillian lair) would be a Bad Thing IMNSHO.

It would be dumb for a location like Liberty City, Los Santos or Carcer City, but not so much if it set on a island some way out from Vice City or somewhere deep in Souh Ameirca. In a gritty place like Liberty City a elaborate nightclub, sophisticated drug laboratory or a NSA complex in a building's sublevel would be much more in keeping with GTA IV's general tone.

[chitoryu12]

Something I'd like to see is having your buddies help you out in a firefight and vice versa. In every mission where you get some help in a gun battle on the street or in an apartment, they always just do their own thing, damn the torpedoes. It would be a great help if you and your allies could exchange weapons and ammo and heal each other. Maybe helping a wounded comrade to safety while having your other friend cover you. It's endlessly annoying when the people you have to protect just run out from cover guns blazing and get sprayed with lead.

[Big Orange]

I've got more ideas that may be useful:

* On a Six Star rating instead of tanks, you get Police riot tanks backing up the NOOSE teams. They would have a firehose, coaxial machinegun and tear gas dispensers in their turrets.

* You could have a mission breaking in or escaping from a seemingly impregnable Supermax prison located out in the sticks.

* Mansions and other kinds of private property could have security guards and alarms to prevent you from just walking/driving in. Trespassing could trigger a one star rating (which climbs up if you break/steal/kill things).

* The NSA or some other government agency could have a secret base hidden beneath a building.

[Jade Falcon]

Something I'd like to see is having your buddies help you out in a firefight and vice versa. In every mission where you get some help in a gun battle on the street or in an apartment, they always just do their own thing, damn the torpedoes. It would be a great help if you and your allies could exchange weapons and ammo and heal each other. Maybe helping a wounded comrade to safety while having your other friend cover you. It's endlessly annoying when the people you have to protect just run out from cover guns blazing and get sprayed with lead.

That was done to an extent in Saints Row. You could call along some 'homies' to jump in your car or follow you around, but if you were in your territory and being attacked, nearby friendly gang members would come to your aid.

[chitoryu12]

Something I'd like to see is having your buddies help you out in a firefight and vice versa. In every mission where you get some help in a gun battle on the street or in an apartment, they always just do their own thing, damn the torpedoes. It would be a great help if you and your allies could exchange weapons and ammo and heal each other. Maybe helping a wounded comrade to safety while having your other friend cover you. It's endlessly annoying when the people you have to protect just run out from cover guns blazing and get sprayed with lead.

That was done to an extent in Saints Row. You could call along some 'homies' to jump in your car or follow you around, but if you were in your territory and being attacked, nearby friendly gang members would come to your aid.

I remember that. I can't recall if they did the same or a similar thing in San Andreas. However, it would have been nice if not only could you revive your homies, but you could call them over to heal you or give you extra ammo. It would be better if this feature could be extended to a co-op mission strand.

[KlavoHunter]

I'm hoping for, in the next GTA or two, for there to be DLC cities for sandbox play - Pay 5 bucks, wait a half-hour for it to download, and suddenly you're jacking cars and racing away from the cops on the familiar streets of your home town.

[Big Orange]

I'm hoping for, in the next GTA or two, for there to be DLC cities for sandbox play - Pay 5 bucks, wait a half-hour for it to download, and suddenly you're jacking cars and racing away from the cops on the familiar streets of your home town.

This may very likely happen.

[Enigma]

I'm hoping for, in the next GTA or two, for there to be DLC cities for sandbox play - Pay 5 bucks, wait a half-hour for it to download, and suddenly you're jacking cars and racing away from the cops on the familiar streets of your home town.

This may very likely happen.

Umm you do know that thread was dated April 20-21? Didn't GTAIV only came out a few days later? Of course at that time there were rumours or plans for DLC content but is there any recent evidence that there will be DLC content for GTAIV?

[Big Orange]

Hmmm, that rumor is still in circulation if this sister thread from SFX is anything to go by:

We'll find out soon enough. Apparently the successor to GTA4 was in development before GTA4 was even half-finished, and according to Rockstar is due some time in late 2009-early 2010.

I doubt they're just going to update Vice City and San Andreas. Liberty is the ancestral home of the franchise, so we're probably always going to see it whenever a new engine is launched, but the rest should be up for grabs. I think Rockstar have hinted that Carcer City may get an airing, as well as possibly non-US locations, such as a city based on London, Mexico City or Tokyo. The interesting question is whether they'll go back, or maybe slightly forwards, in time as well. The 1960s and 1970s could be good settings for a GTA game.

