SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread III

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Citizens of every single other country on the globe are abducted several times a year. Abducted, disappear, etc, etc. Why should you be any different?

I think what he meant was to be kidnapped by a foreigner and brought out of the country.

[Steve]

Likely. And I doubt the CSR has the problem that modern Russia has with kidnappers who take pretty girls and ship them overseas for forced prostitution.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Likely. And I doubt the CSR has the problem that modern Russia has with kidnappers who take pretty girls and ship them overseas for forced prostitution.

My border police will be having a fucking field day catching one smuggler after another.

Not least the Border States... ugh...

[RogueIce]

On the CVN thing, obviously our countries know how to build the things, since we, you know, do build the things. Or are we back to the "because the players don't know the insides and outsides of something, our countries are therefore filled with bumbling idiots" crap? Or does that only apply to the MESS?

I build my carriers with the goal of a new one every four years. If that means there's more going on in the background because that's how things work, then there's more going on in the background. Sorry if I am not an expert in CVN construction. Luckily, I have people in my country who are.

I don't know what Canissia, Tian Xia, the Old Dominion or Byzantium do with their fleets. Wilkonia builds hers with me so there you go. I take my 'phibs from him so one could assume that where he might otherwise be building CVNs he's instead building LHDs, LSDs, LPDs, etc.

As far as losses incurred, keeping in mind the MESS is not some super state, you have to look at that on a nation-by-nation basis. So the ODN is rebuilding theirs, Serenity seems content to wait for the joint CVA-04 project with Cascadia, and Wilkonia isn't that concerned since they went carrier heavy in the first place.

As far as international joint projects go, you can say the same thing any time the SNC or FTO have one of theirs going on. Or is this again something that only comes into play when it affects the MESS in a negative way? Or maybe our countries have figured out a way to do it with some rising costs but not an entire boondoggle? This game is hardly 100% realism (except when someone wants it to be to screw somebody else) so unless everybody wants to get super anal retentive because we can just live with some of it?

I'd expect you to be more fair. Japanistan has not fired a single shot during the war with Shep. That's not "alliance" - that's more like economic and military help, but still - it's a proxy war not a direct war.

If not an alliance than what? A Japanistan puppet state? A useful proxy for when Japanistan wants to say "screw you" to the world without getting their hands dirty?

Whatever you do or do not want to call their relationship, either way I think it'd be fair to say that when it comes to Shepistan, Japanistan is not a neutral entity. Alliance, proxy, puppet, whatever.

[PeZook]

You guys still haven't figured it out?

They're using Shepistan as a sponge, since Shep seems content to pick fights with Lonestar, and every CVN sunk and aircraft downed by Shepistan is one less available to threaten Japanistan.

At the same time, they're keeping them at arm's length, having a "treaty of eternal friendship", but stopping short of calling it an alliance.

[K. A. Pital]

I think it'd be fair to say that when it comes to Shepistan, Japanistan is not a neutral entity

That is true. But at least he maintained legal neutrality, unlike last time when he formally joined into a single nation with Shep.

[RogueIce]

You guys still haven't figured it out?

They're using Shepistan as a sponge, since Shep seems content to pick fights with Lonestar, and every CVN sunk and aircraft downed by Shepistan is one less available to threaten Japanistan.

At the same time, they're keeping them at arm's length, having a "treaty of eternal friendship", but stopping short of calling it an alliance.

Oh sure, we knew that. Though I think the way it was put is that Shepistan is Skimmer's "attack dog".

But all that aside, anyone saying Japanistan is neutral WRT Shepistan is just lying or very deluded. Hence that whole "we ignored the Japanistan ceasefire" thing during the One Week War. And probably why we'd consider them something very close to one entity, even if we wouldn't attack Japanistan over something Shepistan does.

Though if all their resupply in some theoretical future conflict happens to come from the direction of Japanistan, we wouldn't be at all surprised.

