Lonestar wrote:I'm kinda surprised Stas isn't throwing a fit at the name of the MESS exercise(which, of course, is just another shade of Red...)
In that case, I propose the next exercise be CARDINAL AURORA (Red Dawn).
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This is the price of war,
We rise with noble intentions,
And we risk all that is pure..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, Forever (Rome: Total War)
"On and on, through the years,
The war continues on..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, We Are All One (Medieval 2: Total War)
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Lonestar wrote:I'm kinda surprised Stas isn't throwing a fit at the name of the MESS exercise(which, of course, is just another shade of Red...)
In that case, I propose the next exercise be CARDINAL AURORA (Red Dawn).
Might I recommend Alizarin Schism.
Ryan Thunder wrote:Obvious things: My post count is over 50, less than 1000, so the annual Miratian GDP is $750 billion, population of 15 million, 125 thousand square km, etc.
No.
Also, where do you plan on locating yourself?
This is an empty country and I am it's king, and I should not be allowed to touch anything.
Miratian GDP should be in the vicinity of $400 billion. I'd suggest the F-ing continent, simply because there's still a few spots that aren't in use (Ford Prefect's country).
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Ryan, you'll have to pick up a delineated country that's been declared an NPC so far, though a few areas are IIRC unnamed or unclaimed. I believe there's a big country outlined in the Frequesuan interior, west of the CFR, that would've been Ford Prefect if he'd played. You could claim it, if the Frequesuan players don't quite mind that is.
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Steve wrote:Ryan, you'll have to pick up a delineated country that's been declared an NPC so far, though a few areas are IIRC unnamed or unclaimed. I believe there's a big country outlined in the Frequesuan interior, west of the CFR, that would've been Ford Prefect if he'd played. You could claim it, if the Frequesuan players don't quite mind that is.
Ryan Thunder wrote:Obvious things: My post count is over 50, less than 1000, so the annual Miratian GDP is $750 billion, population of 15 million, 125 thousand square km, etc.
No.
Oh, dammit to hell. You just had to knock everything down a notch after I saw it higher. Now I have to rebuild my military.
Addendum: Oh, great... I don't even get to keep my 5th-generation fighters.
Also, where do you plan on locating yourself?
On a coastline, if possible. Is there a consolidated map?
I know the Caymans are unclaimed as is at least one or two of the nations at the tips of Shepland but all three of those countires come with the obvious hassle of having to conform your politics to the fact that you have huge over-bearing neighbors nearby with a vested interest in seeing things done their way.
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Does somebody want to announce my rise to power and the creation of Miratia on their news network? I'll add some stuff tomorrow detailing the actual 'exchange' of power and my first actions as Leader, one of which will be the creation of a special committee to decide on an appropriate title for my new position of power.
Ryan Thunder wrote:#9 looks promising. What resources does it have? Who or what are 10 and 7?
#9 is the Autonomous Republic of South Frequesque. #10 is now controlled by me (in addition to my main holding in north Messamerica). The AFSR has recently been in a war with the former Duchy of Westchester AKA Imperial Colony of Tian Jiao. It's capital city is Livorno, located on the coast. It is a semi-socialist state (though if you want to play it, I'd suggest a revolution). It's navy currently consists of 5 FFG-7 class frigates. The vast majority of it's air force no longer exists. Ditto a good portion of it's army.
I would not suggest using it, simply because it has a history, and you'd have to play in accordance with that history. That history would severely restrict your capabilities well below what you could have.
"preemptive killing of cops might not be such a bad idea from a personal saftey[sic] standpoint..." --Keevan Colton
"There's a word for bias you can't see: Yours." -- William Saletan
Does somebody want to announce my rise to power and the creation of Miratia on their news network? I'll add some stuff tomorrow detailing the actual 'exchange' of power and my first actions as Leader, one of which will be the creation of a special committee to decide on an appropriate title for my new position of power.
Dude that's your job We'll announce that we are opening embassies and begining to bribe all of your officials to serve our intelligence staffs but your rise to pwoer is your post to make.
SDNet World Nation: Wilkonia
Armourer of the WARWOLVES
ASVS Vet's Association (Class of 2000)
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"I put no stock in religion. By the word religion I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much religion in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. "
-Kingdom of Heaven
Ryan Thunder wrote:#9 looks promising. What resources does it have? Who or what are 10 and 7?
#9 is the Autonomous Republic of South Frequesque. #10 is now controlled by me (in addition to my main holding in north Messamerica). The AFSR has recently been in a war with the former Duchy of Westchester AKA Imperial Colony of Tian Jiao. It's capital city is Livorno, located on the coast. It is a semi-socialist state (though if you want to play it, I'd suggest a revolution). It's navy currently consists of 5 FFG-7 class frigates. The vast majority of it's air force no longer exists. Ditto a good portion of it's army.
I would not suggest using it, simply because it has a history, and you'd have to play in accordance with that history. That history would severely restrict your capabilities well below what you could have.
Oh.
Anywhere else with a coastline, then? I don't want to be land-locked. Land-locked states can't have navies. Nations without navies have to rely on those who do to transport their things, and then theres a huge mark-up, of course...
