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DENVER (AP) -- Prices at the pump are dropping fast, and gas could fall below $3 a gallon in a matter of weeks, if not sooner. Does that mean Americans will return to their heedless, gas-guzzling ways?

Experts say no because most drivers assume the dip in prices will be short-lived, and motorists have adjusted their habits accordingly.

"We've been through almost eight years of continuously rising gasoline prices," AAA spokesman Geoff Sundstrom said. "Any notion that this is a temporary thing has pretty well been erased."

New technologies are emerging fast, with electric cars expected to hit the market in a couple years. But the question is no longer when gas prices will fall, but when will the next spike come?

"Everywhere you go, be it the store, the diner, whatever, you hear people talking about their gas costs and how they need to cut back, said David Robinson, 67, while a friend filled up in Lakewood, N.J. "You still hear it, even though gas keeps dropping."

Even automakers that have long relied on big trucks for profits are moving in a new direction.

Ford Motor Co. is changing from a truck to a car company in North America. General Motors Corp. is closing four factories that make pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles. It will also open a new plant to make four-cylinder engines for the Chevrolet Volt electric car and Chevrolet Cruze compact.

The shift in consumer behavior was noted by AAA in December, when vehicle miles traveled began to slip. Regular gasoline had just risen above $3 a gallon during a month when gas prices usually fall.

By July, regular unleaded gasoline set a record national average of $4.11 a gallon.

The slackening demand for fuel is backed up by industry analysts, who say there has not been such a drastic shift in driving behavior in decades. Demand for gasoline dropped 6 percent over a couple months.

"For most of this decade, we've seen uncertainty manifest itself in the oil markets" in terms of supply," said Tom Kloza, publisher and chief oil analyst at the Oil Price Information Service in Wall, N.J. "This is probably the most depressive period" consumers have seen in a generation.

Gas prices fell again Friday to a national average of $3.35.

Prices dipped below $3 a gallon on average in Kansas, Missouri and Oklahoma. If crude keeps falling, the rest of country should see gasoline selling for less than $3 in the next few weeks or sooner, experts say.

In the Denver suburb of Wheat Ridge, Clarke Soule paid $3.31 a gallon to fill his Lincoln Navigator. The self-described ultra-conservative blames the high prices on drilling bans on the outer continental shelf and in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

"I worked 47 years for AT&T, and when I want to buy something, I buy it," said Soule, 65.

For many Americans, the big car is too ingrained as a way of life to let go, said Kit Yarrow, a Golden Gate University psychologist who researches the effects of oil prices on consumer behavior.

"Driving is just so central to their lives, their feelings of freedom and so on, that they're to going to do what they're going to do," she said.

But for most other drivers, that way of thinking has been abandoned.

"People kind of understand now what their foot on the pedal means in terms of money," she said.

Bob Gomez, a state employee in Colorado, has begun to car pool.

In Los Angeles, artist Shahla Kareen gave up her 2007 BMW 530i sedan in July for a 1978 Mercedes fueled with waste vegetable oil. She pays $1 a gallon.

"I would spend $75 to $100 to fill up my tank per week with the BMW," Kareen said. "Now I spend maybe $20 a week."

There have been broad changes across entire industries as well.

Cruise lines have altered routes to save fuel. UPS Inc. and the U.S. Postal Service are turning to alternative-fuel vehicles, and UPS plans to use biodiesel at its Kentucky air hub. Airlines are shifting to more fuel-efficient planes.

Industry analysts say gas could fall as low as $2.50 to $2.75 a gallon, but many see that as a temporary pause before prices rise again.

Analyst Stephen Schork said that any return to more liberal use of fuel would occur a long time from now because consumers are already making big-ticket decisions about what cars they will drive.

In September, consumers continued shifting from trucks and SUVs to cars, with car sales representing 52 percent of the market. Sales of Ford's top-selling F-series pickup trucks fell 42 percent.

David Portalatin, an automotive industry analyst for the NPD Group, said research has shown both short-term and long-term behavior changes that will continue for an extended period regardless of the gas price.

"Consumers don't have a lot of faith that the price will come down and will stay there for very long," he said. "Today's consumer is more thoughtful about overall finances."
Now, I know that it's not kosher price theory to assume that price shifts change habits, but this seems a pretty damned good case against that model to me. What we have is that, even though gasoline prices have dropped back to where they were a year ago, consumption is not rising back to where one might expect it to be: the price shift has changed expectations, and so permanently changed behavior. We could be setting ourselves up for doing better than expected in the next supply crunch.

By the way, I've seen the claim thrown about, but what's the evidence that the 6% drop in gas consumption is chiefly a result of demand destruction and not changing behavior?
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I think there's several things at work here. Yes gas is expensive and has stayed expensive long enough so that people are now thinking it's probably permanent, and so they're starting to change their buying habits to save gas. There's also the big credit crunch thanks to the economy going kaboom, this has wiped out car loans, HELOCs and financing so that people can't buy a big fat SUV or truck anymore since the credit & loans to do so is gone. People are now forced to buy vehicles they can actually afford, meaning econocars and family cars instead of luxury sports cars and trucks/SUV's. This would improve the fuel economy of the car fleet.

Also having to do with the credit crunch, it's harder to buy gas on credit these days, many gas stations have lowered the limit for credit card gas purchases. Used to be the limit was $100 or more, usually quite a bit more, but in the last half year or so I've heard reports that many stations have dropped it down to $50 or so, and some have gone all the way down to $30. Can't fill up a truck/SUV for $50, let alone $30. That is, if your credit card still works, one of my wife's friends works for a major bank and I'm told they've had record numbers of credit card cancellations this year.

