'Star Trek': An exclusive first look at the EnterpriseNov 11, 2008, 03:23 PM | by Jeff Jensen
JJ Abrams wasn't a huge fan of the original Star Trek TV series as a kid, but he does have one unabashed gee-whiz Star Trek memory: watching the first feature film (1979's Star Trek: The Motion Picture) and marveling over the big reveal of the Enterprise during a long sequence in which James T. Kirk takes a slow-boat tour around the iconic starship. "The coolest thing about it—maybe the coolest thing in the movie—was when you flew around the ship, you could see all the different panels that made up the ship," says the director of the forthcoming Trek reboot, slated for a May 8, 2009 release. "It was the first time I had ever seen that level of attention, that love of detail, given to the tangible, practical reality of the ship."
Here, in this exclusive first look at Abrams' take on the Enterprise, you not only see his vision of the ship, but his attempt to evoke that sequence from the first film that so captured his imagination. If you're thinking, "Wow! It looks the way the Enterprise has always looked"—well look at the big Spock brain on you! Abrams wanted to take the original TV series Enterprise and the movie franchise Enterprise and fuse them together into a new yet familiar Enterprise. His ambition was a ship that felt very realistic, that could "stand up" to today's f/x standards—and beyond. "If you're going to do Star Trek there are many things you cannot change. The Enterprise is a visual touchstone for so many people. So if you're going to do the Enterprise, it better look like the Enterprise, because otherwise, what are you doing?"
Fans and other interested parties will get more looks at the new Enterprise when the first trailer arrives this Friday, attached to Quantum of Solace. And if you missed the additional 11 Star Trek photos we debuted last month, click here and check 'em out.
EW.com reveals new Enterprise
Moderator: Vympel
- Darth Lucifer
- Jedi Council Member
- Posts: 1685
- Joined: 2004-10-14 04:18am
- Location: In pursuit of the Colonial Fleet
EW.com reveals new Enterprise
EW.com reveals new Enterprise
-
- Emperor's Hand
- Posts: 11924
- Joined: 2003-04-10 03:45pm
- Location: Cheshire, England
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
fuck that's ugly.
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
That engineering section is fucking ugly. I like what they did with the saucer and I dig the nacelles, but the everything inbetween looks like it's been in a bad crash.
It's like the ass fell off the TMP Enterprise and someone tried to tape it back on backwards.
It's like the ass fell off the TMP Enterprise and someone tried to tape it back on backwards.
Last edited by Bounty on 2008-11-11 05:55pm, edited 1 time in total.
-
- Emperor's Hand
- Posts: 11924
- Joined: 2003-04-10 03:45pm
- Location: Cheshire, England
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
To clarify: Each individual piece isn't too bad. (I'm not thrilled about the nacelles) but the configuration looks like shit. Those components laid out like the E-refit would be awesome.
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
Yeah, the detail work is nice, but there's no line to the thing. The neck slopes down into... nothing... and the (pretty!) deflector dish looks like a Habsburg lip.Those components laid out like the E-refit would be awesome.
Not to mention that the nacelles and the saucer make the secondary hull look a bit withered.
Last edited by Bounty on 2008-11-11 06:01pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
SIGH.
Why fuck with what's been established? We've seen beautiful CGI's of the original Enterprise on DS9 for fuck's sake. Just pretty it up some more and be done with it.
Why fuck with what's been established? We've seen beautiful CGI's of the original Enterprise on DS9 for fuck's sake. Just pretty it up some more and be done with it.
Wherever you go, there you are.
Ripped Shirt Monkey - BOTMWriter's Guild Cybertron's Finest Justice League
This updated sig brought to you by JME2
Ripped Shirt Monkey - BOTMWriter's Guild Cybertron's Finest Justice League
This updated sig brought to you by JME2
- charlemagne
- Jedi Knight
- Posts: 924
- Joined: 2008-10-13 02:28am
- Location: Regensburg, Germany
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
I have to admit, I kind of like it. Ok, the nacelles look like they fell of a 1960ies US car, and the forward engineering section does look like shit with that sticking out part.
