Parents are outraged at teacher for being transgendered

[Havok]

Just so you know, I looked up Vacaville on Google Maps and it's a dipshit town surrounded by open space. What a shock.

Oh please, Mike. Vacaville is in Napa Valley, and is a suburb of San Francisco, hardly a conservative hotbed. What's happening here has much less to do with the town (and your suggestion that it's full of small minded, conservative bigots), and says more about people's discomfort (in general) with transgendered individuals.

And as Vendetta pointed out, the school district responded exactly as they should have, with a polite but firm "fuck you."

By the way, some demographic information on Vacaville http://www.muninetguide.com/states/cali ... aville.php

Fucking hell. Vacaville is NOT a suburb of San Francisco. It's not even close. It is exactly what Mike says it is, just like half the cities and towns around here, filled with idiots and bigots.

You sound like those idiots that say everything in Northern California is in the S.F. Bay area.

[Stormbringer]

whether they be right or wrong and they have the right in order to be informed about what's going on so they can make the best desicion for their children.

No. They do not have the right to be informed about personal details of a school employee. And the school, as they determined when they took legal advice on the matter, has a legal obligation not to disclose such details. Full stop, end of story.

Not to defend the bigots' behavior but the idea that this is some how private is rather insane. She left a man and came back the next year a woman; it doesn't take an Einstein to figure out what happened. This isn't like sexuality or religion where it's genuinely private as it's something obvious from the situation.

[Duckie]

whether they be right or wrong and they have the right in order to be informed about what's going on so they can make the best desicion for their children.

No. They do not have the right to be informed about personal details of a school employee. And the school, as they determined when they took legal advice on the matter, has a legal obligation not to disclose such details. Full stop, end of story.

Not to defend the bigots' behavior but the idea that this is some how private is rather insane. She left a man and came back the next year a woman; it doesn't take an Einstein to figure out what happened. This isn't like sexuality or religion where it's genuinely private as it's something obvious from the situation.

No, he left a woman and returned a man. Further, to get to the point of operation he would have already looked pretty normal, so it would have only been noticable beforehand had the teacher disclosed it or not worn pants.

[Stormbringer]

No, he left a woman and returned a man.

My mistake. I don't know how I got that mixed up.

Further, to get to the point of operation he would have already looked pretty normal, so it would have only been noticable beforehand had the teacher disclosed it or not worn pants.

That assumes that no one noticed the pre-op changes, which is hardly a given as that's not exactly a short term procedure. Two and a half to three months is not going to cover it all, not by a long shot. For some one you see nearly every day, it would be pretty recognizable on it's own.

Furthermore, that assumes that the resemblance is so drastically difference that people were unable to figure it out (with or with out the cue of the name). That's far from a given as not all sex-change surgeries are done to the same degree. It would take cosmetic surgery well above and beyond to totally change the underlying facial features. It's not all beyond reason to think that kids and parents did indeed know enough to figure it out.

Either way, I think the whole private issue thing is rather absurd. This isn't something terribly private and trying to pretend it is borders on the farcical. At best it does nothing and more realistically it's playing into the hands of the bigots.

[Superman]

Sounds like an episode of South Park.

I live 30 miles from Vacaville. It's certainly not a suburb of San Francisco, at least anymore than Sacramento is. It's a hick town; let's all stop pretending it isn't. Frankly, I would wonder why someone in that teacher's position would want to live there, but that's a different issue. With the exception of the Bay Area, and some of Sacramento, Northern California is basically like Vacaville. It's full of small town, small minded shit-kicker types who drive Ford 350 pick ups and think it's okay to use racial slurs in everyday conversation.

[Alyrium Denryle]

Furthermore, that assumes that the resemblance is so drastically difference that people were unable to figure it out (with or with out the cue of the name). That's far from a given as not all sex-change surgeries are done to the same degree. It would take cosmetic surgery well above and beyond to totally change the underlying facial features. It's not all beyond reason to think that kids and parents did indeed know enough to figure it out.

As I have said before... the name change was probably done a long long time before this happened. GRS is a procedure done after at least a couple years of hormones and living as the opposite sex.

He was being called Mister, and lived as such, for a long time prior to the actual surgical procedure.

