New World of Warcraft expansion: 3.0.2 patch update

[Broomstick]

Also, the infection is getting stronger. It went from 10 minutes to 5 minutes, it takes more dispel attempts to remove the disease, there are plagued roaches in all the cities

Ah! It must have been that roach that infected my main this morning!

My guild got a bunch of us less-than-leet raiders and took us to Hyjal last night. Apparently it never occurred to the raid leaders that if your Hyjal group contains people who have never raided before (we had at least 3) you need to tell them don't talk to ANY NPC, but especially DON'T talk to Jaina Proudmore or Thrall! Oops. A definite Leeroy Jenkins moment.

Meanwhile, I keep hearing sproinnnnng-THWOCK! Then it hits me - that's NOT coming from the headset, that's coming from the kitchen and living room. It's my husband, adjusting the family crossbow's sights (21st Century laser pointer meets 12th Century weaponry). I swear, if a portal opens up in the bathroom between Earth and Azeroth I don't think I'll notice the difference. Almost as much fun as when I was battling the buzzards just outside Falcon Watch and a parrot thunks onto the top of my head and starts beak-bashing me.

[Crossroads Inc.]

anyone know how to get life back as a Zombie? When i get into the form I immediatly star loosing life and always die wihtin 5min

[Kuja]

Start killing shit. Injuring people (both npc's and pc's) gives you life back.

[CaptainChewbacca]

anyone know how to get life back as a Zombie? When i get into the form I immediatly star loosing life and always die wihtin 5min

Kill things.

[Oskuro]

^Think "Dawn of the Dead" or whatever zombie movie you like. Add some "/say Braaaaaaaains!" for enhanced zombieness.


Also, I'm glad to see a new profession requiring herbs, thus making herbalism more profitable. It was about time too.

[GuppyShark]

Also, the green cloud from the zombie "Purge" ability heals you.

It's about the only way to get a group of zombies from one town to another.

A dressed link because I inlined like a retard, me am smurt

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

So I stopped playing for a couple of weeks because I was busy and my OS decided to do a Seppuku, but I come back now and .. they changed the way the paladins work, and I'm confused now. Are there any updated paladin guides now?

[Ghost Rider]

So I stopped playing for a couple of weeks because I was busy and my OS decided to do a Seppuku, but I come back now and .. they changed the way the paladins work, and I'm confused now. Are there any updated paladin guides now?

You can look through elitist jerks forums for some good ideas on what and how to do what. They honestly should have a breakdown of whichever spec you'd want, though it will require some sifting as they usually discuss on the higher end of the game.

As you said, they changed blessings and judgements around a helluva a lot, and because of this along with a few talents has made Retribution into a playable spec rather then "I need T3/6 gear to compete.".

Any particular questions or did you just want a broad overview?

[Slacker]

Ret is broken. A noobadin in T4 shouldn't be able to kill a warrior with 11k armor and 10k health in under five seconds, I'm sorry.

Other than Ret Paladins and mages, though, from a warrior perspective things seem to be pretty balanced, in the 'loaded 45s at ten paces' sort of way.

Still haven't pvp'd enough on the shaman or lock to get a feel for them yet.

[Crown]

Still haven't pvp'd enough on the shaman or lock to get a feel for them yet.

Warlocks are broken in PvP (QQ). Blizzard have admitted as such and they are buffing Soul Link (still at Tier 2 - or 3 depending how you count) to 20% mitigation from 15. Change will go live prior to Nov 13. But even that is not enough. Both Neyllo (Brutal Rogue) and Affix (Brutal Mage) have point blank stated Warlock PvP is dead in the water. Funnily enough Affix said it was dead in Season 3, it's just Druids were so good at keeping Warlock's up that Blizzard never realised. But now Lifebloom has been nerf'd Warlocks can't compete anymore. No burst and survivability has been entirely stripped.

Add to that Blizzard still point blank REFUSE to allow our pets to scale properly (mainly because Hunter pets are insane). And they will be one shotted at 80 with their zero resilience and 6k health.

For Enhancement Shamans; if your Spirit Wolves are off cooldown, you're one of the few classes that could actually win in a nuke orgy against Ret. If they're not off cooldown, then well, no.

So I stopped playing for a couple of weeks because I was busy and my OS decided to do a Seppuku, but I come back now and .. they changed the way the paladins work, and I'm confused now. Are there any updated paladin guides now?

