'Babies' Mental Delay Tied to Moms' Vegan Diet'

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2003-01-31 06:06am

Frank Hipper wrote:What is it about the word OMNIVORE people don't understand? I hope they find their diet-fascism a comfort as they put their kids on the short bus.

(edited out the superfluous)

Diet-Fascism, eh? Kind of reminds me about the SDA's and their teaching to not eat meat...And I know what half of you will say to that.

salm · Post by **salm** » 2003-01-31 06:44am

Guttermouth - Veggicide

Something's up
Something's on my mind
I try to go to sleep
I try to pass the time
What gives you the right
To kill a harmless carrot
Growing in God's sunlight
You say they're best
You say they're best for you
I say it's not true
You say they make
A damn good stew
So it's time
It's time to liberate
Don't eat a carrot
Spare it
And don't eat the beet
On your plate
All my friends say
Veggies feel no pain
All my friends say
Veggies have no brains
All my friends say
Veggies feel no pain
Don't stir fry by me!
Ya-ya-ya!

Enricko · Post by **Enricko** » 2003-01-31 08:57am

You know, I have an old college-buddy who begin to worry me...

He became a vegetarian a few years ago (when he was 16), then he switched to veganism (at 22), now he is what he calls a CRUDIVOR

(don't know the English translation, CRUDI= "crudités" = raw vegetables).

He wont eat anything that could have been cooked, only stuff like raw-bread, salads, nuts, etc. Let me tell you that were I live, it's KRIFFING COLD. If my ancestors, those noble lumberjacks, had this kind of diet, they would have died on their first day on the jobs!

But then again, my friend believe in OVNIs, 9/11 conspiracy, Bigfoots, etc...

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-01-31 09:27am

Sounds like your friend has a veritable flea circus of bad ideas in his head. Tell me, did he major in philosophy? They're usually pretty whacked out. Probably comes from realizing they've spent 4 years and tens of thousands of dollars learning shit that won't even get them promoted to the fryer at Burger King.

Enricko · Post by **Enricko** » 2003-01-31 09:30am

He is a certified biologist...

Oh God, Allah, Fat Budda! Help us!

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-01-31 09:39am

Enricko wrote:He is a certified biologist...

Oh God, Allah, Fat Budda! Help us!

Curious. Then again, if he's from Quebec, he's probably French. That would explain a lot as well.

Alternately, he could just be stupid (ever notice that those five little words explain so many of the mysteries of human behavior?).

Enricko · Post by **Enricko** » 2003-01-31 09:55am

RedImperator wrote:
Enricko wrote:He is a certified biologist...

Oh God, Allah, Fat Budda! Help us!
Curious. Then again, if he's from Quebec, he's probably French. That would explain a lot as well.

Alternately, he could just be stupid (ever notice that those five little words explain so many of the mysteries of human behavior?).

Stupid, no. But misinformed and gullible, probably. We tend to be more tolerant to new idea (Ex: We have the Raëlleans).

And for that French comment: We maybe not the pinnacle of the Western civilization, the most intelligent people, the most powerful nation, but at least our beer contains real alcohol in it!!!

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-01-31 10:04am

I think the Veganazis should all go to the plains of Africa, and try to talk the lions into not eating the zebras. If they can succeed at that, I might gain some respect for them.

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2003-01-31 10:21am

Enricko wrote:
RedImperator wrote:
Enricko wrote:He is a certified biologist...

Oh God, Allah, Fat Budda! Help us!
Curious. Then again, if he's from Quebec, he's probably French. That would explain a lot as well.

Alternately, he could just be stupid (ever notice that those five little words explain so many of the mysteries of human behavior?).
Stupid, no. But misinformed and gullible, probably. We tend to be more tolerant to new idea (Ex: We have the Raëlleans).

And for that French comment: We maybe not the pinnacle of the Western civilization, the most intelligent people, the most powerful nation, but at
least our beer contains real alcohol in it!!!