[dragon]

At least its nice to see the school board doing the right thing as how often do we see the board acting as pricks. As too the parents, they're idiots a transgenered person is no more dangerous to their kids as a black person, a gay person etc. I've seen plenty of straight so called normal people that cause more trouble than a 100 gay people. Hell look at Hitler, Musslini, Stalin they were what these parents would call normal and look how deluded they were.

[Metatwaddle]

To all the people saying the parents have the right to know if the teacher has some personal and irrelevant trait that might bother them because they're bigots, consider the following scenario. A group of parents don't want their kids to have an atheist music teacher, and when it comes out that the teacher is an atheist, the parents say they don't have a problem with the fact that the music teacher is an atheist, they're just bothered that they weren't told. This is also self-evidently bullshit. A teacher's religion is irrelevant to his ability to teach; the same goes for transsexual status. Even if we grant that sex reassignment surgery is an obvious change that all the students will notice, which I don't think is always true, it doesn't follow that the school district has some ethical or legal obligation to, I don't know, send out a newsletter or something.

[Twoyboy]

To all the people saying the parents have the right to know if the teacher has some personal and irrelevant trait that might bother them because they're bigots, consider the following scenario. A group of parents don't want their kids to have an atheist music teacher, and when it comes out that the teacher is an atheist, the parents say they don't have a problem with the fact that the music teacher is an atheist, they're just bothered that they weren't told. This is also self-evidently bullshit. A teacher's religion is irrelevant to his ability to teach; the same goes for transsexual status. Even if we grant that sex reassignment surgery is an obvious change that all the students will notice, which I don't think is always true, it doesn't follow that the school district has some ethical or legal obligation to, I don't know, send out a newsletter or something.

Problem is, that example has no noticeable change from one person to the next or year to the next. If my child was in this school, I'd have liked to have been informed so I could have a response ready for the question "Why does Mrs Smith now want to be called Mr Smith?"

The real bigotry in the article is only apparent from the final line. The majority of parents pulled their kids out of the class. They may claim to only be angry because they weren't told, but this betrays their true feelings.

[Vendetta]

Problem is, that example has no noticeable change from one person to the next or year to the next. If my child was in this school, I'd have liked to have been informed so I could have a response ready for the question "Why does Mrs Smith now want to be called Mr Smith?"

That's not even a real argument though. Either someone is a rational person who is aware, if not of the specifics, at least of the concept of transgenderism, and can simply say that some people feel the need to change their birth gender, or you're a rabid fundie nutter who has an inbuilt preprepared answer anyway, condemning the godless heathens.

[RIPP_n_WIPE]

I don't have a problem with the parents reaction.

Justify their bigotry.

Don't need to since that's not what I was trying to defend. However if I must it pretty much goes like this. Parents get the right to choose, when they can choose, what kind of environments their children learn, play, eat, do whatever in. School is no different. If they'd wanted to remove their kid from a class because the teacher was Jewish or disabled or "looked funny" they'd have the right to. I'm not saying the motivation behind it is correct nor would I do it myself but I don't think they acted outside of their sphere of control. Now had they asked to have the teacher removed from teaching, that'd be a different story.

If they were a responsible parent they'd have tried to meet all the teachers their kids had and say "Hi I'm Johns father. Nice to meet you. Where are you from?" and might have found out first hand and then made a desicion.

Parents of children in public schools do not micromanage their child's teachers. Responsible ones meet them yes, but barring religious or racial bigotry tend not to withdraw their kids from a teachers class unless the individual is a shitty teacher or does things like burn crosses into the flesh of their kids.

Where am I saying micromanage? I'm saying try to get to know your childs teacher. Parents would be fine to say something to the effect of "John has asthma please don't run him to hard." or "John has autism so he might have a little trouble fitting in." or other things that a parent might let a teacher know about their child and express a concern over it while the child is in the teachers charge, there is no reason to micromanage as in telling the teacher how to do their job. If a parent had a particular concern over a portion of the teachers background, they'd do well to discuss it with them. Not to force or sway the teacher, but to inform themselves and let the teacher know that they might have a problem.

However I do believe that the school should have told them.

Why? Why the fuck should the parents know? What business of it is theirs that someone took the final legal step of GRS? I guarantee you the kids were calling him Mr. long before the GRS procedure.

See the above. If the kids were calling the teacher him before the operation, then the parents were idiots in not noticing it and asking the teacher about it beforehand.

