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I question the use in trying to save the car industry. With many other companies producing cars better suited to weathering this financial storm looking precarious, why throw more money at a dying industry that hasn't learnt? That money would be better sent to infrastructure projects for their workers to get on with, not more giant cars sitting in a lot never to be sold.

However, it should be obvious energy is the big deal here. No energy, no economy. Simple.
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One measure that might help the US auto companies is to give them bankruptcy protection against their union obligations, but that would never fly under a Democratic administration.

At the end of the day, whoever's in power will try to bail out those companies. The Democrats have to do it in order to save those union jobs and benefits. The Republicans have to do it for national pride and to protect investors.
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ArcturusMengsk wrote:How feasible would it be for Obama to attempt to kill two birds with one stone, and propose (before the 2010 midterm elections) a massive public works project building up America's alternative energy structure to both shore up our energy reserves and provide needed relief for working Americans from the economic crisis? I imagine that it would be fought bitterly by the Republicans in Congress, but if he were to appeal directly to the American people for it - either through the medium of television or his massive supporter list - he could easily garner enough popular support that the G.O.P. would commit political suicide were they to oppose it.
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I see the most critical problem as two pronged: economy and energy.

We have to manage our energy thirst better for all the reasons anyone has mentioned. Realistically, fossil fuels are NOT going away for a decade at least, and probably not entirely in our lifetime. Meanwhile, we still need to tap other sources. That means nuclear, of course, but we also also use all those other sources - wind, solar, hydro, etc. - where appropriate, that is, where economically sensible and technologically feasible. If homeowners wish to convert their dwellings to solar/wind they should be encouraged to do as that is one less household on the grid which will continue to use fossil fuels for practical future. We can also use technology to save energy, such as compact florescents and LED lighting. Although none of the "alternatives" will save the world, they will reduce consumption. That is important, too.

No energy = no economy = no jobs. Investing in new energy projects will keep energy available (if it reduces costs all the better) AND employ people. If people aren't employed nothing gets paid for. It's that simple.

That said - economic barriers to making the necessary changes must be eliminated. Whether that's tax cuts or subsidies, or alteration of regulations, or just telling NIMBY's to shut fuck up or freeze in the cold and dark.

The second thing to be addressed is healthcare and that is ALSO linked to the economy. Healthy people are better able to work, and healthy people are less a burden on society. People with chronic illnesses who can get the care they need are less a burden on society than those whose health is permitted to deteriorate into a crisis. Also, there's the moral aspect of treating other people humanely.

Right now, in the US healthcare is most commonly linked to being employed. As more and more people lose their jobs more and more lose their health insurance and much of their access to even routine care. As pointed out, home foreclosures are linked to this problem. It is also a problem that fewer insured people mean more uncollected money for places like hospitals, which can go out of business and inconvenience everyone, even the insured. We need to decouple healthcare and employment, and we need a better economy so people can generate the wealth to provide healthcare to the nation (whether out of pocket - ha! - or through taxes or whatever - no jobs = no taxes)

I see no real obstacle to tackling these two things - economy/energy and healthcare - simultaneously on entering office. Fixing healthcare in the US has been delayed too long, and even if we fix the energy problem it will still be a terrible drag on the economy. If we want a healthy economy we must also have adequate medical care for ALL people
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From the man himself and CNN (with emphasis added by me):
(CNN) -- In his first public remarks since delivering his victory speech three days ago, President-elect Barack Obama vowed Friday that restoring the nation's economic equilibrium will be a priority of his administration.

"I do not underestimate the enormity of the task that lies ahead," Obama told reporters at the Hilton Hotel in Chicago, Illinois. "We have taken some major action to date, and we will take further action."

Obama said that passing a stimulus package will be his first move if the lame-duck Congress fails to do so before he takes office January 20.

"It's not going to be easy for us to dig ourselves out of the hole that we're in," he said, flanked by Vice President-elect Joe Biden and members of his transition economic advisory board.

"But America is a strong and resilient country, and I know that we will succeed if we put aside politics and partisanship."

Obama pointed to Friday's release of unemployment figures and bad news from the auto industry as part of the reason that his administration will have to move quickly on the economic crisis. Video Watch Obama lay out his economic plan »

"We are facing the greatest economic challenge of our lifetime, and we are going to have to act swiftly to solve it," Obama said.