But I do agree that it's a stupid idea to fuse the series with the movie Enterprise. With the refit there is an in-universe reason why the movie Enterprise looked different from TOS. This just shows that Abrams doesn't give a flying fuck about Star Trek and just wants to do his thing - which may make for a good movie nonetheless, but I'm less and less convinced that it will really feel like Star Trek.
But I do agree that it's a stupid idea to fuse the series with the movie Enterprise. With the refit there is an in-universe reason why the movie Enterprise looked different from TOS. This just shows that Abrams doesn't give a flying fuck about Star Trek and just wants to do his thing - which may make for a good movie nonetheless, but I'm less and less convinced that it will really feel like Star Trek.
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
If this were a new science fiction series and this was the ship I'd say it looks good.
And Odin bless JJ and all but...
And Odin bless JJ and all but...
This is not how the Enterprise has always looked. Comparing this incarnation with any previous model design is like saying the 2009 Camaro looks the way the Camaro has always looked. Yes, certain design cues are there - and have been on almost every Starfleet ship. Big saucer, flying nacelles - etc.If you're thinking, "Wow! It looks the way the Enterprise has always looked"—well look at the big Spock brain on you!
Well, you've cocked this one up so the story better be there. (Or what, I ask myself. Barring exceptionally bad reviews, as bad or worse than Nemesis, I'm going to see this either because I want to or because my friends will drag me to it.)"If you're going to do Star Trek there are many things you cannot change. The Enterprise is a visual touchstone for so many people. So if you're going to do the Enterprise, it better look like the Enterprise, because otherwise, what are you doing?"
- Count Chocula
- Jedi Council Member
- Posts: 1821
- Joined: 2008-08-19 01:34pm
- Location: You've asked me for my sacrifice, and I am winter born
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
Hey! It's Hot Rod Enterprise (TM), keepin' the vibe of the movie trailer real! :vomit:
Sorry, I just pure-d don't like it. The 1979 Enterprise was the pinnacle: now that was one good-lookin' ride! And if I look at the nacelle placement correctly, it appears to violate ST canon such as it is on nacelle placement.
Sorry, I just pure-d don't like it. The 1979 Enterprise was the pinnacle: now that was one good-lookin' ride! And if I look at the nacelle placement correctly, it appears to violate ST canon such as it is on nacelle placement.
The only people who were safe were the legion; after one of their AT-ATs got painted dayglo pink with scarlet go faster stripes, they identified the perpetrators and exacted revenge. - Eleventh Century Remnant
Lord Monckton is my heeerrooo
"Yeah, well, fuck them. I never said I liked the Moros." - Shroom Man 777
Lord Monckton is my heeerrooo
"Yeah, well, fuck them. I never said I liked the Moros." - Shroom Man 777
- Patrick Degan
- Emperor's Hand
- Posts: 14847
- Joined: 2002-07-15 08:06am
- Location: Orleanian in exile
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
They ruined her lines.
When ballots have fairly and constitutionally decided, there can be no successful appeal back to bullets.
—Abraham Lincoln
People pray so that God won't crush them like bugs.
—Dr. Gregory House
Oil an emergency?! It's about time, Brigadier, that the leaders of this planet of yours realised that to remain dependent upon a mineral slime simply doesn't make sense.
—The Doctor "Terror Of The Zygons" (1975)
—Abraham Lincoln
People pray so that God won't crush them like bugs.
—Dr. Gregory House
Oil an emergency?! It's about time, Brigadier, that the leaders of this planet of yours realised that to remain dependent upon a mineral slime simply doesn't make sense.
—The Doctor "Terror Of The Zygons" (1975)
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
Protruding edge on the dish: good
Crease around the engineering hull: good
Saucer: sure, fine
Neck: ok
Nacelles: jury out
Pylons: like 'em
Undercut of rear of engineering hull: jury out, not feeling good
At the moment, I think it's pretty good. It's not exactly how I'd do it, but nothing makes me want to scream.