Not everyone is going to react the same way, whether they be right or wrong and they have the right in order to be informed about what's going on so they can make the best desicion for their children.

This implies that a transman is a potentially inferior teacher. Either justify this, or back down.

No it doesn't. It implies that the parents, for whatever reason they choose, don't want their children in that environment. That is to say the classroom of a transgendered teacher. I should have said "make the desicion they think is best for their children."

[Vendetta]

No it doesn't. It implies that the parents, for whatever reason they choose, don't want their children in that environment. That is to say the classroom of a transgendered teacher.

Why is the "environment" of the classroom of a transgender teacher different from that of a teacher who still has the gender they were born in?

[RIPP_n_WIPE]

I don't have a problem with the parents reaction. They were going to find out somehow. If they were a responsible parent they'd have tried to meet all the teachers their kids had and say "Hi I'm Johns father. Nice to meet you. Where are you from?" and might have found out first hand and then made a desicion.

Uh, is this common practise in your schools? It's really not here.

Really? I was raised that it's important to get to know your childs teachers. Or do they not have parent teacher confrences in your area?

However I do believe that the school should have told them.

They should probably tell them when they break up with their spouses in case they dislike the idea of divorcees teaching their kids too. Or when they're gay. Or when they're a different religion. Or grew up without a father. Or mixed race. Of course, none of these things have anything to do with whether the person is a decent teacher or not, but why should that have any impact on whether they should be able teach?

Where do you see me saying that it's related to teacher ability or whether or not they should be able to teach? Please counter or debate my actual argument and not one you fabricate and say I am arguing.

No most of those cases are entirely private. That is to say none of that info will ever reach the classroom.

I generally conform to the rule of "If you don't know it can't hurt you" for things like that. However if something does come out publicly and it is; for what ever reason, a concern, then the school does need to say something about it. Not everyone is going to react the same way, whether they be right or wrong and they have the right in order to be informed about what's going on so they can make the best desicion for their children.

So you think if it can't hurt them and they have no business knowing it, you think they should tell all the parents in case they're retarded bigots? What the hell happened to data protection? You get busted here for that sort of sharing of information.

The only reason I'm saying so is because it has become public. It's not just private anymore. The teacher requested to be called Mr. instead of Ms. and had a visible change in appearance. If there was no change at all, none, than I wouldn't say anything.

[RIPP_n_WIPE]

No it doesn't. It implies that the parents, for whatever reason they choose, don't want their children in that environment. That is to say the classroom of a transgendered teacher.

Why is the "environment" of the classroom of a transgender teacher different from that of a teacher who still has the gender they were born in?

Who knows why a parent wouldn't want their kid in that class? Maybe they think of it as a sin. Maybe they don't like transgendered folks. Their reason is inconsequential. The fact is they as parents get to choose who their child meets, what their child does, where their child goes, especially when it comes to learning.

I went through the same crap in middle school in regards to holidays and birthday parties. My mom didn't want me participating in them so she'd ask the school if I could go to the library if I was in a class that was doing that for the day.

[Vendetta]

The only reason I'm saying so is because it has become public. It's not just private anymore. The teacher requested to be called Mr. instead of Ms. and had a visible change in appearance. If there was no change at all, none, than I wouldn't say anything.

That doesn't change the legal responsibilities of the school in regards to the data they hold on their employees in any way at all.

[Lord Woodlouse]

Don't need to since that's not what I was trying to defend. However if I must it pretty much goes like this. Parents get the right to choose, when they can choose, what kind of environments their children learn, play, eat, do whatever in. School is no different. If they'd wanted to remove their kid from a class because the teacher was Jewish or disabled or "looked funny" they'd have the right to. I'm not saying the motivation behind it is correct nor would I do it myself but I don't think they acted outside of their sphere of control. Now had they asked to have the teacher removed from teaching, that'd be a different story.

Here in the UK if someone tried to remove their child from an individual class because their teacher was "Jewish or looked funny" they be quite politely told to fuck off. If they wanted to make that choice, they'd have to find a whole different school.

Where am I saying micromanage? I'm saying try to get to know your childs teacher. Parents would be fine to say something to the effect of "John has asthma please don't run him to hard." or "John has autism so he might have a little trouble fitting in." or other things that a parent might let a teacher know about their child and express a concern over it while the child is in the teachers charge, there is no reason to micromanage as in telling the teacher how to do their job. If a parent had a particular concern over a portion of the teachers background, they'd do well to discuss it with them. Not to force or sway the teacher, but to inform themselves and let the teacher know that they might have a problem.