Their is more than one kind of stupid out their, you know. Their's clinical stupidity, Stupidity from a lack of education, Naievety, the "I'll believe anything I hear" stupid, the close minded stupid and I'm sure many others.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-01-31 10:28am

Actually, vegetarians can avoid health problems associated with their dietary habits... if they take a lot of vitamins.

By the way, what are the PETA going to say about THAT news story??

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-01-31 11:11am

Simon H.Johansen wrote:By the way, what are the PETA going to say about THAT news story??

"We'd just like to say...well, we really fucked this whole thing up. See, we're all just animal lovers at heart, and we just wanted to do what's best, but because of our irrational, single-minded opposition to the consumption of any animal products despite their necessity in the human diet, and our militant public relations, hudreds, maybe thousands of people have risked their health and well-being and that of their children for a ridiculous, unfounded ideaology, and this tragic, tragic story has made us realize that. We're sorry. Have a grilled cheese sandwich."

That was the press release from parallel universe Q17705-A9. From our universe:

"It's unfortunate that these kids have been turned into retards unnecessarily, but that's better the exploiting helpless cows and chickens, who have tyhe exact same right to a happy life as the children do."

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-01-31 11:40am

Enricko wrote:You know, I have an old college-buddy who begin to worry me...

He became a vegetarian a few years ago (when he was 16), then he switched to veganism (at 22), now he is what he calls a CRUDIVOR (don't know the English translation, CRUDI= "crudités" = raw vegetables).

He wont eat anything that could have been cooked, only stuff like raw-bread, salads, nuts, etc. Let me tell you that were I live, it's KRIFFING COLD. If my ancestors, those noble lumberjacks, had this kind of diet, they would have died on their first day on the jobs!

But then again, my friend believe in OVNIs, 9/11 conspiracy, Bigfoots, etc...

I believe he needs more lead in his diet. Supersonic lead pellets to the mouth, unfortunately they will be piping hot.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-01-31 11:44am

Simon H.Johansen wrote:Actually, vegetarians can avoid health problems associated with their dietary habits... if they take a lot of vitamins.

Not vitamin pills. Those are a massive fraud. Long term (>10yrs) studies have shown them to have no beneficial nor detrimental effect, excapt to spa all your money.
But as long as we get the vitamins through our food we're fine.

Enricko, your friend is an idiot. if he's a biologist, ask him why herbivore guts arer over twice the length of carnivore guts, and what he thinks of the Expensive Tissue Hypothesis (Aiello) for the evolution of Homo erectus. Make him cook his food, for Bob's sake!

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-01-31 11:48am

I hear canned plankton is good and how they stave off death for one more day. Of course according to Johnny Knoxville, trying to kill yourself in overly elaborate and entertaining ways is also good.

I think I'll stick with meat, meself.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-01-31 01:31pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:I hear canned plankton is good and how they stave off death for one more day. Of course according to Johnny Knoxville, trying to kill yourself in overly elaborate and entertaining ways is also good.

Plankton?? Are they animals or plants?? I'm never 100% sure.

Innerbrat,

Not vitamin pills. Those are a massive fraud. Long term (>10yrs) studies have shown them to have no beneficial nor detrimental effect, excapt to spa all your money.
But as long as we get the vitamins through our food we're fine.

Hmm.... I've got my information from a book by Desmond Morris, called "The Dominant Monkey", "The Hairless Monkey" or something like that. I only remember its danish title.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-01-31 01:50pm

Also, do you knowhat I don't get? Those vegetarians that own't eat meat because they're equal with animals. They're usually those little kids that just got back from seeing some movie wiht a talking animal. If they find nothing wrong with one animal eating another, then why do they object from a human form eating one?

"He's not crazy, Billy. He just hasn't heard of the Food Chain!"

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-01-31 02:05pm

Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:I hear canned plankton is good and how they stave off death for one more day. Of course according to Johnny Knoxville, trying to kill yourself in overly elaborate and entertaining ways is also good.
Plankton?? Are they animals or plants?? I'm never 100% sure.

