Iraq calls destruction of Columbia "Vengeance of Allah&

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2003-02-01 04:07pm

Pablo Sanchez wrote:That is so far over the line that I can hardly believe that you posted it.

What the fuck do you expect me to say about a herd of people who think their highest calling is to kill westerners in the name of their god?

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-02-01 04:11pm

Enlightenment wrote:What the fuck do you expect me to say about a herd of people who think their highest calling is to kill westerners in the name of their god?

Hey, Enlightenment, I guess the best way to make rational judgements is to generalize wildly and incorrectly. I bet you vote in election by deciding which candidate is most handsome--because good-looking people are better.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-02-01 04:13pm

Vertigo1 wrote:You know what....I take back every anti-war comment I've said. Fuck em. Anyone that can mock loss of life like this deserves no sympathy.

Unofficial statements from one or two people in the gov't or street, hardly conclusive of Iraq hating America.

You're letting emotions control your reaction here, give it a short time and you'll see clearer again.

The people at the WCotC website are happy that the shuttle killed 3 non-whites, does that mean all of America should be nuked?

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2003-02-01 04:14pm

Pablo Sanchez: don't stuff words in my mouth.

I will vote for whatever candidate shows the greatest signs of intelligence.

I will tolerate any point of view or political position that does not unjustly seek to harm others. Contemporary Islam, however, has become centered on killing secular, modern, westerners simply because we don't live in the 11the century world idealized in the Koran. The absolute least I can do is return the thought in kind on the principle that it is far better to kill thme before they can kill us.

Strafe · Post by **Strafe** » 2003-02-01 04:28pm

Enlightenment wrote: Contemporary Islam, however, has become centered on killing secular, modern, westerners simply because we don't live in the 11the century world idealized in the Koran.

Um. No.

Fundamentalist extremist Islam yes. Islam as a whole no. There are plenty of Moslems around the world who would like nothing better than to silence Islamic fundies, along with living peacefully with others.

The absolute least I can do is return the thought in kind on the principle that it is far better to kill thme before they can kill us.

Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. The idea that culling millions of people appeals to you, should tell everyone else to simply ignore what you have to say...

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-02-01 04:28pm

Enlightenment wrote:Pablo Sanchez: don't stuff words in my mouth.

I will vote for whatever candidate shows the greatest signs of intelligence.

I will tolerate any point of view or political position that does not unjustly seek to harm others. Contemporary Islam, however, has become centered on killing secular, modern, westerners simply because we don't live in the 11the century world idealized in the Koran. The absolute least I can do is return the thought in kind on the principle that it is far better to kill thme before they can kill us.

Do you actually know any muslims? Have you ever met one who acts like you say all muslims behave? I haven't.

Do you understand the way that the modern media works? The only things that get reported are the things that are worthy of being reported. The news channels and papers aren't going to report about the muslims who are sad about Columbia--it doesn't make good copy. The problem with this policy is that stupid people don't understand that there's a shitload of things the media never reports that have significant bearing on the subject.

Admiral Piett · Post by **Admiral Piett** » 2003-02-01 04:29pm

Enlightenment wrote: Pablo Sanchez: don't stuff words in my mouth.
I will vote for whatever candidate shows the greatest signs of intelligence.

I guess you are referring to these people
http://www.americannaziparty.com/

Enlightenment wrote:
on killing secular, modern, westerners simply because we don't live in the 11the century world idealized in the Koran.

Which would wonderfully apply to american religious wackos who approve the killing of physicians who practice abortions etc

Enlightenment wrote:
The absolute least I can do is return the thought in kind on the principle that it is far better to kill thme before they can kill us.

Congratulations,ladies and gentleman I am glad to present you
the Final Solution.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-02-01 04:34pm

Enlightenment wrote:It has been my opinion since 11 Sept 2001 that the intrinsic value of Muslims--particularly Arab muslims--is a negative quantity. This latest outburst of Islam at its finest has done nothing to lead me to reconsider my assessment.

I agree, but frankly, I also feel that way about all religions; there is some good, but the bad outweighs it. It's always easy to talk about casualties in some foreign land and say "aw, fuck 'em", and I hear those sorts of sentiments all the time. But when people do it to us, we suddenly become all holier-than-thou about it.

The shuttle explosion was a tragedy. But so is every child dying, every brutal murder in Rwanda, every victim of "realpolitik", the pragmatist's approach in which lives in foreign countries are weighed against domestic economic or strategic imperatives.

What Iraq is doing now is simply the same idiotic bullshit they've been pulling all along; I'm sure Rev. Phelps is basically saying the same thing.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-02-01 04:42pm

I fine it ironic that their god is the same one worshiped by 90% of all Americans. Was it also God's work when we bitch slapped them in the Gulf War? How about in a few weeks when we turn Bagdad into a smoking hole in the desert?