Parents can say that kind of stuff because they are the legal guardians of their children. Frankly I'm astounded someone hasn't already thrown a ton of bricks at you for comparing "My child has asthma, go easy on him" to "By the way, your teacher is a transsexual who used to be a woman, just thought you might want to know". For one thing that information, which a parent has a right to give, actually makes a difference to how they might perform at school while a teacher formally being a woman (which a school does NOT have a right to go throwing around without the consent of said teacher) has no bearing on his capability as a teacher.

If a parent has a concern over this stuff, they should talk about it privately with the teacher himself. Not by proxy through the school secretary.

No it doesn't. It implies that the parents, for whatever reason they choose, don't want their children in that environment. That is to say the classroom of a transgendered teacher. I should have said "make the desicion they think is best for their children."

...and I highly doubt informing them would make any difference, except likely make the teacher feel betrayed by his employer. Mike is no doubt correct that this is simple bigotry using the cover of a right to information. It's not the school's place to debate the nature of one of their employee's transsexualism. Frankly it would be terribly frightening if it WAS something they could debate, because that would serve as a terrible precedent for schools and other employers making things that really aren't any of their business, their business.

[General Zod]

Where am I saying micromanage? I'm saying try to get to know your childs teacher. Parents would be fine to say something to the effect of "John has asthma please don't run him to hard." or "John has autism so he might have a little trouble fitting in." or other things that a parent might let a teacher know about their child and express a concern over it while the child is in the teachers charge, there is no reason to micromanage as in telling the teacher how to do their job. If a parent had a particular concern over a portion of the teachers background, they'd do well to discuss it with them. Not to force or sway the teacher, but to inform themselves and let the teacher know that they might have a problem.

Utter bullshit. The parents do not have the right to know every little private detail about the teachers at their child's school, and quite frankly I fail to see why "Is my child's teacher a tg" any significantly different from "Is my child's teacher Christian/black/Jewish/whatever?". It's completely unreasonable to expect a school to inform parents of every little detail regarding their teachers that the parents might be offended by. Should they inform parents who happen to belong to the KKK that one of their teachers is black too?

No it doesn't. It implies that the parents, for whatever reason they choose, don't want their children in that environment. That is to say the classroom of a transgendered teacher. I should have said "make the desicion they think is best for their children."

How is this supposed to change the fact that the parents are bigoted douchebags?

[Darth Wong]

Really? I was raised that it's important to get to know your childs teachers. Or do they not have parent teacher confrences in your area?

You don't know jack shit about interacting with teachers as a parent, so stop pretending that you do. I have attended parent teacher conferences ever since my son was in kindergarten, and I always ask questions about the education plan and my child's performance. Not once have I ever felt the need to ask about a teacher's personal life, because it is irrelevant to the purpose of the parent/teacher conference.

Stop spouting off about subjects you obviously don't understand and have clearly not examined in an intelligent way.

[Broomstick]

If Miss Smith gets married over the summer and is returning to the school as Mrs. Jones then the parents might be notified as a courtesy. If Miss Smith has a sex change operation over the summer and returns to school as Mr. Smith again, notification of name change would be a courtesy.

Anything else is arguably private and no one is under obligation to discuss it. As others have pointed out, this didn't happen overnight. Presumably, "Mr. Smith" has been dressing/living as male for quite some time.

[RIPP_n_WIPE]

Lord Woodlouse

Don't need to since that's not what I was trying to defend. However if I must it pretty much goes like this. Parents get the right to choose, when they can choose, what kind of environments their children learn, play, eat, do whatever in. School is no different. If they'd wanted to remove their kid from a class because the teacher was Jewish or disabled or "looked funny" they'd have the right to. I'm not saying the motivation behind it is correct nor would I do it myself but I don't think they acted outside of their sphere of control. Now had they asked to have the teacher removed from teaching, that'd be a different story.

Here in the UK if someone tried to remove their child from an individual class because their teacher was "Jewish or looked funny" they be quite politely told to fuck off. If they wanted to make that choice, they'd have to find a whole different school.

I'm sure they would but it is entirely the parents prerogative to do so.

