Darth Wong wrote:Count Chocula wrote:Why would what the rest of the world thinks influence the American voter?
If the average American voter were not a complete imbecile, he would recognize that if the rest of the world hates McCain, then we should take the oft-repeated "foreign policy is McCain's strength" line as the bullshit that it is. It's pretty hard to say that you're the guy who can best work with other nations if the people of those other nations hate you.
Foreign Policy is McCain's strength?!?! What a bunch of hooey!
http://www.nysun.com/national/mccains-f ... dth/72988/
WASHINGTON — Like no other candidate, Senator McCain has linked his campaign for president to an unpopular war — and to a lifelong focus on foreign issues that many voters ignore.
Mr. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, became famous as a Vietnam prisoner of war and has spent his long Senate career traveling to more foreign countries than most people could even name.
He makes his eighth trip to Iraq this weekend, a visit sure to get a lot of attention. But his weeklong overseas trip also includes Israel, Britain, and France — all countries where he's made many visits.
A defiant supporter of the 2003 invasion and President Bush's troop increase last year, Mr. McCain is likely to focus in Iraq on the drop in sectarian violence and American and civilian casualties since last summer.
His own situation has changed strikingly, too, since then. Now he's the Republican presidential nominee-in-waiting.
Last April, as Mr. McCain's chances for winning the nomination seemed uncertain, the four-term Arizona senator toured a Baghdad marketplace, hailing the progress even though he was protected by three Black Hawk helicopters, two Apache gunships and 100 U.S. troops.
He was widely ridiculed as being out of touch.
As he returns, a new Pentagon study shows sectarian violence down 90% and American and civilian casualties down 70% since last July.
Last December, nearly two-thirds of Americans said they opposed the war, including nearly a third of Republicans and nearly all Democrats, according to an Associated Press-Yahoo News poll. Opinions on the war have remained basically steady.
However, a poll released Friday by NBC News and The Wall Street Journal said about 35% of those questioned think Mr. McCain has the right approach for Iraq, compared with 30% for Senator Clinton and 27% for Senator Obama.
Mr. McCain calls the fight against Islamic extremism the "transcendent challenge of the 21st century."
"I've made it abundantly clear that I would much rather lose a campaign than a war," he said this week in New Hampshire.
The one may be tied to the other.
Says a foreign policy analyst at the Brookings Institution, Michael O'Hanlon: "I have a hard time seeing how he wins if Iraq falls apart between now and November, and I have a hard time seeing how the Democrats use Iraq against him over that time if things continue to improve."
As Democrats Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama fight over which of them has the credentials to be the next commander in chief, Mr. McCain offers a much lengthier foreign policy and military resume.
Now 71, he was born in the Canal Zone, where his father, a naval officer, was stationed. A graduate of the Naval Academy, Mr. McCain flew in Vietnam and was a prisoner of war for more than five years. In the Senate, he is the senior Republican on the Armed Services Committee.
He has visited every region of the world, including Antarctica and the Arctic Circle, and frequently meets with leaders of the countries to which he's traveled, both when he visits their countries and when they visit the United States.
Mr. McCain has been across the world so many times that aides named off the tops of their heads some 69 countries he's visited — including Azerbaijan, Estonia, Laos, and Palau — and warned the list was far from exhaustive.
Aides say he keeps up to speed on the politics and policies of many nations — a passion he regularly displays to reporters traveling with him — and understands the long-term ramifications of having well-established personal relationships with foreign leaders.
He makes it a point to meet with up-and-comers, too. Aides say he met Angela Merkel at a Munich conference several years ago before she became German chancellor. In summer 2004, Mr. McCain met at a restaurant with Viktor Yushchenko before the Orange Revolution when he was elected Ukrainian president.
Next week, Mr. McCain is expected to meet with Prime Minister Brown of Britain for the first time, and President Sarkozy of France for the third time. He met and corresponded with Mr. Sarkozy both before and after he was elected. The two last saw each other last summer.
Mr. McCain has relationships with every leader in Israel he plans to see, including Prime Minister Olmert, the foreign minister, Tzipi Livni, the defense minister, Ehud Barak, and the hawkish opposition leader, Benjamin Netanyahu.