We'll probably also see a return to the property-owning and gang-running aspects from VC and SA, with more things to spend your money on. I also wouldn't rule out them doing something different. In an interview with EDGE magazine, Dan Houser suggested that they would expand the GTA universe by bolting on new downloadable cities and intervening areas of wilderness. How this will work for the non-installed 360 version remains to be seen.

[NeoGoomba]

I want to be a cop. A BAD COP. EGM or some other magazine did a pretty sweet workup of a GTA game where youre a cop playing both sides of the law, either being forced to go bad or by being a dirty cop off the bat. Getting to call in reinforcements, much more in depth "Vigilante" missions (though not really Vigilante), capture and contain missions, super detailed police network at your disposal, it was a sweet idea.

[chitoryu12]

In an interview with EDGE magazine, Dan Houser suggested that they would expand the GTA universe by bolting on new downloadable cities and intervening areas of wilderness. How this will work for the non-installed 360 version remains to be seen.

I'm not sure why it would be a problem, as it could simply be downloaded to an attached hard drive.

[Ford Prefect]

I think there would be a market for Grand Theft Auto: Mos Eisley.

[Gandalf]

If they choose to go away from the US, I hope that they try for satirical versions of the cities. Like when Batman went to London, it was Londinium. A mock England, or Japan would be hilarious fun.

I think there would be a market for Grand Theft Auto: Mos Eisley.

Or Coruscant. That'd be a pretty big level.

[TithonusSyndrome]

If they choose to go away from the US, I hope that they try for satirical versions of the cities. Like when Batman went to London, it was Londinium. A mock England, or Japan would be hilarious fun.

If they did go to other countries of that size, I'd hope they would choose to maintain the same incisive, ruthless humor about the nature of life in that country just like they mercilessly rip American culture throughout the games to date. Nothing pisses me off more than a writer who relies on century-old stereotypes when mocking a foreign country. In other words, a game set in England ought to be more Monkey Dust than Family Guy in it's treatment.

[RedImperator]

If they set a GTA in Prohibition-era Chicago, I'd buy an X-Box right this minute. Fedoras, tommy guns, the Untouchables, flappers, speakeasies, the Broadway Limited, cars that looked like this, and the blues? Fuck yeah.

[Gil Hamilton]

That's a good call, Red.


On a less serious note, a Grand Theft Auto: Stalingrad would be pretty awesome too.

[RogueIce]

I think there would be a market for Grand Theft Auto: Mos Eisley.

Or Coruscant. That'd be a pretty big level.

Does a six star wanted level result in a Star Destroyer bombardment?

On a less serious note, a Grand Theft Auto: Stalingrad would be pretty awesome too.

I think they'll save that for Mercenaries 3.

[Big Orange]

A era that could be great is the 1950s with the Cold War paranoia and picket fenced Amerca. You'd get tons of factory fresh Cadillac and Edsels, with off road diners being everywhere and in a much better state than in San Andreas.

[Admiral Valdemar]

I still like the idea of '70s or '60s era stuff, but preferably not just London. Why not Manchester? London gets all the fucking attention.

That, or Red's idea, which is like a better version of Mafia with no doubt endless tongue-in-cheek additions. Of course, the lack of the new functions shown in GTAIV would be a bit of a blow, unless they really pull off something else that fits in that era and is unique.

[weemadando]

I still like the idea of '70s or '60s era stuff, but preferably not just London. Why not Manchester? London gets all the fucking attention.

That, or Red's idea, which is like a better version of Mafia with no doubt endless tongue-in-cheek additions. Of course, the lack of the new functions shown in GTAIV would be a bit of a blow, unless they really pull off something else that fits in that era and is unique.

Oooh! Oooh! GTA: The Troubles. Northern Ireland 1970-1985 (or thereabouts).

Lots of factions (including various Loyalist/Prods and the Republicans/Catholics, MI5, MI6, KGB, various police and military groups...), great mix of settings (nasty, gritty cities and beautiful countrysides) and the potential for some absolutely insane set-pieces (riots in the cities, marches, VCPs, bombings, raids and all the rest). Oh, and fantastic accents.

This game needs to be made.

[Marko Dash]

why not Cuba gives you a range of cars from modern all the way back to cold war era. and gives a reason for military at six stars.

i like it even more as part of a new vice city.

[Admiral Valdemar]

Oooh! Oooh! GTA: The Troubles. Northern Ireland 1970-1985 (or thereabouts).

Lots of factions (including various Loyalist/Prods and the Republicans/Catholics, MI5, MI6, KGB, various police and military groups...), great mix of settings (nasty, gritty cities and beautiful countrysides) and the potential for some absolutely insane set-pieces (riots in the cities, marches, VCPs, bombings, raids and all the rest). Oh, and fantastic accents.

This game needs to be made.

I'm Admiral Valdemar and I endorse this message.