Where am I saying micromanage? I'm saying try to get to know your childs teacher. Parents would be fine to say something to the effect of "John has asthma please don't run him to hard." or "John has autism so he might have a little trouble fitting in." or other things that a parent might let a teacher know about their child and express a concern over it while the child is in the teachers charge, there is no reason to micromanage as in telling the teacher how to do their job. If a parent had a particular concern over a portion of the teachers background, they'd do well to discuss it with them. Not to force or sway the teacher, but to inform themselves and let the teacher know that they might have a problem.

Parents can say that kind of stuff because they are the legal guardians of their children. Frankly I'm astounded someone hasn't already thrown a ton of bricks at you for comparing "My child has asthma, go easy on him" to "By the way, your teacher is a transsexual who used to be a woman, just thought you might want to know". For one thing that information, which a parent has a right to give, actually makes a difference to how they might perform at school while a teacher formally being a woman (which a school does NOT have a right to go throwing around without the consent of said teacher) has no bearing on his capability as a teacher.

No you are incorrect. I was not comparing "My child has asthma" to "You teacher is tg". I mentioned it to show where micromanagement regarding the child might actually be necessary and used as my original statement was being misinterpreted as some form of micromanagement.

If a parent has a concern over this stuff, they should talk about it privately with the teacher himself. Not by proxy through the school secretary.

I agree wholly. However I do think that something like that which is rather out of the ordinary and could most assuredly cause the child to be confused about the situation should be discretely divulged to parents by the administration once the teacher returns to teaching and the teachers subsequent change is public knowledge.

No it doesn't. It implies that the parents, for whatever reason they choose, don't want their children in that environment. That is to say the classroom of a transgendered teacher. I should have said "make the desicion they think is best for their children."

...and I highly doubt informing them would make any difference, except likely make the teacher feel betrayed by his employer. Mike is no doubt correct that this is simple bigotry using the cover of a right to information. It's not the school's place to debate the nature of one of their employee's transsexualism. Frankly it would be terribly frightening if it WAS something they could debate, because that would serve as a terrible precedent for schools and other employers making things that really aren't any of their business, their business.

I'm not suggesting debate nor give all the information regarding the teachers transsexualism. Simply once the fact that Ms. was now Mr. and that information was obviously public.

General Zod

Utter bullshit. The parents do not have the right to know every little private detail about the teachers at their child's school, and quite frankly I fail to see why "Is my child's teacher a tg" any significantly different from "Is my child's teacher Christian/black/Jewish/whatever?". It's completely unreasonable to expect a school to inform parents of every little detail regarding their teachers that the parents might be offended by. Should they inform parents who happen to belong to the KKK that one of their teachers is black too?

I'm not suggesting every little private detail. I'm talking about general info about the teacher and other questions regarding curriculum and where the teacher was educated. I would assume that the change from Mr. to Ms. if your child was continuing to remain in the class would be courtesy. After that new students and new parents wouldn't need to know since it was already established that the teacher was now being referred to in the other gender.

How is this supposed to change the fact that the parents are bigoted douchebags?

It doesn't and that wasn't my point. My point was that even if they are bigoted douche bags (which I'd assume they are) they still have the right as parents to say "I'm don't want my child to be around that". What happens after I could care less about.


Darth Wong

You don't know jack shit about interacting with teachers as a parent, so stop pretending that you do. I have attended parent teacher conferences ever since my son was in kindergarten, and I always ask questions about the education plan and my child's performance. Not once have I ever felt the need to ask about a teacher's personal life, because it is irrelevant to the purpose of the parent/teacher conference.

Stop spouting off about subjects you obviously don't understand and have clearly not examined in an intelligent way.

I do realize that my question sounded a bit argumentative. That was not; however, the intent.

My only experience in this matter has been observing my mother and other parents at conferences. In addition while you may not have ever felt the need to make surface level inquiries about teachers personal life, most of those parents I have seen always try and know a bit more about the teacher, whether it be at the school or outside. The often seem to like to know the personality of their child's educator. My mother expressed this to me as being very important since I would be spending much of my time with those people. In addition a similar attitude has been expressed by parents who converse amongst themselves. This objective is probably biased though. Most likely because I've never lived in a large city where the chance of running into the teacher of your child at the store or other public place is slim.

Broomstick

If Miss Smith gets married over the summer and is returning to the school as Mrs. Jones then the parents might be notified as a courtesy. If Miss Smith has a sex change operation over the summer and returns to school as Mr. Smith again, notification of name change would be a courtesy.

