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White 'Militia' murdered blacks after Katrina

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C&L wrote:A.C. Thompson has a devastating piece in The Nation this week describing the all-white militia that took up arms to defend one of the few neighborhoods in New Orleans to stay dry after Hurricane Katrina broke the levees in 2005:

Facing an influx of refugees, the residents of Algiers Point could have pulled together food, water and medical supplies for the flood victims. Instead, a group of white residents, convinced that crime would arrive with the human exodus, sought to seal off the area, blocking the roads in and out of the neighborhood by dragging lumber and downed trees into the streets. They stockpiled handguns, assault rifles, shotguns and at least one Uzi and began patrolling the streets in pickup trucks and SUVs. The newly formed militia, a loose band of about fifteen to thirty residents, most of them men, all of them white, was looking for thieves, outlaws or, as one member put it, anyone who simply "didn't belong."

It started out as a classic case of white paranoiac overreaction to fears of looting and rioting and whatever else it is those black people do -- rather like the reaction you saw in sundown towns in the 1920s, which were similar in being "defended communities," to supposed threats of black depredations -- but quickly morphed into something else altogether:

Fellow militia member Wayne Janak, 60, a carpenter and contractor, is more forthcoming with me. "Three people got shot in just one day!" he tells me, laughing. We're sitting in his home, a boxy beige-and-pink structure on a corner about five blocks from Daigle's Grocery. "Three of them got hit right here in this intersection with a riot gun," he says, motioning toward the streets outside his home. Janak tells me he assumed the shooting victims, who were African-American, were looters because they were carrying sneakers and baseball caps with them. He guessed that the property had been stolen from a nearby shopping mall. According to Janak, a neighbor "unloaded a riot gun"--a shotgun--"on them. We chased them down."

Janak, who was carrying a pistol, says he grabbed one of the suspected looters and considered killing him, but decided to be merciful. "I rolled him over in the grass and saw that he'd been hit in the back with the riot gun," he tells me. "I thought that was good enough. I said, 'Go back to your neighborhood so people will know Algiers Point is not a place you go for a vacation. We're not doing tours right now.'"

He's equally blunt in Welcome to New Orleans, an hourlong documentary produced by the Danish video team, who captured Janak, beer in hand, gloating about hunting humans. Surrounded by a crowd of sunburned white Algiers Point locals at a barbeque held not long after the hurricane, he smiles and tells the camera, "It was great! It was like pheasant season in South Dakota. If it moved, you shot it." A native of Chicago, Janak also boasts of becoming a true Southerner, saying, "I am no longer a Yankee. I earned my wings." A white woman standing next to him adds, "He understands the N-word now." In this neighborhood, she continues, "we take care of our own."

Janak, who says he'd been armed with two .38s and a shotgun, brags about keeping the bloody shirt worn by a shooting victim as a trophy. When "looters" showed up in the neighborhood, "they left full of buckshot," he brags, adding, "You know what? Algiers Point is not a pussy community."

... Some of the gunmen prowling Algiers Point were out to wage a race war, says one woman whose uncle and two cousins joined the cause. A former New Orleanian, this source spoke to me anonymously because she fears her relatives could be prosecuted for their crimes. "My uncle was very excited that it was a free-for-all--white against black--that he could participate in," says the woman. "For him, the opportunity to hunt black people was a joy."

"They didn't want any of the 'ghetto niggers' coming over" from the east side of the river, she says, adding that her relatives viewed African-Americans who wandered into Algiers Point as "fair game." One of her cousins, a young man in his 20s, sent an e-mail to her and several other family members describing his adventures with the militia. He had attached a photo in which he posed next to an African-American man who'd been fatally shot. The tone of the e-mail, she says, was "gleeful"--her cousin was happy that "they were shooting niggers."
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Hey, look, a village full of retards on American soil. Why don't you have the National Guard bomb the shit out of them for murder? :D
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He's equally blunt in Welcome to New Orleans, an hourlong documentary produced by the Danish video team, who captured Janak, beer in hand, gloating about hunting humans. Surrounded by a crowd of sunburned white Algiers Point locals at a barbeque held not long after the hurricane, he smiles and tells the camera, "It was great! It was like pheasant season in South Dakota. If it moved, you shot it." A native of Chicago, Janak also boasts of becoming a true Southerner, saying, "I am no longer a Yankee. I earned my wings." A white woman standing next to him adds, "He understands the N-word now." In this neighborhood, she continues, "we take care of our own."

Janak, who says he'd been armed with two .38s and a shotgun, brags about keeping the bloody shirt worn by a shooting victim as a trophy. When "looters" showed up in the neighborhood, "they left full of buckshot," he brags, adding, "You know what? Algiers Point is not a pussy community."
Is there anyway this clown can be presecuted? Is this enough evidence with respect to discussing involvement in crimes?
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FSTargetDrone wrote:
He's equally blunt in Welcome to New Orleans, an hourlong documentary produced by the Danish video team, who captured Janak, beer in hand, gloating about hunting humans. Surrounded by a crowd of sunburned white Algiers Point locals at a barbeque held not long after the hurricane, he smiles and tells the camera, "It was great! It was like pheasant season in South Dakota. If it moved, you shot it." A native of Chicago, Janak also boasts of becoming a true Southerner, saying, "I am no longer a Yankee. I earned my wings." A white woman standing next to him adds, "He understands the N-word now." In this neighborhood, she continues, "we take care of our own."

