Similarities between Revan and Thrawn?
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Re: Similarities between Revan and Thrawn?
Thrawn's cloned forces were not significant yet. The facility on Wayland was a testbed for a long-term, comprehensive operation; the threat it represented to the galaxy at large was largely escalatory, not immediately relevant on the strategic scale. But months or years down the line, as infrastructure gets set up and the kinks worked out, Thrawn's forces would have a massive surge in cheap, reliable and readily available personnel. It's like the Manhattan Project versus having the whole Cold War arsenal up and running.
Re: Similarities between Revan and Thrawn?
No they really didn't. You are just making this conclusion because they are practically the only 2 EU villains who aren't sociopaths who are hit by the dumb bat repeatedly and actually have a credibility in whereby you actually think of them as a threat due to their lack of the for mentioned traits that 99% of the other villains the EU has excreted into print over the years.The Romulan Republic wrote:Of course, I can easily understand the makers of KOTOR basing their hero partly on such a popular EU character.
I would agree that this was the result of Thrawn's cloning - enforced by the limits of Wayland and it's finite production line - however wasn't there a quote in TLC where Thrawn was saying about expanding it? Or was this (proposed) expansion in regards to just more specialised clones i.e. C'boath?Thanas wrote:I would wager this to be the reason why we mostly see clone templates of fighter pilotes and stormtroopers, both highly specialized and elite formations compared to ordinary spacers.Publius wrote:he counterrevolutionary leadership's fright at the prospect of Thrawn's use of cloning is either the product of poor mathematics or moral panic, but certainly not logistical realities.
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Re: Similarities between Revan and Thrawn?
Well the context of his conditional offer of surrender to Ukio, that the Empire no longer would need conscription in the future - certainly implies that Thrawn's Empire would eventually acquire at least as much manpower from cloning cylinders as they had from conscription.
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Re: Similarities between Revan and Thrawn?
No bullshit, but it warms my heart that you didn't take a 'ZMOG Zhan's a minimalist' approach to the above!Illuminatus Primus wrote:Well the context of his conditional offer of surrender to Ukio, that the Empire no longer would need conscription in the future - certainly implies that Thrawn's Empire would eventually acquire at least as much manpower from cloning cylinders as they had from conscription.
But I'm sure there was a line in TLC when Thrawn was talking about it with Palleaon, but I don't have the book on me so I can't check whether it was a general expansion of cloning or just C'boath specific.
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Re: Similarities between Revan and Thrawn?
IIRC Thrawn mentions that he would like to clone C'baoth and have the clone raised on a planet in the unknown regions in an attempt to reduce/avoid the instanity that then clone Joruus C'baoth had. I don't believe that there is mention of expanding general clone production.Crown wrote:No bullshit, but it warms my heart that you didn't take a 'ZMOG Zhan's a minimalist' approach to the above!Illuminatus Primus wrote:Well the context of his conditional offer of surrender to Ukio, that the Empire no longer would need conscription in the future - certainly implies that Thrawn's Empire would eventually acquire at least as much manpower from cloning cylinders as they had from conscription.
But I'm sure there was a line in TLC when Thrawn was talking about it with Palleaon, but I don't have the book on me so I can't check whether it was a general expansion of cloning or just C'boath specific.
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Re: Similarities between Revan and Thrawn?
Just because they do not talk about it doesn't mean that they would not have done so after the victory at Bilbringi, because after all we just see a tiny glimpse of the Thrawn campaign and cloning really was a viable option with the speed and great results available after the Yalsamiri trick.
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