CmdrWilkens wrote:Dude that's your job
I figured it might be, but given that the country's in tatters I doubt it would be from the perspective of anything that I have control over.
We'll announce that we are opening embassies and begining to bribe all of your officials to serve our intelligence staffs but your rise to pwoer is your post to make.
11 still gets you access to the largest navigable waterway in the world. International law prevents me from denying you passage along that waterway, so you could still be able to have cargo ships et al visit. Of course, naval ships aren't required to be given passage, but forgoing a large navy makes it easier to fund an air force and army, which are possibly more important when sharing a border with potentially hostile neighbors.
Alternatively, I suppose you could do a coup in 17 or 18. 2 is also a possible location.
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Fingolfin, dude...how is the international pharma giant GSK a "smaller company"? And how can you bankrupt them without price dumping?
You won't make PolPharma bankrupt, since they will already sell their drugs at cost, and any losses will be eaten by the government.
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Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
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PeZook wrote:Fingolfin, dude...how is the international pharma giant GSK a "smaller company"? And how can you bankrupt them without price dumping?
You won't make PolPharma bankrupt, since they will already sell their drugs at cost, and any losses will be eaten by the government.
2 big companies, well government funded vs 1 private company.
Well you know, that depends on how much losses your government wants to borne. (and mine as well)
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Also, Miranda will fly in space. Yay? Who knows...
JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. - NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
Also, Miranda will fly in space. Yay? Who knows...
And when they choke, we swoop in and buy their patents up.
STGOD: Byzantine Empire Your spirit, diseased as it is, refuses to allow you to give up, no matter what threats you face... and whatever wreckage you leave behind you.
Kreia
I have to echo support for you taking #11. It would also let you wield major influence among the FTO when it comes to ongoing efforts to stabilize the CFR (#13). I would recommend, however, that in your internal map you make your northern borderlands sparsely populated and mostly forest and wilderness, since the zone on your north is primarily unclaimed wilderness with the exception of new enclaves made by various Frequesuan nations.
And having no Navy is an advantage since you can focus on your Air Force and Army.
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American Conservatism is about the exercise of personal responsibility without state interference in the lives of the citizenry..... unless, of course, it involves using the bludgeon of state power to suppress things Conservatives do not like.
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We already have a 2-6000 kg to LEO launcher right?
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Kreia
Steve wrote:I have to echo support for you taking #11. It would also let you wield major influence among the FTO when it comes to ongoing efforts to stabilize the CFR (#13). I would recommend, however, that in your internal map you make your northern borderlands sparsely populated and mostly forest and wilderness, since the zone on your north is primarily unclaimed wilderness with the exception of new enclaves made by various Frequesuan nations.
And having no Navy is an advantage since you can focus on your Air Force and Army.
Well, that settles it, then. #11 it is. I still have to fix my military, I'll get that over with now and post up some maps an what have you later today.
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:We already have a 2-6000 kg to LEO launcher right?
I know I'm launching mid-sized Delta's that should be able to put roughly 750-1500 kg into GTO so I'm rather assuming I'm not that much further ahead of everyone else.
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-Kingdom of Heaven
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:We already have a 2-6000 kg to LEO launcher right?
I know I'm launching mid-sized Delta's that should be able to put roughly 750-1500 kg into GTO so I'm rather assuming I'm not that much further ahead of everyone else.
Hmm.. I have a DSP-1 type probe to launch next year. If no one in FASTA has the rocket, I'll go to you? I need a Delta II rocket type for the probe.
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Kreia
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:We already have a 2-6000 kg to LEO launcher right?
I know I'm launching mid-sized Delta's that should be able to put roughly 750-1500 kg into GTO so I'm rather assuming I'm not that much further ahead of everyone else.
Hmm.. I have a DSP-1 type probe to launch next year. If no one in FASTA has the rocket, I'll go to you? I need a Delta II rocket type for the probe.
Sure, right now the biggest launcher I've got is a 3923 which, based on launch history, should put roughly 1000kg into GTO. If its going to be next year as in mid-2012 or later I should have the Castor 4A ready which means I could launch a 6923 for a payload average of 1500kg into GTO. It wouldn't exactly be a Delta-II since I have the RS-27 but not the RS-27A main engine.
Roughly about late-2014 to mid-2015 I should have the GEM-40 ready and then I'd be looking at the 7924/7925 as my biggest launcher so we would be looking at roughly 2000kg to GTO.
*Edited because I thought we were talking DPS instead of your acronymn DSP so I've removed the faulty reference.
SDNet World Nation: Wilkonia
Armourer of the WARWOLVES
ASVS Vet's Association (Class of 2000)
Former C.S. Strowbridge Gold Ego Award Winner MEMBER of the Anti-PETA Anti-Facist LEAGUE
"I put no stock in religion. By the word religion I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much religion in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. "
-Kingdom of Heaven
We'll announce that we are opening embassies and begining to bribe all of your officials to serve our intelligence staffs but your rise to pwoer is your post to make.
