I thought I'd post a suggestion for a Coliseum debate, and see who else wanted to add their suggestions.
My idea was a debate on the value of human specifically (as opposed to robotic) space exploration. This is an issue I'm personally very interested in, and I'd like to see it as a formal debate.
I also feel that this topic is one that hasn't really be done to death, and while not especially contentious, is one where we can probably find some disagreement. Finally, it lends itself to the level of scientific knowledge and the futuristic focus of this board.
Note: if asked I would be willing to debate the affirmative, though I do not pretend to be the individual most capable of debating this (not by a long shot) and I'd probably prefer not to do so until Christmas holidays.
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I'd love to see Stas go on about Russian geopolitical stuff against someone. Not Kane Starkiller, as he sucks.
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Why not Kane? He's one of the civil and reasonable opponents, not some sort of raving bloke that we had on this board some time earlier.
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I will debate anyone who thinks that the BCS as it is should stand and does not believe in the idea of a NCAA Football Playoff! Also willing to debate on more subjective things like which Ninja Turtle was the best Ninja Turtle etc...etc...
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:I'd love to see Stas go on about Russian geopolitical stuff against someone. Not Kane Starkiller, as he sucks.
Though its not a debate I get very involved in (probably due to lack of knowledge), I second this idea.
"I know its easy to be defeatist here because nothing has seemingly reigned Trump in so far. But I will say this: every asshole succeeds until finally, they don't. Again, 18 months before he resigned, Nixon had a sky-high approval rating of 67%. Harvey Weinstein was winning Oscars until one day, he definitely wasn't."-John Oliver
"The greatest enemy of a good plan is the dream of a perfect plan."-General Von Clauswitz, describing my opinion of Bernie or Busters and third partiers in a nutshell.
I SUPPORT A NATIONAL GENERAL STRIKE TO REMOVE TRUMP FROM OFFICE.
Shroom Man 777 wrote:I'd love to see Stas go on about Russian geopolitical stuff against someone. Not Kane Starkiller, as he sucks.
Better yet, let them argue against their stance.
What would having Stas argue for American ABMs in Poland and IRBMs in Turkey, and Kane arguing against perestroika and glasnost in favor of the re-installment of the Stasi in the German Democratic Republic achieve? I mean, sure, they both would have to wear goatees, but so what?
Stas wrote:Why not Kane? He's one of the civil and reasonable opponents, not some sort of raving bloke that we had on this board some time earlier.
Okay, he'd be cool then. He just came off as kind of brick-wallish in his anti-Russianism. I've been itching for a Coliseum debate on Russia ever since that other guy in that other thread, I think back during the Georgian conflict.
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:I'd love to see Stas go on about Russian geopolitical stuff against someone. Not Kane Starkiller, as he sucks.
Better yet, let them argue against their stance.
What would having Stas argue for American ABMs in Poland and IRBMs in Turkey, and Kane arguing against perestroika and glasnost in favor of the re-installment of the Stasi in the German Democratic Republic achieve? I mean, sure, they both would have to wear goatees, but so what?
It will be fun and interesting to watch.
Humans are such funny creatures. We are selfish about selflessness, yet we can love something so much that we can hate something.
A while ago, one of the proposed topics for a Russia debate was "Are Russia and the United States rivals?"
The idea behind it was that you can get a good idea for how one will respond to a lot of the issues in US-Russian relations based on how they interpret that question. Since there isn't really a consensus on how US-Russian relations should be approached in either country, it might be a good place to start before getting into a more nuanced issue like arms control or the crisis over Georgia.
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Right now, we've got the Bubble-vs-Alyrium round coming next week, the Intelligent Design debate with Bubble Boy serving as a Devil's Advocate.
There's another debate scheduled for the end of December/Early January, I can't remember what that entails...
The "Are Russia & the US Rivals" is a good idea; one has also been proposed about "Jedi Morality", presumably looking over such things as the Jedi being a 'guardian of peace and justice' while, for example, using child soldiers.
So even as we are forming the standards, we are developing a full plate.
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Btw, if we are going to ensure the program schedule is being followed, perhaps a scientific debate motion should be made soon?
Proposal for January scientific debate: This house believe that acupuncture can cure certain illness. ( As always, the government can set up the context of that debate and define the meaning of that motion).