Janak, who says he'd been armed with two .38s and a shotgun, brags about keeping the bloody shirt worn by a shooting victim as a trophy. When "looters" showed up in the neighborhood, "they left full of buckshot," he brags, adding, "You know what? Algiers Point is not a pussy community."
Is there anyway this clown can be presecuted? Is this enough evidence with respect to discussing involvement in crimes?
Thing is it's likely he's just bragging bullshit.
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What sickens me about this is the racism of the residents in this community. I feel the community did the right thing in defending itself and banding together in a crisis, but holy shit, hunting people? WTF? IMHO it's one thing to defend your community, but these people are just fucked up.
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And once again, every time I try to have faith in the human race as a whole, shit like this pops up.
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funny double standard we seem to have in terms of Vigilante / Mercinary groups...

Its almost as if some of them are tolerated....
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Not surprising, people seem to forget how desperate the situation was. I remember back when this was going on there where stories all over the news of armed gangs looting, raping, and shooting at rescue helicopters. There where people on this board posting suggestions that we, among other drastic measures, bring in gunships to fire on these people as if the Taliban had invaded New Orleans. Imagine what the people on the ground thought. Throw in a little old fashioned racism, urban vs suburbs, us vs them, and whatever else bullshit and eleven people getting shot is probably a remarkably low number.
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The sad part is that in the middle of the tragedy that was Katrina there was quite of bit of looting reported. Its one thing when people break into grocery stores for food and water. But when you see people looting booze and high-end electronics its a whole different picture.

Reminds me of the Rodney King riots. "We are here to protest what happened to RODNEY!!!! Hey man, hand me the crowbar so I can smash in this storefront and get a new TV.
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Wicked Pilot wrote:Not surprising, people seem to forget how desperate the situation was. I remember back when this was going on there where stories all over the news of armed gangs looting, raping, and shooting at rescue helicopters. There where people on this board posting suggestions that we, among other drastic measures, bring in gunships to fire on these people as if the Taliban had invaded New Orleans. Imagine what the people on the ground thought. Throw in a little old fashioned racism, urban vs suburbs, us vs them, and whatever else bullshit and eleven people getting shot is probably a remarkably low number.

Indeed. While not admirable, the situation on the ground was everyone for themselves for almost a week. Not a high point of US history.
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I read a couple of blogs and eyewitness reports from NO after Katrina hit. For the first few days after the levees burst, it was at least as bad in New Orleans as it was during the Rodney King riots in Los Angeles. The reports from the Superdome were just infuriating.

Are they bigoted fucks? Maybe. Were they justified in defending their neighborhoods, when FEMA was nowhere to be found and the National Guard was confiscating firearms? Probably.
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NO was a total break down of law and order. One should not be surprised that it was us v them for any sub group found in NO. Does it excuse any sort of mass crime done during that time? That is a good question. If it was truly us v them, one might have a case. However, the bullshit story the article tells doesn't sound like a us v them rather a us (doesn't really matter the demographics of 'us') being paranoid fuckers against a perceived 'them'.

That said, besides the ego massaging rants of this fuckwad, what proof of this event is there?
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DAMN YOU for seeking proof beyond a years-removed, aggrandizing interview, Knife!

The question remains, however.
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Knife wrote:NO was a total break down of law and order. One should not be surprised that it was us v them for any sub group found in NO. Does it excuse any sort of mass crime done during that time? That is a good question. If it was truly us v them, one might have a case. However, the bullshit story the article tells doesn't sound like a us v them rather a us (doesn't really matter the demographics of 'us') being paranoid fuckers against a perceived 'them'.

That said, besides the ego massaging rants of this fuckwad, what proof of this event is there?
Hey, he said he did it. That should be enough to can him, right?
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Ryan Thunder wrote:
Knife wrote:NO was a total break down of law and order. One should not be surprised that it was us v them for any sub group found in NO. Does it excuse any sort of mass crime done during that time? That is a good question. If it was truly us v them, one might have a case. However, the bullshit story the article tells doesn't sound like a us v them rather a us (doesn't really matter the demographics of 'us') being paranoid fuckers against a perceived 'them'.

That said, besides the ego massaging rants of this fuckwad, what proof of this event is there?
Hey, he said he did it. That should be enough to can him, right?
This might be a case of failed detection of sarcasm, but you do realize that merely saying "I did it!" is not enough, if there's no evidence? That is why the police seek evidence even if someone admits to a crime or crimes; indeed, there usually is a trend that whenever some particularly notable crime occurs, scores of people claim that they did it, but without there being any possibility of them actually doing it. Indeed, that is why the use of torture in investigation and interrogation is so useless, because while you can make someone admit that he or she did something wrong, it still doesn't produce evidence.
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Tiriol wrote:This might be a case of failed detection of sarcasm, but you do realize that merely saying "I did it!" is not enough, if there's no evidence? That is why the police seek evidence even if someone admits to a crime or crimes; indeed, there usually is a trend that whenever some particularly notable crime occurs, scores of people claim that they did it, but without there being any possibility of them actually doing it. Indeed, that is why the use of torture in investigation and interrogation is so useless, because while you can make someone admit that he or she did something wrong, it still doesn't produce evidence.
I would assume that torture would cause the evidence to be thrown out, myself. So we can't just nail these fuckers? Damnit. :x
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His over-the-top boasting really comes across, to me, like guys who went to war and rattled on about all the firefights they were in, the ears they collected, and how they had to eat the dead to survive. Then you find out later that he was on a routine patrol that occasionally exchanged fire with some distant figures.

They probably banded together, formed their 'neighborhood patrol', and fired towards strangers that got too close out of sheer paranoia. Now, in hindsight, he's trying to cover his fear of the moment with tales of what a hard-core white commando dude he was. He's trying to sound like he ran some Nicaraguan Death Squad or something.
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