The senator last met with Prime Minister al-Maliki of Iraq last Thanksgiving, and he's also gotten to know other members of the Iraqi government.
He returns with two of his chief presidential supporters, Senators Lieberman, an Independent of Connecticut, and Graham, a Republican of South Carolina, but he insists it is a fact-finding venture, not a campaign photo opportunity.
"There's nothing like being on the ground," he said. Mentioning a mountainous area in northwestern Pakistan, he added, "I went to Waziristan once and it gave me a much better understanding of how difficult it is to get Osama bin Laden."
The Brookings analyst who says he's a Democrat, Mr. O'Hanlon, says Mr. McCain has shown a more realistic vision than Mr. Bush about the number of troops needed to succeed in Iraq, as well as the problems that were likely to be encountered after the invasion.
"What that tells me in terms of future policy is McCain may be willing to stay the course, so to speak, in terms of future difficulties, but also assess if the strategy is really working or not," Mr. O'Hanlon said.
A former Bush administration aide who now runs the Middle East program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, Jon Alterman, notes that Bush's father spoke of "the vision thing."
"This president has always been strong on the vision thing, even when the implementation is lacking. I don't think John McCain is enamored with the vision thing. He talks about the task and focuses on the task. It's just a different orientation," Mr. Alterman said.
"The straight talk express is not often associated with diplomacy," he said. "But the advantage of it is you know what you're getting. And it may be that he's able to form quite valuable relationships precisely because of his bluntness."
Or better yet.... forget about the bipartisan efforts to normalize relations with Viet Nam.... the AP lies!!!!
http://asianweek.com/2001_10_12/biz_viet1.html
Congress completed work on an agreement normalizing trade between the United States and Vietnam, and President Bush is expected to sign the measure.
The Senate’s 88-12 vote on Oct. 3 “represents an important step in the healing process” between the two former enemies, said the Senate Finance Committee chairman, Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., “a step that has been a long time in coming.”
The House endorsed the measure last month, and Bush said he would sign it.
The trade agreement, negotiated by the Clinton administration last year, “will provide American companies with access to a large and growing market, and, through the reforms it promotes, will help create a more prosperous and engaged Vietnam,” Bush said in a statement after the Senate vote.
Vietnam would benefit from the same low tariffs the United States sets for its other trading partners. In return, Vietnam is to reduce its tariffs, eliminate non-tariff barriers, protect intellectual property rights and open its markets to American service and investment companies.
The United States and Vietnam had no formal relations and limited contacts in the two decades after U.S. troops left Vietnam in 1973. In 1994, President Clinton lifted the trade embargo and the next year he established diplomatic relations. In 1998, he issued the first waiver making commercial deals with Vietnam eligible for U.S. government loans and credit guarantees.
But Vietnam has remained one of only six nations denied normal trade relations, subjecting Vietnamese goods to far higher tariffs. The other countries are Afghanistan, Cuba, North Korea, Laos and former Yugoslavia.
Vietnam is the world’s 14th-most-populous nation, with 80 million people, but trade with the United States was only about $1.2 billion last year. Estimates are that Vietnam’s exports to the United States, mainly shrimp, coffee and light manufactured goods, could more than double with normal trade relations.
Opposition to the deal came mainly from lawmakers who asserted that Vietnam has not fully cooperated in accounting for MIAs from the Vietnam War and should not be entitled to normal trade because of its poor human rights record.
“If those who want to normalize relations with Vietnam choose to ignore the numerous human rights violations of that country, is that right?” asked Sen. Bob Smith, R-N.H.
Concerns were also raised by Mississippi Delta senators, who said the agreement lacked protections for the catfish industry. Vietnamese imports, said Sen. Tim Hutchinson, R-Ark., are “absolutely destroying our domestic catfish industry.”
Leading the effort to normalize ties with Vietnam were three senators who served in the Vietnam War: Sens. John Kerry, D-Mass., Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., and John McCain, R-Ariz., a former prisoner of war.
Because Vietnam is a communist state, its normal trade status will still be subject to annual review, requiring the president to waive the requirement that Vietnam allow free emigration.
Vietnam’s prime minister initiated the ratification process in Vietnam by sending the trade agreement to President Tran Duc Long.