Get Warrior items now, gogo! If you're a Tankadin you and your damage/threat and your seals both scale with AP and SpDamage. So go get Warrior tanking weapons and enjoy it. My Tankadin is 61 and he's leveling fine now with Hammer of the Righteous and Warrior plate (although I do have a few Healadin items here and there). Elitest Jerks or Maintankadin are good sources.

[Ghost Rider]

Ret is broken. A noobadin in T4 shouldn't be able to kill a warrior with 11k armor and 10k health in under five seconds, I'm sorry.

And a T4 noobadin could always do that against a warrior with that shit of gear. 10K health? I had that in leather/plate Fury gear, fuck my PvP gear.

The only difference is they can do in 8-10 versus 12-15 if they get a string of decent crits and the warrior stands there.

Other than Ret Paladins and mages, though, from a warrior perspective things seem to be pretty balanced, in the 'loaded 45s at ten paces' sort of way.

You mean like every other time in which warrior rely on a pocket healer? The new skills and scale of Crit has improved.

Still haven't pvp'd enough on the shaman or lock to get a feel for them yet.

Locks got raped because of so much QQ from every other class that they are where Enhancement Shamans were. Shamans now vary between compentent in burst or just standing targets as they have been.

Personally I fear a rogue more because they have now more talents to fuck specifcally a warrior then any class.

[Crossroads Inc.]

I'm a Tank-a-din, when it comes to PvP, no amount of Twinking is going to help me out.. I do find it awesome however that paladins as a whole ARE overpowered for Ret and SHockadins. Sure when my lvl 49 twink-Warriors is owned by a lvl 43 paladin, it might get on my nerves, but back in the 70 category, I'm LOVING things just the way they are.,

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

I'm a Tank-a-din, when it comes to PvP, no amount of Twinking is going to help me out.. I do find it awesome however that paladins as a whole ARE overpowered for Ret and SHockadins. Sure when my lvl 49 twink-Warriors is owned by a lvl 43 paladin, it might get on my nerves, but back in the 70 category, I'm LOVING things just the way they are.,

"Shockadins"?? What are they?

[Crossroads Inc.]

Shockadins are a mix of Holy and ret, theres a high end Holy spell called "Holy Shock" it heals you and hurts opponents.. Shockadins put the max points into this and gear their tree to maximize holy and spell damage.

For the most part they are deadly in PvP, but if manaburn them out of mana, thier toast

[Crown]

I'm a Tank-a-din, when it comes to PvP, no amount of Twinking is going to help me out.. I do find it awesome however that paladins as a whole ARE overpowered for Ret and SHockadins. Sure when my lvl 49 twink-Warriors is owned by a lvl 43 paladin, it might get on my nerves, but back in the 70 category, I'm LOVING things just the way they are.,

Dual spec should be live soon, so you can be a Tankadin in PvE and with mostly the same gear switch to Ret for some OMGNERFTHEBURSTQQBBQSAUCE! PvP.

[Crown]

Personally I fear a rogue more because they have now more talents to fuck specifcally a warrior then any class.

*cough*All Rogues need is 'Track Warlock' in order to increase their HK's per second count*cough*

[Civil War Man]

Ret is broken. A noobadin in T4 shouldn't be able to kill a warrior with 11k armor and 10k health in under five seconds, I'm sorry.

Basically, if you think it is unfair that Retribution can do that, I get the impression that you are one of those people I run into online who feel that Retribution is broken if they are viable in any way. In original WoW, paladins basically got laughed at if they were anything but Holy. If they wanted to tank or DPS, they were constantly told to either reroll a warrior/rogue or STFU and heal. Protection got a lot better with the Burning Crusade, and retribution almost did, too. Except, like now, the classes were balanced for max level, and retribution came strong out of the gate. And people complained until they were nerfed to the point of irrelevence.

Retribution had some DPS abilities, except they couldn't come close to the numbers of other DPS specs. They had some good PvP abilities. It was only too bad that resilience was king in PvP, and retribution PvP gear had less than everyone else's. They basically brought nothing to a raid unless they put enough points in Protection to have Blessing of Kings, and at that point you may as well bring a Protection Paladin because then at least you'd have that buff without wasting a raid slot.

Basically Retribution is becoming actually viable for the first time. Is it overpowered? Probably. But Blizzard's trying to fix that by making them less overpowering in PvP without hamstringing them in all aspects of the game, and the number of people complaining that their favorite chewtoy can actually compete now is not helping.

