Loving People

[Shroom Man 777]

A Jew is a problem. He steals everyone's gold and should be thrown down wells.

[SisterMiriamGodwinson]

A Lord's Believer is a problem. He steals everyone's technologies.

[General Zod]

You don't get to pick and choose. Either the old testament is obsolete, and so are the ten commandments, or they're perfectly valid. Which is it?

The Covenant is still valid, for a Jew. Christianity is valid for Christians. And Messianic Jews.

So the Ten Commandments aren't Christian now? Holy fuck you're a dumbshit.

[SisterMiriamGodwinson]

So the Ten Commandments aren't Christian now? Holy fuck you're a dumbshit.

Jesus was Jewish.... But anyway.. the Ten Commandments are Jewish, and Christian and Buddhist and yada yada yada.

They are the human race's Commandments. Think about that.

[Pablo Sanchez]

done

[Lagmonster]

Once again you don't get it. If you get Jesus'es get out jail free card and give up on life, salvation was never attained.

Of course salvation wasn't attained. There's no supernatural component of people to save in this or any other life. You seem entirely blind to the fact that our very definitions of what constitutes reality are different.

[Lagmonster]

They are the human race's Commandments. Think about that.

If one does not believe in any supernatural entity, the Ten Commandments are nothing more than the rules of a primitive society which has been dressed up in imaginary divinity in order to give them authority and validity.

[Ghost Rider]

I said I was saving this, and I will. Moving back to SLAM because the topic poster is dumb enough to get more mileage out of said's yapping.

[Samuel]

It is the miracle of boundless self-confidence and total obliviousness.

[SirNitram]

I must admit, few things amuse me more than 'Well, belief in Jesus and God isn't Christianity because you can reject them!'. Which means you're a Christian, but an angry, bitter one who is still clinging to the sky fairy. The main difference is you no longer use it as an excuse to be righteous; it's now just an excuse for whatever total stupidity you do.

Of course, insipid little monkeys who haven't quite evolved up to humanity will scream that they are atheists when they reject god, but that's farcical as anyone with a good grasp of what words mean knows.

[Fleet Admiral JD]

Jesus was Jewish.... But anyway.. the Ten Commandments are Jewish, and Christian and Buddhist and yada yada yada.

They are the human race's Commandments. Think about that.

Though I agree with them, I couldn't disagree with you more. They are most certainly not the human race's commandments--many people on this very forum strongly disagree with many of them and I still think no less of them for that.

There is no universal set of ethics, diptard.

[SisterMiriamGodwinson]

There is no universal set of ethics, diptard.

Vulgar... This IS the universal set of ethics everyone will be judged whether they agree with them or not. Now on to the OP.

Doesn't this man advocate the right approach of attracting their faith to you or not? Which is the actual question of the OP.

[Alerik the Fortunate]

Even though 90% of humanity never received the first four at least, and easily 90% of Christians violate the fourth, they will be judged according to it anyway? Or will the Christians simply be forgiven? Then how are they relevant? Simply to arbitrarily put a sentence of eternal torture on the majority of human lives? An omnipotent, omnipresent, perfectly loving deity cannot be bothered to coherently communicate his message to everyone that he supposedly loved, yet will dispense punishment on all? If you could see with objective eyes your own belligerent temerity at dictating morality to the rest of us when you have not even bothered in the slightest to establish the existence of your divinity, much less your authority to speak on his behalf. Then you would know why we dismiss you utterly.

[SisterMiriamGodwinson]

blah blah blah blah blah blah
God cannot return to the Earth until he sends angels to give the Gospel to everyone on Earth. Not only that, but do not steal, do not kill, do not commit adultery, do not covet thy neighbor's anything, do not bear false witness, are half of the set of Commandments that God set forth to obey and a whole lot of cultures agree with that.

Unless your complaining about the Sabbath laws, whats really so foreign in the Ten Commandments, really? Did you know that in the Old Testament the Gentiles had a Covenant with God too? Did you know that it wasn't actually until a few centuries that the world was isolated from God's laws to begin with?

The Bible says that to him that knoweth to do good and doeth it not, it is sin.. Doesn't this make you hopeful that God will give information to those who haven't heard of him? Read Eternity In Their Hearts. Many cultures have a Sky Father.. this is God.

[Karmic Knight]

God cannot return to the Earth until he sends angels to give the Gospel to everyone on Earth. Not only that, but do not steal, do not kill, do not commit adultery, do not covet thy neighbor's anything, do not bear false witness, are half of the set of Commandments that God set forth to obey and a whole lot of cultures agree with that.