I hope I don't get kicked out of the clique.
Crease around the engineering hull: good
Saucer: sure, fine
Neck: ok
Nacelles: jury out
Pylons: like 'em
Undercut of rear of engineering hull: jury out, not feeling good
At the moment, I think it's pretty good. It's not exactly how I'd do it, but nothing makes me want to scream.
I hope I don't get kicked out of the clique.
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
It's not entirely what I expected, but I don't think it's terrible, or ugly. Need to see it in action.
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
I get the feeling John Eaves was behind this design, and he tried to kludge the E-Nil and E-E designs together. The problem I can see is that the engineering hull is misproportioned; blow it up to twice the size and move the connecting struts upwards a bit, I reckon you'd have a pretty decent update of the TMP Enterprise.
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
They also pulled off a pretty damn good Connie in "In a Mirror Darkly". I don't see why they decided to break with what works here.Stravo wrote:SIGH.
Why fuck with what's been established? We've seen beautiful CGI's of the original Enterprise on DS9 for fuck's sake. Just pretty it up some more and be done with it.
Zor
HAIL ZOR! WE'LL BLOW UP THE OCEAN!
Heros of Cybertron-HAB-Keeper of the Vicious pit of Allosauruses-King Leighton-I, United Kingdom of Zoria: SD.net World/Tsar Mikhail-I of the Red Tsardom: SD.net Kingdoms
WHEN ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE ON EARTH, ALL EARTH BREAKS LOOSE ON HELL
Terran Sphere
The Art of Zor
Heros of Cybertron-HAB-Keeper of the Vicious pit of Allosauruses-King Leighton-I, United Kingdom of Zoria: SD.net World/Tsar Mikhail-I of the Red Tsardom: SD.net Kingdoms
WHEN ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE ON EARTH, ALL EARTH BREAKS LOOSE ON HELL
Terran Sphere
The Art of Zor
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.DaveJB wrote:I get the feeling John Eaves was behind this design, and he tried to kludge the E-Nil and E-E designs together. The problem I can see is that the engineering hull is misproportioned; blow it up to twice the size and move the connecting struts upwards a bit, I reckon you'd have a pretty decent update of the TMP Enterprise.
I will grant you that the perspective isn't identical, but does one hull look twice as big as the other to you?
There are fair complaints to be made, I suppose, but the size of the engineering hull probably isn't one of them.
- Batman
- Emperor's Hand
- Posts: 16375
- Joined: 2002-07-09 04:51am
- Location: Seriously thinking about moving to Marvel because so much of the DCEU stinks
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
This is, possibly excluding the E-J from ENT, the ugliest Enterprise design ever.
I know we're looking at a possible franchise reboot so her NOT looking like the E-nil doesn't necessarily matter but could they perhaps have chosen a design that WASN'T Valendamned buttfucking UGLY?
I know we're looking at a possible franchise reboot so her NOT looking like the E-nil doesn't necessarily matter but could they perhaps have chosen a design that WASN'T Valendamned buttfucking UGLY?
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
- Col. Crackpot
- That Obnoxious Guy
- Posts: 10228
- Joined: 2002-10-28 05:04pm
- Location: Rhode Island
- Contact:
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
Stravo wrote:SIGH.
Why fuck with what's been established? We've seen beautiful CGI's of the original Enterprise on DS9 for fuck's sake. Just pretty it up some more and be done with it.
Seriously, this is a case of "damned if you do and damned if you don't" If the "new" enterprise came on the screen looking like a fancy digitized version of 1967, the detractors would be just as vocal.