As for me, at least if we do see a repeat of the Burning Crusade, there is a ready-made plate DPS class that I can play without having to start back at level 1.

[Ghost Rider]

Personally I fear a rogue more because they have now more talents to fuck specifcally a warrior then any class.

*cough*All Rogues need is 'Track Warlock' in order to increase their HK's per second count*cough*

Yah, yah, but they are supposed to be your *snort* counter class.

Believe me, I played on my bud's warlock and play a mage, and Rogue hurt. It just amazes me they are given MORE to hurt a warrior for no other reason then "Warior R conter Cla$$!". Yeah, Dismantle has any other reason to be in existence...for I dunno, maybe Arthas needs to get hit by it before the raid damages him.

[Crown]

Personally I fear a rogue more because they have now more talents to fuck specifcally a warrior then any class.

*cough*All Rogues need is 'Track Warlock' in order to increase their HK's per second count*cough*

Yah, yah, but they are supposed to be your *snort* counter class.

Believe me, I played on my bud's warlock and play a mage, and Rogue hurt. It just amazes me they are given MORE to hurt a warrior for no other reason then "Warior R conter Cla$$!". Yeah, Dismantle has any other reason to be in existence...for I dunno, maybe Arthas needs to get hit by it before the raid damages him.

Dismantle is there to take away whatever little hope Enhancement Shammies ever had of being slightly more troubling to a Rogue than a Warlock is.

[Ghost Rider]

Yah, yah, but they are supposed to be your *snort* counter class.

Believe me, I played on my bud's warlock and play a mage, and Rogue hurt. It just amazes me they are given MORE to hurt a warrior for no other reason then "Warior R conter Cla$$!". Yeah, Dismantle has any other reason to be in existence...for I dunno, maybe Arthas needs to get hit by it before the raid damages him.

Dismantle is there to take away whatever little hope Enhancement Shammies ever had of being slightly more troubling to a Rogue than a Warlock is.

LOL, true. Saddest part, for a warrior? Play Protect spec in PvP. It now does high amounts of damage, has nearly the stun capability of a rogue, and can hurt casters worse then most classes. Honestly, this patch has made me laugh rather hard all in all.

[Crown]

LOL, true. Saddest part, for a warrior? Play Protect spec in PvP. It now does high amounts of damage, has nearly the stun capability of a rogue, and can hurt casters worse then most classes. Honestly, this patch has made me laugh rather hard all in all.

/cry

I know, I had a friendly Brutal Warrior help me out by dueling me 10 times last night so I could learn how to deal with a the new Prot. And by 'deal' I mean get him to 30% before I die.

[Ghost Rider]

LOL, true. Saddest part, for a warrior? Play Protect spec in PvP. It now does high amounts of damage, has nearly the stun capability of a rogue, and can hurt casters worse then most classes. Honestly, this patch has made me laugh rather hard all in all.

/cry

I know, I had a friendly Brutal Warrior help me out by dueling me 10 times last night so I could learn how to deal with a the new Prot. And by 'deal' I mean get him to 30% before I die.

It is hilarious to watch. I did that after trying TG build and going "Meh". I decided to try out my BT/Sunwell tanking gear, and just running BG noobs through. AoE stun, ranged stuns, laughing at casters behind the front lines, having intervene laugh at roots and junk. Makes Warsong a hoot.

[CaptainChewbacca]

So, the Lich King is getting stronger. Various parts of Azeroth are now 'under attack', so you go and kill level 70 mobs inside summoning circles, then use the runes they drop to kill the cultists (do it one at a time, they're elite 70's). Some pretty awesome armor is dropping, too.

[Darmalus]

So, the Lich King is getting stronger. Various parts of Azeroth are now 'under attack', so you go and kill level 70 mobs inside summoning circles, then use the runes they drop to kill the cultists (do it one at a time, they're elite 70's). Some pretty awesome armor is dropping, too.

My guild is having bad luck with that, every time we find one of these spots, the fight is all over anyway. =\

[Broomstick]

So, the Lich King is getting stronger. Various parts of Azeroth are now 'under attack', so you go and kill level 70 mobs inside summoning circles, then use the runes they drop to kill the cultists (do it one at a time, they're elite 70's). Some pretty awesome armor is dropping, too.

So... I guess that's the rolling restarts every couple days?