Anything else is arguably private and no one is under obligation to discuss it. As others have pointed out, this didn't happen overnight. Presumably, "Mr. Smith" has been dressing/living as male for quite some time.

That is essentially what I am attempting to say however without the assumption that the teacher had been calling them self, dressing them self, and referring to them self in the opposite gender for some time and taking it entirely in context of the article that it happened at the beginning of the school year without any kind of prior information regarding.

[Alyrium Denryle]

I should have said "make the desicion they think is best for their children.

Yeah, you should have. But you didnt. And just because they think it is in the best interests of their children does not make it true, nor does it impose any obligations on the school district or the teacher who should not be beholden to the parent's dumbfuckery.

Don't need to since that's not what I was trying to defend.

Actually you are. You are saying you have no problem with the reaction of the parents, which is one of bigotry. Do you honestly think they are being honest about withdrawing their kids from the class in protest over not being informed? That is such a transparent cover for not wanting to admit in public that they hate transexuals and think them monsters that it is not worth mentioning.

School is no different.

Once they put their kids into a public school they consent to the rules and laws that govern that school. If they want to be bigoted trogolodytes they should put their kids in a Baptist school.

Once they accept public schooling they lose their right to be discriminatory save in cases of malice and incompetence.

I'm saying try to get to know your childs teacher.

Which is not at issue here. What is at issue here is bigots objecting to a transman teaching their kids.

If a parent had a particular concern over a portion of the teachers background, they'd do well to discuss it with them. Not to force or sway the teacher, but to inform themselves and let the teacher know that they might have a problem.

Then ask the teacher. Be responsible. Dont mandate that the state disclose information a priori to the parents about the teacher's private medical records.

You dont seem to understand the GDI is a disorder. GRS is the treatment. You are demanding that the school violate Dr./Patient confidentiality.

If the kids were calling the teacher him before the operation, then the parents were idiots in not noticing it and asking the teacher about it beforehand.

You often cant tell a pre-op transman from a post-op transman unless you look at the genitals. The change was probably only one of official documentation. The name change would have been done years in advance. Once the GRS is done, the teacher would officially be a man, and stop being called Ms. X and would be called Mr X on school schedules and the like.

The teacher probably brushed it off for years as a clerical error.

[General Zod]

I'm not suggesting every little private detail. I'm talking about general info about the teacher and other questions regarding curriculum and where the teacher was educated. I would assume that the change from Mr. to Ms. if your child was continuing to remain in the class would be courtesy. After that new students and new parents wouldn't need to know since it was already established that the teacher was now being referred to in the other gender.

Should the school tell them their teacher is Asian, black or Hispanic too?

It doesn't and that wasn't my point. My point was that even if they are bigoted douche bags (which I'd assume they are) they still have the right as parents to say "I'm don't want my child to be around that". What happens after I could care less about.

The last I checked, segregation was neither tolerated nor a "right". That is effectively what you're supporting here.

[Kanastrous]

You dont seem to understand the GDI is a disorder. GRS is the treatment. You are demanding that the school violate Dr./Patient confidentiality.

Side question - is GDI classified as a medical disorder, a psychiatric one, both, or neither?

[Alyrium Denryle]

You dont seem to understand the GDI is a disorder. GRS is the treatment. You are demanding that the school violate Dr./Patient confidentiality.

Side question - is GDI classified as a medical disorder, a psychiatric one, both, or neither?

There really isnt a distinction... psychiatry is a branch of medicine... and I fucked up the acronym. It is GID... damn transpositions

[The Duchess of Zeon]

Who knows why a parent wouldn't want their kid in that class? Maybe they think of it as a sin. Maybe they don't like transgendered folks. Their reason is inconsequential. The fact is they as parents get to choose who their child meets, what their child does, where their child goes, especially when it comes to learning.

But they should not be allowed to. It is state-mandated education, and the children should be forced to adapt to the realities of life in the form of the nature of their child. Bigotry or views of sinfulness are irrelevant (or should be ideally) to l'etat. The state has a vested interest in creating healthy and developed individuals, and that means freeing them of their parents' bigotry. The only problem here--the ONLY problem, because the school's response is exemplary--is that the children were not mandated to remain in the class against the inane bigotries of their parents.