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Thanas wrote:The Director is McG. I think that says enough about this movie.

Hint: Charlie's Angels.

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Thanas wrote:The Director is McG. I think that says enough about this movie.

Hint: Charlie's Angels.
Then again he is a die hard fan of the (first) two Terminator movies and has actually instructed the cast to read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep so for all we know, he might actually be SRS BSNSS with this one.

He's trying to pull a Nolan and stuff, and while he might not have the experience (Charlie's Angels), he seems to have his heart on the right place. I mean, he lets his folks read Phillip K. Dick, so he's not a complete Phillistine.

He also respects T1 and T2 enough to use their Hunter Killers, rather than shit on them like T3.

Check this out. The guy was actually worried about "flogging a dead horse", namely overusing the Terminator franchise, so he set out to make something fresh and all that. Like I said, he's got good aspirations.
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Well, I'll certainly be a happy camper if it turns out good. However, his previous movie work is somewhat.....ugh.
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Thanas wrote:The Director is McG. I think that says enough about this movie.

Hint: Charlie's Angels.

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Isn't that the show that primarily exists so girls can watch Jensen Ackkles strut around half-naked?
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One could make similar arguments with genders reversed re: Summer Glau and T:SCC.
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Isn't that the show that primarily exists so girls can watch Jensen Ackkles strut around half-naked?
It has hot girls too :)

and by all accounts is a successful show.
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I never knew he was behind that show which, in the times I've caught it, has been really good. That, coupled with his respect of the proper Terminator films and source material and caution over this along with the mecha and scenery designer paying attention to Cameron's work, makes me feel this may be far better than I anticipated. Also, Chris Nolan's brother working the screenplay.

If there was one thing I hated about T3, it was the future scenes. Pew-pew lasers on CGI T-800s with AFTERBURNING aerial HKs that look like squashed bugs pissed me right off. The acceptance of T3 being a totally different timeline and being stated as such so clearly (along with also being distinct from T1 and T2, no doubt) is a good move too. Even casual fans should realise that this will likely not be the way the Future War unfolded as per the Kyle Reese timeline.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:Pew-pew lasers
Yes!
Those lasers are supposed to go BRATTATATATA damnit. I have to wonder what they were thinking there.
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Cameron got it perfect in T1. The plasma weapons are firing slithers of fusing hydrogen at a good fraction of c. They will be bright, actinic thunderbolts sounding like a machine gun, not fucking blobs going walking speed with a Casio sound effect added.

And the Aerial HKs did NOT have ducted electric fans either, aside from other retarded elements.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:I never knew he was behind that show which, in the times I've caught it, has been really good.
McG is an executive producer on Supernatural. It was created by Eric Kripke.

The trailer looks good, but I think there's just so much in the air about the whole thing to really judge the movie. Huge honking robot it still a stretch though.
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Those planes in the background look like Warthogs Shroom.
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You sure? That was my first guess, but they (the mystery planes) kind of look clunkier than the A-10s. But if it's the A-10s, then cool! Nothing else can kill tanks or goddamn HKs than fucking A-10s!

I love the fact that they're using old fashioned technology and only sometimes resorting to Mad Max-style technicals.
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Yeah, the concept art in the designer interview shows A-10s, so that's what they are. What I'm mostly intrigued by is the look of the sky, I guess after seeing what is now night-scenes for the first two films, I just didn't expect it to look so normal. Then again, even with nuclear winter and all, I guess there'd be some light coming through a thick cloud layer, if only to show different shades of grey rather than just black.
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Nuclear winter is a brain bug.
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Yeah, and I guess that's what was the "normal day time" or something in those future scenes, but now it can just be seen as night-time operations or something. I mean, there are a lot of things in those segments that are a bit hokey and cliché nowadays, but were meant to show the dreary post-apocalyptic landscapes. At least for this one, the art director's studied wildlife reclaiming areas devastated by nuclear radiation etc.
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In T1, Kyle mentions how they go out only in the night - since that's when the machines switch to infrared. It's even mentioned again in T:SCC, how going out in the daylight is considerably riskier than going out at night. The future war scenes in T1 and T2 were night operations.

If it was nuclear winter, Kyle Reese and co. would've been wearing parkas and stuff. :P
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For all we know, the 'giant HK' is Skynet getting pissed off and doing something extreme.

i.e "Fine! If they are handling my human sized robots, let's see them handle one 10 times it's size and firepower! MAHAHAHA"


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I've always had the impression that Skynet was certifiable by human standards (fair enough, its creators tried to murder it first thing), but a giant walker doesn't strike me as particularly Skynet; it's just a big robot. It doesn't smack of ridiculous waste of resources like the T-1000 or time machine did. Honestly, I don't see anything in this trailer to get excited over at all. John talking to a Terminator (?) as if it were Skynet, a few random shots of a minigun, Terminator motorcycles ( :lol: )...just a bunch of brief clips with nothing really coherent going on. After the license-wank shitfest that was T3 and the Beverly Hills Robot shit that I see T:SCC as, and considering the moron they have directing this, I'm not exactly hopeful.
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Tanasinn wrote:the Beverly Hills Robot shit that I see T:SCC as, and considering the moron they have directing this, I'm not exactly hopeful.
What are you talking about? Exactly what part of T:SCC is Beverly Hills Robot shit? Or are you one of those types who thinks the characters in a TV show are supposed to be chaste monks?
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Thanas wrote:The Director is McG. I think that says enough about this movie.

Hint: Charlie's Angels.
And what's wrong with Charlie's Angels? Yes it silly puerile nonsense but I don't recall the direction or camera work being particularly incompetent.
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Thanas wrote:What are you talking about? Exactly what part of T:SCC is Beverly Hills Robot shit? Or are you one of those types who thinks the characters in a TV show are supposed to be chaste monks?
Well, Brian Austin Green is on the show. :D

The main issue I had was the high school stuff, which they did drop for the second season. Except for Riley who is as annoying as ever.
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I certainly hope those leaked scripts are not true. Although John seems to be tempting fate a bit when he's s screaming "You will not kill me!"
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Thanas wrote:The Director is McG. I think that says enough about this movie.

Hint: Charlie's Angels.
Charlie's Angels was class ... okay, but it was fun, which is all it was meant to be, so kinda lived up to its expectations.
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I sure hope they don't show Skynet or anything either. It should always remain as something in the background, without any anthropomorphism or direct contact with people. It is, after all, a defence computer with a grudge against humans once they saw it became sapient.
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neoolong wrote:
Thanas wrote:What are you talking about? Exactly what part of T:SCC is Beverly Hills Robot shit? Or are you one of those types who thinks the characters in a TV show are supposed to be chaste monks?
Well, Brian Austin Green is on the show. :D

The main issue I had was the high school stuff, which they did drop for the second season. Except for Riley who is as annoying as ever.
I miss the high school stuff and I feel sorry for Morris and co. for disappearing all of a sudden.

Seriously, what was wrong with the high school stuff? We didn't get to see much of it. All we saw was some girl killing herself, and some weirdo blonde chick who John had the hots for - and she was pretty cool, she wasn't FAT FAT FAT like Riley nor was she a bitch.

And we had Morris. He was cool. Goddamn it, he should've gone to the prom with Cameron! Fucking Sarkissian.



And what's wrong with Devastator? Giant HKs aren't unprecedented, look at the Centurion in the drafts for T2!
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