"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.” -Tom Clancy
- Ghost Rider
- Spirit of Vengeance
- Posts: 27779
- Joined: 2002-09-24 01:48pm
- Location: DC...looking up from the gutters to the stars
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
Not the worst, but my dislike is the size resembles a cross between the old Enterprise and the cramped feel of the Excelsior. The engineering section is particular ugly because it looks like it protruding out to go "MECHANICAL STUFF!". The nacelles, the class tube engineering and the saucer look fine.
MM /CF/WG/BOTM/JL/Original Warsie/ACPATHNTDWATGODW FOREVER!!
Sometimes we can choose the path we follow. Sometimes our choices are made for us. And sometimes we have no choice at all
Saying and doing are chocolate and concrete
Sometimes we can choose the path we follow. Sometimes our choices are made for us. And sometimes we have no choice at all
Saying and doing are chocolate and concrete
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
I've been relatively excited about this film, but I will say that I'm not a big fan of this Enterprise. What's with the extra shit built onto the nacelles? I don't think the teaser version had that, and it looked damn fine.
That said, it may well grow on me. I thought the E-E looked fugly in the first few pics but it was pretty sweet in motion.
I think we will have to get used to the idea that this film may tweak canon a bit. That's nothing new...Roddenberry had kind of a love-hate relationship with the old show during the NextGen years. They may well handwave the different looks with one or both of the following:
1. Spock going back in time changes everything (and allows for more "reboot" movies and/or a show).
2. NCC-1701 receives another refit between this film and "The Cage." IIRC the ship was over forty years old at the time of its destruction (Dialogue in Star Trek III got it wrong, failing to account for info introduced in "The Mengearie") and there are enough unaccounted for years to squeeze in another refit.
But yeah, the film already "refits" all the actors so I was expecting a new version of the Constitution-class. Just...will take some getting used to.
(Here's a silly thought...from what I hear the writing/creative staff on the film are half canon nuts and half "I liked Wrath of Khan" kind of guys. What if they are taking the position that the Star Trek movies happened but the show itself may not have precisely as presented? I doubt Abrams is a big fan of "The Way to Eden" or "Spock's Brain," and hey, having Chekov as part of the core group so early would explain how he knows Khan in STII.)
That said, it may well grow on me. I thought the E-E looked fugly in the first few pics but it was pretty sweet in motion.
I think we will have to get used to the idea that this film may tweak canon a bit. That's nothing new...Roddenberry had kind of a love-hate relationship with the old show during the NextGen years. They may well handwave the different looks with one or both of the following:
1. Spock going back in time changes everything (and allows for more "reboot" movies and/or a show).
2. NCC-1701 receives another refit between this film and "The Cage." IIRC the ship was over forty years old at the time of its destruction (Dialogue in Star Trek III got it wrong, failing to account for info introduced in "The Mengearie") and there are enough unaccounted for years to squeeze in another refit.
But yeah, the film already "refits" all the actors so I was expecting a new version of the Constitution-class. Just...will take some getting used to.
(Here's a silly thought...from what I hear the writing/creative staff on the film are half canon nuts and half "I liked Wrath of Khan" kind of guys. What if they are taking the position that the Star Trek movies happened but the show itself may not have precisely as presented? I doubt Abrams is a big fan of "The Way to Eden" or "Spock's Brain," and hey, having Chekov as part of the core group so early would explain how he knows Khan in STII.)
"I spit on metaphysics, sir."
"I pity the woman you marry." -Liberty
This is the guy they want to use to win over "young people?" Are they completely daft? I'd rather vote for a pile of shit than a Jesus freak social regressive.
Here's hoping that his political career goes down in flames and, hopefully, a hilarious gay sex scandal. -Tanasinn
"I pity the woman you marry." -Liberty
This is the guy they want to use to win over "young people?" Are they completely daft? I'd rather vote for a pile of shit than a Jesus freak social regressive.