Humans are such funny creatures. We are selfish about selflessness, yet we can love something so much that we can hate something.
ray245 wrote:There is a historical debate going on as well.
Btw, if we are going to ensure the program schedule is being followed, perhaps a scientific debate motion should be made soon?
Proposal for January scientific debate: This house believe that acupuncture can cure certain illness. ( As always, the government can set up the context of that debate and define the meaning of that motion).
Right now, it looks like things are booked, or developing momentum for being booked.
Trust me, soon there'll be some lag months where we can go to the scheduled ideas; I wager around summer, as school participation drops off, we'll see less momentum and more of an opening for scheduled debates.
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Coyote wrote:There's another debate scheduled for the end of December/Early January, I can't remember what that entails...
The Duchess and me will have a lovely chat about the grand strategy of the Roman Empire as proposed by Luttwak, with me arguing against his ideas about the defense of the Empire and her arguing in favor of them. Of course, that may be subject to change if her or my workload increases, but we will definitely get to it.
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Coyote wrote:Right now, we've got the Bubble-vs-Alyrium round coming next week, the Intelligent Design debate with Bubble Boy serving as a Devil's Advocate.
I'll pop in here and mention that my beginning arguement is pretty much wrapped up and now I'm just proof reading and tidying it up to the best of my ability.
So there won't be any issues of me getting it up, barring anything serious like data loss or real life problems.
"Now let us be clear, my friends. The fruits of our science that you receive and the many millions of benefits that justify them, are a gift. Be grateful. Or be silent." -Modified Quote
Coyote wrote:Right now, we've got the Bubble-vs-Alyrium round coming next week, the Intelligent Design debate with Bubble Boy serving as a Devil's Advocate.
I'll pop in here and mention that my beginning arguement is pretty much wrapped up and now I'm just proof reading and tidying it up to the best of my ability.
So there won't be any issues of me getting it up, barring anything serious like data loss or real life problems.
I suppose I should get mine written up then. Break out the Karl popper and the !Science!
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:I suppose I should get mine written up then. Break out the Karl popper and the !Science!
Are we both making opening arguements?
I was under the impression the 'victim' of these debates makes the first arguements, upon which our 'hero' begins to ravage them?
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:I suppose I should get mine written up then. Break out the Karl popper and the !Science!
Are we both making opening arguements?
I was under the impression the 'victim' of these debates makes the first arguements, upon which our 'hero' begins to ravage them?
Either way works for me
It would make more sense, I'd think. Otherwise we're needlessly doubling the amount of posting to accomplish the same goal.
Besides, I wrote mine up first and I'm eagerly looking forward to your attack on it.
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Looks like Bubble will be opening the Attack Round! Lookin' forward to it!
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Coyote wrote:Looks like Bubble will be opening the Attack Round! Lookin' forward to it!
Given tomorrow is deadline day and my first post is ready to go, I'll leave it to you Coyote to inform when and where to submit my first post?
Or will tomorrow merely be the time I have access and can post the opening arguement in the Coliseum?
"Now let us be clear, my friends. The fruits of our science that you receive and the many millions of benefits that justify them, are a gift. Be grateful. Or be silent." -Modified Quote
You should open your first round in the Coliseum-- I believe you have access already..?
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Coyote wrote:You should open your first round in the Coliseum-- I believe you have access already..?
Not yet from what I can tell, but then it's only 11:40 PM for me. I'll check back tomorrow.
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Coyote wrote:You should open your first round in the Coliseum-- I believe you have access already..?
Not yet from what I can tell, but then it's only 11:40 PM for me. I'll check back tomorrow.
Note: Guess I should've actually read the announcements in the Coliseum. One of the staff will be opening the thread to get things started.
"Now let us be clear, my friends. The fruits of our science that you receive and the many millions of benefits that justify them, are a gift. Be grateful. Or be silent." -Modified Quote
The Romulan Republic wrote:I thought I'd post a suggestion for a Coliseum debate, and see who else wanted to add their suggestions.
Anal sex vs. vaginal sex. Because once in a while we should have a fun debate for entertainment purposes & nothing else.
aerius: I'll vote for you if you sleep with me. Lusankya: Deal!
Say, do you want it to be a threesome with your wife? Or a foursome with your wife and sister-in-law? I'm up for either.
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