Obama expressed gratitude to President Bush for his invitation to White House and the promise the outgoing leader has made to keep him fully informed about the state of the nation.

Obama said he would work together with Bush in bipartisan spirit to help the country move forward.

Responding afterward to the news conference, one GOP lawmaker said he was "encouraged by Barack Obama's idea that it is time to put the partisan politics aside and work to help us all."

"We have a difficult situation in front of us, and it is impacting individuals at the heart of their being," Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Oklahoma, said on CNN.

After assuming office, Obama said that he would "confront this economic crisis head-on by taking all necessary steps to ease the credit crisis, help hard-working families and restore growth and prosperity." Video Watch Obama talk about help for the middle class »

"We need a rescue plan for the middle class that invests in immediate efforts to create jobs and provide relief to families that are watching their life savings disappear."

He vowed to extend unemployment benefits for workers, to help families avoid foreclosure and to aid small businesses and strapped state and municipal governments as well as the U.S. auto industry, which has been pounded by plummeting sales.

"The auto industry is the backbone of American manufacturing," he said, promising that his transition team will work to "help the auto industry adjust."

On Friday, General Motors Corp., the nation's largest automaker, reported a huge loss much worse than expected -- $4.2 billion -- and warned it's in danger of running out of cash in the coming months. Ford Motor Co. also reported Friday a $3 billion operating loss in the latest quarter.

The Labor Department's monthly jobs report Friday showed that the economy shed 240,000 jobs in October, bringing the year's total job losses to 1.2 million. The unemployment rate climbed from 6.1 percent to 6.5 percent, the highest it has been since March 1994.

On the foreign affairs front, Obama reiterated that he believes a nuclear-armed Iran would be "unacceptable," but he said any U.S. response to Tehran would not be in a "knee-jerk fashion." Obama said he would help mount an international effort to keep Iran from becoming a nuclear threat.

Obama said he would move with "deliberate haste" to fill his Cabinet posts.

Earlier Friday, a source involved in the Cabinet gathering process said Obama is considering a mix of Washington insiders and high-profile business executives to head Cabinet positions.

Interest in the makeup of Obama's economic team is high. CNNMoney.com: Obama's business brain trust

Before the press conference, Obama and Biden met with a 17-member council of economic advisers. Among the panelists were former Treasury Secretaries Lawrence Summers and Robert Rubin, former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker and billionaire businessman Warren Buffett.

"This is one of the first times that I can remember that the secretary of the Treasury is going to be almost as important as the secretary of state," said CNN senior political analyst David Gergen, who served in the Reagan and Clinton administrations.

Names circulating for the treasury secretary position include Timothy Geithner, Summers and Volcker. Possible appointees for Obama's administration »

For secretary of state, Sen. John Kerry, D-Massachusetts, is high on the list, said the source involved in the process. Sen. Christopher Dodd of Connecticut, a former presidential candidate who later endorsed Obama in the Democratic primaries; New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson; and former U.N. Ambassador Richard Holbrooke also are interested in the job, the source said. iReport.com: Who should be in Obama's Cabinet?

For defense secretary, indications are the current defense chief, Robert Gates, will stay "for a certain period," the source said. Gates, the former CIA director under President George H.W. Bush, has received bipartisan praise for his leadership at the Pentagon in the last two years. Video Watch how Obama's inner circle is taking shape »

Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano is said to be a "very real possibility" for U.S. attorney general, the source said.

For secretary of commerce, Leon Panetta, former White House chief of staff in the Clinton administration; Chicago businesswoman Penny Pritzker; University of California economist Laura Tyson; and Time Warner Chairman Dick Parsons are all under consideration, according to the source. Time Warner is the parent company of CNN.

Obama on Thursday named U.S. Rep. Rahm Emanuel of Illinois as his chief of staff.Video Watch to see who Emanuel is »

A source with the Obama transition team said a plan to name David Axelrod a senior adviser to the incoming president is "in the works."
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Observers believe Robert Gibbs, the communications director for Obama's presidential campaign, will become the presidential press secretary.

Obama won the presidency with 364 electoral votes -- nearly 100 more than needed. On Friday, CNN projected Obama the winner in North Carolina, which has 15 electoral votes.
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