Innerbrat,

Not vitamin pills. Those are a massive fraud. Long term (>10yrs) studies have shown them to have no beneficial nor detrimental effect, excapt to spa all your money.
But as long as we get the vitamins through our food we're fine.
Hmm.... I've got my information from a book by Desmond Morris, called "The Dominant Monkey", "The Hairless Monkey" or something like that. I only remember its danish title.

Depends which ones you eat, zooplankton are, phytoplankton aren't.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-01-31 03:53pm

I remember about 10 years or so ago when going Veggi became all the rage among the mindless fashion trend idiots and my older sister folowed suit. She took all the vitimins and mineral tablets she was suposed to etc. The result she fainted 7 times in the 1st month and ended up in hospital suffering from all sorts of defencies. Unfortunately they couldn't cure her brain disease and she still remains a mindless idiot.

As an estemed member of this board once said "Vegtables are not food vegtables are what food eats".

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-01-31 05:24pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:
Simon H.Johansen wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:I hear canned plankton is good and how they stave off death for one more day. Of course according to Johnny Knoxville, trying to kill yourself in overly elaborate and entertaining ways is also good.
Plankton?? Are they animals or plants?? I'm never 100% sure.
Depends which ones you eat, zooplankton are, phytoplankton aren't.

Nope. Most are neither. they're mostly protists, just some photosynthesis and some don't
OK, ostracods are animals, but very little plankton are plants.

Simon H.Johansen wrote: Innerbrat,
Not vitamin pills. Those are a massive fraud. Long term (>10yrs) studies have shown them to have no beneficial nor detrimental effect, excapt to spa all your money.
But as long as we get the vitamins through our food we're fine.
Hmm.... I've got my information from a book by Desmond Morris, called "The Dominant Monkey", "The Hairless Monkey" or something like that. I only remember its danish title.

Hmm yourself. Mine was in the news a coupla years ago. What's the date of your book?

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-01-31 05:32pm

Humans first evolved larger brains by having more meat in their diet.

As such, I like to point out to vegans that they are making themselves have inferior cognative powers compared to us omnivores.

Of course, since a lot of vegans are fundies as well, it doesn't always work...

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-01-31 05:39pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:Humans first evolved larger brains by having more meat in their diet.

As such, I like to point out to vegans that they are making themselves have inferior cognative powers compared to us omnivores.

Of course, since a lot of vegans are fundies as well, it doesn't always work...

DPDP, read my post.
The Expensive Tissue hypothesis is not about meat alone. It is abotu HIGHER QUALITY food, which includes the processing of otherwise inedible foodstuffs, such as tubers.
Regardless of what outr ancestors live, a senisble person can quite happily survive on a vegetarian diet by planning their meals and cooking them well.

THEHOOLIGANJEDI · Post by **THEHOOLIGANJEDI** » 2003-01-31 06:03pm

Slartibartfast wrote:So what's so wrong about this? Darwin is making sure these people don't reproduce

Well, not quite these "people" are still adding on and contaminating the gene pool.

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-01-31 07:11pm

Now I know why my sister is such a bleeding-heart hippie.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-02-01 04:34am

innerbrat wrote: Nope. Most are neither. they're mostly protists, just some photosynthesis and some don't
OK, ostracods are animals, but very little plankton are plants.

Hmmm..... I wonder what the animal rights movement think about those plankton which neither are plants nor animals.

Hmm yourself. Mine was in the news a coupla years ago. What's the date of your book?

I think it's a good deal older than a couple of years.

DPDarkPrimus,

Of course, since a lot of vegans are fundies as well, it doesn't always work...

You mean those Hare Krishna guys?? It can't be Christian fundamentalists you're talking about, as the bible says following about vegetarians:

Romans 14:2: For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-02-01 06:17pm

Romans 14:2 : For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

I believe PETA once tried to say that the Christian doctrine promoted vegertarianism, but this verse seems to say the exact opposite. Also, they tried to say Jesus was a vegetarian, although he is depicted in the Bible eating fish. Shows what they'll do.

But then again, who cares what the Bible says? Or the animal rights wackos?