Um, so, the agreement with those concessions to society stem from the logical need for restraint in a collective.

[SisterMiriamGodwinson]

INcluding lusting after the opposite sex. How close do you think that is to adultery anyway?

I'm not saying that the world had one faith.. but the world has always had its covenants with God. A Jew becoming Christian under Jesus does not change that. And is in reality only different in nature because of the severity of the benefits and responsibilities it brings.

[General Zod]

INcluding lusting after the opposite sex. How close do you think that is to adultery anyway?

Thoughts do not equal action. Try again.

I'm not saying that the world had one faith.. but the world has always had its covenants with God. A Jew becoming Christian under Jesus does not change that. And is in reality only different in nature because of the severity of the benefits and responsibilities it brings.

You're still in high school, aren't you?

The Bible says that to him that knoweth to do good and doeth it not, it is sin.. Doesn't this make you hopeful that God will give information to those who haven't heard of him? Read Eternity In Their Hearts. Many cultures have a Sky Father.. this is God.

Which is totally why their mythologies are so similar and. . . .oh wait. They aren't at all, you're just full of shit.

[Alerik the Fortunate]

Again more mindless unjustified assertions while dismissing the point of the questions. No God is required for morality, as has been shown repeatedly on this forum and by philosophers elsewhere. You have merely claimed that the whole world was in contact with him until quite recently without a shred of evidence.

What makes the Ten Commandments so special if even one of them can simply be dropped without explanation? He who violates one commandment violates the whole law, by your own book. God cannot return? A limitation on his power? What prevents him from sending angels at any time if he desires to be known? Don't resort to an obvious appeal to ignorance. I think in Acts it was said that the Gospel was spread to the whole world. Simply false; the writers weren't even aware of most of the world, despite direct access to the spirit of a supposedly omniscient God. Resorting to the "just the parts they knew about" makes the statement meaningless bragging, and robs the text of its claims to universality.

And don't patronize me; I used to be a Christian. I'm not ignorant. I'm starting to think you really are just a troll in it for the attention, though. Though possibly you need this to justify the Christian persecution complex you have, if you really are a Christian. Which is unfortunate, if true. I'm not qualified to decide, neither is the internet a reliable way to tell these things. Unless you are going to be honest about yourself and your motivations, there is no serious discussion here.

[SisterMiriamGodwinson]

ITs interesting to note that a white man preaching Monotheism to the Mayans was seen abolishing human sacrifice. Oh, and forget about the animal sacrificing Shang Ti god of China, he wasn't monotheistic either. Neither was Viracocha. Do you think that Epicurus was talking about a righteous god angry at the slaughter of innocent people when he suggested that they slaughter sheep for him in repentant sacrifice for the plagues they got? No... There must be no monotheistic influence in Ancient Greece, despite all those things Socrates said. Your right, there is no similar god in Ancient cultures at all.

Isis being similar to other Mediterranean goddesses is just fine, as is Ra being like Apollo and even some Western European gods being associated with Apollo. I guess that Sky deities ARE OBVIOUSLY an exception to being similar to eachother.

[Stark]

Translation: I think I know everything.

Ironic, considering christians are convinced they DO know everything, and they have the book to prove it.

[SisterMiriamGodwinson]

http://www.megaessays.com/viewpaper/59693.html

Look at this....

[Stark]

SisterMiriam, you're not a true Christian.

Because I say so.

And I am the Goddamn Shroom Man.

This is the war.

My war.

On whores.

I am the Goddamn Shroom Man.

The Last Sane Man on Earth.

Pray he's still out there

SOMEWHERE

[Darth Ruinus]

Loving people into God's Kingdom.... Do non-Christians find this interesting?

So you're asking me if I'm interested in something I'm clearly not interested in?

[SisterMiriamGodwinson]

Do you like the approach? Come on, your just being dense.

[Surlethe]

Actually, there is no True Scottsman fallacy.

The criteria for a Christian is laid down in the Bible.

Where?

It does not say that Christians are Church members. It says Christians are obedient servants of God.

How is it possible to objectively know what God's commands are?

Edit, since, like an idiot, I assumed this was a 1-page thread:

Doesn't this man advocate the right approach of attracting their faith to you or not? Which is the actual question of the OP.

That depends. For a person whose beliefs about objective reality are shaped by emotions, perhaps. For a person who requires his beliefs to actually conform to objective reality, no. To persuade the latter sort of person, you will require reason and evidence (and quoting Paul in Romans is not "evidence").