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2003-02-01 04:43pm

Admiral Piett wrote:Which would wonderfully apply to american religious wackos who approve the killing of physicians who practice abortions etc

Which is why I don't think the world would be a worse place if their numbers were culled by a few tens of thousands either.

Congratulations,ladies and gentleman I am glad to present you
the Final Solution.

There is one hell of a difference. Hitler had Jews killed simply because they were Jewish. That's racism. I wouldn't object to reducing the number of Muslims because if given the opportunity, they would kill me. That's not racism, that's self-defense.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2003-02-01 04:48pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:Unofficial statements from one or two people in the gov't or street, hardly conclusive of Iraq hating America.

You're letting emotions control your reaction here, give it a short time and you'll see clearer again.

The people at the WCotC website are happy that the shuttle killed 3 non-whites, does that mean all of America should be nuked?

Perhaps I should clarify: I was referring to taking out Saddam, not nuking Iraq off the face of the earth. Either way, I'm going to be playing FS2 for a while to take out all this excess agression. Time to kick some shivan ass....

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-02-01 04:48pm

Rev Phelps wrote:God Almighty has struck this evil nation a great blow yet again, and sends a message to Israel -- separate yourself from this leper colony, and return to God.

As America stirred and woke up on the morning of February 1, 2003, the space shuttle Columbia raced toward it's landing site in Florida. Over Texas, it mysteriously disintegrated as it streaked back to earth. WAKE UP AMERICA!!! THERE WERE NO TERRORISTS FOR YOU TO BLAME THIS ON at 200,000 feet traveling at MACH 6!!!! GOD STRUCK THE SYMBOL OF YOUR MIGHT AND ARROGANCE OUT OF THE SKY!!!

God Bless America

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2003-02-01 04:54pm

Apparently the IAF colonel on board was involved in the air strike against Iraq's nuclear facilities back in '81. I'm not surprised that they think it's Allah's retribution. In any case, NASA better avoid giving shuttles names starting with "c" in the future...

Admiral Piett · Post by **Admiral Piett** » 2003-02-01 04:57pm

Enlightenment wrote:I wouldn't object to reducing the number of Muslims because if given the opportunity, they would kill me. That's not racism, that's self-defense.

Sure,because every muslim wants to kill you.

Where do you actually take this crap from?
Ah let me guess the CNN showed that tape of an handful of palestinians partying,so you jumped to the conclusion that all the Middle east was a big street party.
Sorry,this was not the case.In Iran there were pro usa rallies,and without the government backing there.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-02-01 04:58pm

Vertigo1 wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:Unofficial statements from one or two people in the gov't or street, hardly conclusive of Iraq hating America.

You're letting emotions control your reaction here, give it a short time and you'll see clearer again.

The people at the WCotC website are happy that the shuttle killed 3 non-whites, does that mean all of America should be nuked?
Perhaps I should clarify: I was referring to taking out Saddam, not nuking Iraq off the face of the earth. Either way, I'm going to be playing FS2 for a while to take out all this excess agression. Time to kick some shivan ass....

In which case I agree, Saddam is a cancer of that region.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-02-01 04:58pm

Rev Phelps wrote:God Almighty has struck this evil nation a great blow yet again, and sends a message to Israel -- separate yourself from this leper colony, and return to God.

As America stirred and woke up on the morning of February 1, 2003, the space shuttle Columbia raced toward it's landing site in Florida. Over Texas, it mysteriously disintegrated as it streaked back to earth. WAKE UP AMERICA!!! THERE WERE NO TERRORISTS FOR YOU TO BLAME THIS ON at 200,000 feet traveling at MACH 6!!!! GOD STRUCK THE SYMBOL OF YOUR MIGHT AND ARROGANCE OUT OF THE SKY!!!

That little asshole wasted no time, eh?

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-02-01 05:00pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:
Rev Phelps wrote:God Almighty has struck this evil nation a great blow yet again, and sends a message to Israel -- separate yourself from this leper colony, and return to God.

As America stirred and woke up on the morning of February 1, 2003, the space shuttle Columbia raced toward it's landing site in Florida. Over Texas, it mysteriously disintegrated as it streaked back to earth. WAKE UP AMERICA!!! THERE WERE NO TERRORISTS FOR YOU TO BLAME THIS ON at 200,000 feet traveling at MACH 6!!!! GOD STRUCK THE SYMBOL OF YOUR MIGHT AND ARROGANCE OUT OF THE SKY!!!
God Bless America

That's from a real person?! I thought it was made up or said by a fanatical Iraqi politician!