To me it's a 2 part shift, people are finally adjusting to high gas prices, and there's also demand destruction caused by credit going bye-bye and people going broke.
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Actually, around here, it's hard to get a car loan for any car. My brother was trying to get a car recently and has excellent credit, several thousand dollars ready to put down, and an older car to trade in and he couldn't get a loan at all that was in any way shape or form reasonable. And he didn't want an expensive or big car, just a car.
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Surlethe wrote:By the way, I've seen the claim thrown about, but what's the evidence that the 6% drop in gas consumption is chiefly a result of demand destruction and not changing behavior?
Um, changing behavior can generate demand destruction. Especially when the change in behavior involves consumers trading in large, fuel-inefficient vehicles for small, fuel-efficient ones (as this is a decision with long-term impact. After all, you can't trade in your GMC Yukon for a Chevy Volt one month, and then trade that in for Cadillac Escalade a month later. You're going to be keeping that Volt for awhile. And as for that GMC Yukon you traded in? It, and its brethren are now sitting on used car lots, depreciating like rocks. This drives down the overall prices of vehicles sold the used car market. What that means is that when you bought that Volt, its value will fall far faster with respect to time than it would've before. Now, not only will you have more incentive to keep it, but your cost of ownership rises, since you will be keeping the vehicle longer, and recovering less of your investment at the vehicle's end of life. That encourages you to buy less-expensive, lower-maintenance, highly fuel-efficient vehicles further down the line.)

And in the article, they note that the change in what consumers are demanding is such that Ford and GM are shutting down factories and production lines tooled to build trucks and SUVs and expanding economy car production. That is a decision which cannot be trivially undone. Even if the Flying RAR monster permanently made gas prices $0.50/gallon a few months from now, the demand curve will still favor small, fuel-efficient cars. Both for the factors listed above, and the fact that it would cost the car manufacturers non-trivial quantities of time and money to retool for producing more SUVs again.

And if that weren't enough, there's also the destruction of demand for cars caused by the economy going down in flames (people can't afford big, expensive gas-guzzlers,) and the tightening of the credit markets (the bank won't give you a loan to buy a big, expensive gas-guzzler. You might be lucky if they give you a loan to buy the little fuel-efficient car. In fact, you'd probably end up buying a '90s or early '00s Toyota econobox for whatever on-hand cash you can budget for buying a car.)
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aerius wrote: Also having to do with the credit crunch, it's harder to buy gas on credit these days, many gas stations have lowered the limit for credit card gas purchases. Used to be the limit was $100 or more, usually quite a bit more, but in the last half year or so I've heard reports that many stations have dropped it down to $50 or so, and some have gone all the way down to $30.
Two things to point out here:

1) Those limits are not the same for all customers, they are done dynamically on a per-card basis using velocity systems such as Cybersource Decision Manager. The velocities are based on things like card history, negative files, card type (debit, credit, prepaid debit) and even finer grained details sometime.

2) The reasons for those limits have nothing to do with credit card merchant charges (which actually get better with higher purchases) and everything to do with credit card fraud. Because there isn't a human being at the pump, you can easily get away with swiping a stolen card as long as you know the billing zip code (and you used to not even need that). Because credit card fraud is entirely put upon the merchant by the card associations, they have a huge interest in fighting chargebacks.

If you actually go inside instead of using the pump terminal you can actually authorize much larger gas purchases.
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Surlethe wrote:By the way, I've seen the claim thrown about, but what's the evidence that the 6% drop in gas consumption is chiefly a result of demand destruction and not changing behavior?
Um, changing behavior can generate demand destruction. Especially when the change in behavior involves consumers trading in large, fuel-inefficient vehicles for small, fuel-efficient ones (as this is a decision with long-term impact. After all, you can't trade in your GMC Yukon for a Chevy Volt one month, and then trade that in for Cadillac Escalade a month later. You're going to be keeping that Volt for awhile. And as for that GMC Yukon you traded in? It, and its brethren are now sitting on used car lots, depreciating like rocks. This drives down the overall prices of vehicles sold the used car market. What that means is that when you bought that Volt, its value will fall far faster with respect to time than it would've before. Now, not only will you have more incentive to keep it, but your cost of ownership rises, since you will be keeping the vehicle longer, and recovering less of your investment at the vehicle's end of life. That encourages you to buy less-expensive, lower-maintenance, highly fuel-efficient vehicles further down the line.)

And in the article, they note that the change in what consumers are demanding is such that Ford and GM are shutting down factories and production lines tooled to build trucks and SUVs and expanding economy car production. That is a decision which cannot be trivially undone. Even if the Flying RAR monster permanently made gas prices $0.50/gallon a few months from now, the demand curve will still favor small, fuel-efficient cars. Both for the factors listed above, and the fact that it would cost the car manufacturers non-trivial quantities of time and money to retool for producing more SUVs again.

And if that weren't enough, there's also the destruction of demand for cars caused by the economy going down in flames (people can't afford big, expensive gas-guzzlers,) and the tightening of the credit markets (the bank won't give you a loan to buy a big, expensive gas-guzzler. You might be lucky if they give you a loan to buy the little fuel-efficient car. In fact, you'd probably end up buying a '90s or early '00s Toyota econobox for whatever on-hand cash you can budget for buying a car.)
What you say is true. I guess I'm asking: how much of the decrease in gas consumption is because consumers can't afford gas (or the associated cars) -- what I identified as "demand destruction" -- and how much of it is due to changes in behavior? Sometimes it sounds like all of the price decrease is being pegged on the economic crisis and not so much on people buying smaller cars, driving less, carpooling, taking public transportation, moving closer to work, etc.
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