Here's hoping that his political career goes down in flames and, hopefully, a hilarious gay sex scandal. -Tanasinn
You can't expect sodomy to ruin every conservative politician in this country. -Battlehymn Republic
My blog, please check out and comment! http://decepticylon.blogspot.comRe: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
Um...I suspect you may be looking at the shuttlecraft in the foreground. The secondary hull actually looks very smooth and unadorned.The engineering section is particular ugly because it looks like it protruding out to go "MECHANICAL STUFF!"
"I spit on metaphysics, sir."
"I pity the woman you marry." -Liberty
This is the guy they want to use to win over "young people?" Are they completely daft? I'd rather vote for a pile of shit than a Jesus freak social regressive.
Here's hoping that his political career goes down in flames and, hopefully, a hilarious gay sex scandal. -Tanasinn
"I pity the woman you marry." -Liberty
This is the guy they want to use to win over "young people?" Are they completely daft? I'd rather vote for a pile of shit than a Jesus freak social regressive.
Here's hoping that his political career goes down in flames and, hopefully, a hilarious gay sex scandal. -Tanasinn
You can't expect sodomy to ruin every conservative politician in this country. -Battlehymn Republic
My blog, please check out and comment! http://decepticylon.blogspot.com- Ghost Rider
- Spirit of Vengeance
- Posts: 27779
- Joined: 2002-09-24 01:48pm
- Location: DC...looking up from the gutters to the stars
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
Looking closer, you are right. Really it's a tad scrunchy, but for me that's the only detraction. The design is a bit modern and makes me wish more of a reboot completely but it is nice ship. Certainly appeals to me more then Akiraprise and the Ent-D.Anguirus wrote:Um...I suspect you may be looking at the shuttlecraft in the foreground. The secondary hull actually looks very smooth and unadorned.The engineering section is particular ugly because it looks like it protruding out to go "MECHANICAL STUFF!"
MM /CF/WG/BOTM/JL/Original Warsie/ACPATHNTDWATGODW FOREVER!!
Sometimes we can choose the path we follow. Sometimes our choices are made for us. And sometimes we have no choice at all
Saying and doing are chocolate and concrete
Sometimes we can choose the path we follow. Sometimes our choices are made for us. And sometimes we have no choice at all
Saying and doing are chocolate and concrete
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
Thanks for the comparison image...it really drives home just how strong the influence of the movie-Enterprise is. The bottom of the saucer is almost identical. Of course, the movie-prise is one of my favorite designs in all filmed sci-fi, so that's not really a complaint.
"I spit on metaphysics, sir."
"I pity the woman you marry." -Liberty
This is the guy they want to use to win over "young people?" Are they completely daft? I'd rather vote for a pile of shit than a Jesus freak social regressive.
Here's hoping that his political career goes down in flames and, hopefully, a hilarious gay sex scandal. -Tanasinn
"I pity the woman you marry." -Liberty
This is the guy they want to use to win over "young people?" Are they completely daft? I'd rather vote for a pile of shit than a Jesus freak social regressive.
Here's hoping that his political career goes down in flames and, hopefully, a hilarious gay sex scandal. -Tanasinn
You can't expect sodomy to ruin every conservative politician in this country. -Battlehymn Republic
My blog, please check out and comment! http://decepticylon.blogspot.comRe: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
Here's a quick photoshop someone did to remove the shuttles and add in what was cut off in the article image;
- Gandalf
- SD.net White Wizard
- Posts: 16351
- Joined: 2002-09-16 11:13pm
- Location: A video store in Australia
Re: EW.com reveals new Enterprise
I don't mind it, but why doesn't it say Enterprise or NCC-1701 anywhere on it?
"Oh no, oh yeah, tell me how can it be so fair
That we dying younger hiding from the police man over there
Just for breathing in the air they wanna leave me in the chair
Electric shocking body rocking beat streeting me to death"
- A.B. Original, Report to the Mist
"I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately."
- George Carlin
That we dying younger hiding from the police man over there
Just for breathing in the air they wanna leave me in the chair
Electric shocking body rocking beat streeting me to death"
- A.B. Original, Report to the Mist
"I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately."
- George Carlin