What kind of a sick fuck says that?!

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-02-01 05:00pm

Darth Wong wrote: That little asshole wasted no time, eh?

He wouldn't want to be left behind by the islamic fundies, would he?

I say lock them all in a cell and throw away the key. I'm sure they'd get along.

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2003-02-01 05:01pm

Rev Phelps wrote:God Almighty has struck this evil nation a great blow yet again, and sends a message to Israel -- separate yourself from this leper colony, and return to God.

Maybe we should send this guy as a 'peace envoy' to Iraq, about, oh, two weeks from now when the weather forecast for Baghdad reads 'cruise missile downpour, heavy at times mixed with 5000lb bombs....'

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-02-01 05:01pm

Darth Wong wrote:That little asshole wasted no time, eh?

God must have tipped him off beforehand, seeing how they are so close and all.

Admiral Valdemar wrote:That's from a real person?! I thought it was made up or said by a fanatical Iraqi politician!

What kind of a sick fuck says that?!

The Reverand Fred Phelps, Winsboro Baptist Church, Topeka, Kansas.

http://www.godhatesamerica.com

Alex Moon · Post by **Alex Moon** » 2003-02-01 05:04pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Rev Phelps wrote:God Almighty has struck this evil nation a great blow yet again, and sends a message to Israel -- separate yourself from this leper colony, and return to God.

As America stirred and woke up on the morning of February 1, 2003, the space shuttle Columbia raced toward it's landing site in Florida. Over Texas, it mysteriously disintegrated as it streaked back to earth. WAKE UP AMERICA!!! THERE WERE NO TERRORISTS FOR YOU TO BLAME THIS ON at 200,000 feet traveling at MACH 6!!!! GOD STRUCK THE SYMBOL OF YOUR MIGHT AND ARROGANCE OUT OF THE SKY!!!
That little asshole wasted no time, eh?

Nope.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-02-01 05:05pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:That little asshole wasted no time, eh?
God must have tipped him off beforehand, seeing how they are so close and all.

Admiral Valdemar wrote:That's from a real person?! I thought it was made up or said by a fanatical Iraqi politician!

What kind of a sick fuck says that?!
The Reverand Fred Phelps, Winsboro Baptist Church, Topeka, Kansas.

http://www.godhatesamerica.com

His name rings a bell, I can only hope a piece of shuttle debris still in the sky strikes him down one day as "an act of God". That's justice.

Alex Moon · Post by **Alex Moon** » 2003-02-01 05:08pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:
Wicked Pilot wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:That little asshole wasted no time, eh?
God must have tipped him off beforehand, seeing how they are so close and all.

Admiral Valdemar wrote:That's from a real person?! I thought it was made up or said by a fanatical Iraqi politician!

What kind of a sick fuck says that?!
The Reverand Fred Phelps, Winsboro Baptist Church, Topeka, Kansas.

http://www.godhatesamerica.com
His name rings a bell, I can only hope a piece of shuttle debris still in the sky strikes him down one day as "an act of God". That's justice.

I was just thinking the same thing.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » 2003-02-01 05:12pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Rev Phelps wrote:God Almighty has struck this evil nation a great blow yet again, and sends a message to Israel -- separate yourself from this leper colony, and return to God.

As America stirred and woke up on the morning of February 1, 2003, the space shuttle Columbia raced toward it's landing site in Florida. Over Texas, it mysteriously disintegrated as it streaked back to earth. WAKE UP AMERICA!!! THERE WERE NO TERRORISTS FOR YOU TO BLAME THIS ON at 200,000 feet traveling at MACH 6!!!! GOD STRUCK THE SYMBOL OF YOUR MIGHT AND ARROGANCE OUT OF THE SKY!!!
That little asshole wasted no time, eh?

Why must people like that give religion everywhere a bad name?

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-02-01 05:15pm

Falcon wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:
Rev Phelps wrote:God Almighty has struck this evil nation a great blow yet again, and sends a message to Israel -- separate yourself from this leper colony, and return to God.

As America stirred and woke up on the morning of February 1, 2003, the space shuttle Columbia raced toward it's landing site in Florida. Over Texas, it mysteriously disintegrated as it streaked back to earth. WAKE UP AMERICA!!! THERE WERE NO TERRORISTS FOR YOU TO BLAME THIS ON at 200,000 feet traveling at MACH 6!!!! GOD STRUCK THE SYMBOL OF YOUR MIGHT AND ARROGANCE OUT OF THE SKY!!!
That little asshole wasted no time, eh?

Why must people like that give religion everywhere a bad name?

Everything has a balance, for all the good in the world there has to be bad to counter it.

Same here; for all the intellect in the world there is a growing quantity of stupidity.