[PeZook]

BTW, Frank The Elephant is one mean motherfucker

And elephants weigh way more than one ton: between three and eight (!!!) for the biggest specimens.

[Coyote]

So, Japanistan is like Michael Vick, and Shepistan is like Rover the Beat-Angry Pitbull. Without lipstick.

What I find odd is the bizarre hard-on they have for fucking with the MESS in general. Very little has been done against other states (the cable-cutting incident) but when it comes to the MESS players, they get that eyes-glazed Rage Virus look and start foaming at the mouth. Even when it is demonstrated that, when left alone, the MESS pretty much is isolationist there's still that insistence to provoke.

[DarthShady]

BTW, Frank The Elephant is one mean motherfucker

And elephants weigh way more than one ton: between three and eight (!!!) for the biggest specimens.

Maybe this was a baby elephant.

[PeZook]

Maybe this was a baby elephant.

*gasp*

Shroomania trains babies to be ruthless living battering rams!

[DarthShady]

Maybe this was a baby elephant.

*gasp*

Shroomania trains babies to be ruthless living battering rams!

Does that really surprise you?

[Coyote]

Child Soldiers! Will no one think of the Pachyderm children?

[RogueIce]

Personally I'm rather happy with the end of my post explaining the origins of PeZookian Heritage Day in the Shinra Republic.

[Norseman]

Personally I'm rather happy with the end of my post explaining the origins of PeZookian Heritage Day in the Shinra Republic.

Is that when everyone takes the day off to run into the fields, and pick strawberries?

[PeZook]

Is that when everyone takes the day off to run into the fields, and pick strawberries?

Yeah, and then they go and stuff their faces with pork chops and complain loudly about everything they see!

...smartass

[Grand Moff Yenchin]

The entire fucking point of DARPA is to fund research which promises major gains eve if on dubious technological grounds, not buy finished products. Is this hard to wrap your head around? They had every reason to want something like this, its from a defacto allied country, and more then enough money to blow on it… and no interest. Sounds like a scam to me, and the world abounds with R&D investment scams as well as random scientists simply making fantastic claims to keep their cushy university jobs.

Wow. More "no interest = scam" rants.

To round if off, not one thing can be found on this supposedly totally revolutionary device which they claim will detect bioagents and toxic chemicals from ANY sample outside of a narrow window in 2006. They claimed they had a demonstrator working in 2006 too, so where the fuck is it after two more years?

Fine, retconned.

[Coyote]

Fine, retconned.

Why? I mean, a proposed biopen that may or may not be buildable is peanuts compared to, say, a 90-ton sooper-uber tank -- which could, conceivably, actually be built with today's technolgy but... for some odd reason, isn't considered worth the cost & effort.

[Steve]

I think the gist of the argument is that the BioPen is impossible with current technology, not just something highly improbable for most states save hypermilitaristic ones.

[Master_Baerne]

Nice battle, SiegeTank. At least ten points for awesome writing.

[Karmic Knight]

Stas Bush: Would now be a good time to visit the Crimson Star Republic for King Brandon?

Coyote: Is Canissia open for after that?

[Raj Ahten]

BTW the sort of gas my intel goes are talking about using are agents similiar to thse used in the moscow theatre hostage crisis, at least in their affects.

I also have to say that I am now in work a hell of a lot more than I have been recently, and that is definitely going to cut into my online time in the future.

[K. A. Pital]

Would now be a good time to visit the Crimson Star Republic for King Brandon?

Go ahead. Purpose of visit?

[Karmic Knight]

Go ahead. Purpose of visit?

Spreading the word that the Fing Continent isn't a backwater shithole, establishing nice, healthy economic ties, overall getting some good PR for the FTO and the Vineyards in a major power in the old continent.

[TimothyC]

Alaska Will be holding a competition for a new Medium-Heavy Fighter to replace the F-101s and F-105s!

I'll need bids.