An issue of Windows security

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2003-02-02 08:01pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
StimNeuro wrote:Oh, and HDS and Einhander Sn0m4n, I wasn't trying to troll, though that did sound very trollish. I merely found that very funny.
K. Just watch yourself a bit more. I've got the death penalty in 12 systems!

LOL!

That would be IG-88, but he's wanted in more

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-02-02 08:07pm

Exonerate wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
StimNeuro wrote:Oh, and HDS and Einhander Sn0m4n, I wasn't trying to troll, though that did sound very trollish. I merely found that very funny.
K. Just watch yourself a bit more. I've got the death penalty in 12 systems!

LOL!
That would be IG-88, but he's wanted in more

Actually I was playing Dr. Evazan, that ugly guy in the Mos Eisley Cantina that got his arm cut off by Obi-Wan.

<Edit> I'm such a fucking Geek..... LMAO!!!

StimNeuro · Post by **StimNeuro** » 2003-02-02 09:27pm

Well, it's about time that death penalty got enforced then.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-02-02 10:32pm

http://grcsucks.com/

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-02-02 10:44pm

I point out on my page that I disagree with the guy's alarmism, but it's still useful to do a quickie port-scan. Gibson's problem is that he thinks his site is worth much more than that.

I can say that after turning various services and ports on and off, GRC does accurately report whether a port is open, closed, or unresponsive. But I wouldn't follow his recommendations on Internet security; he is an alarmist and offers little in the way of solutions besides "get firewall software", which is a no-brainer.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2003-02-02 11:32pm

Has anyone had any luck with XP antispy? I have used it but would like to know what *you* think of it.

Lord_Xerxes · Post by **Lord_Xerxes** » 2003-02-03 12:08am

All stealths here, and I'm using the Windows Xp built in Firewall option...which thank god, saved myself and my roomate from those ultra-fucked Windows Messenger pop-ups that were the death of at least 3 Diablo II characters for him...because they appear ontop of everything (you can't see them in D2, but you hear the noise...and eve if you don't click on the area it's in and click anywhere else, it still minimizes the game.)

After a little bit of research that I actually got from a warning FROM one of those pop-ups, I was able to stave them off.

StimNeuro · Post by **StimNeuro** » 2003-02-03 01:36am

Xerxes, this is off-topic, but have you ever read Psalms 137:9... Manson took the verse completely out of context...

Thread hijacking over
(To quote Pablo: This never would have happened if the thread pilots had been armed.)

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-02-03 01:44am

Lord_Xerxes wrote:All stealths here, and I'm using the Windows Xp built in Firewall option...which thank god, saved myself and my roomate from those ultra-fucked Windows Messenger pop-ups that were the death of at least 3 Diablo II characters for him...because they appear ontop of everything (you can't see them in D2, but you hear the noise...and eve if you don't click on the area it's in and click anywhere else, it still minimizes the game.)

After a little bit of research that I actually got from a warning FROM one of those pop-ups, I was able to stave them off.

About windows messenger:

Did you know you could disable it through it's preferences setting? And if you're talking about "messenger" which is a separate thing in 2k and up, you can disable that through services.

After everything I've done to XP's windows messenger, the only time it ever comes up now is when I run outlook express.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-02-03 01:45am

EmperorMing wrote:Has anyone had any luck with XP antispy? I have used it but would like to know what *you* think of it.

XP antispy. Sounds interesting.

Where can I get it?

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-02-03 01:53am

Darth Wong wrote:I can say that after turning various services and ports on and off, GRC does accurately report whether a port is open, closed, or unresponsive. But I wouldn't follow his recommendations on Internet security; he is an alarmist and offers little in the way of solutions besides "get firewall software", which is a no-brainer.

Well beyond the firewall and getting an all green results on the tests that should be enough at any rate, no?

You have any security tips?

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2003-02-03 01:56am

Shinova wrote:
EmperorMing wrote:Has anyone had any luck with XP antispy? I have used it but would like to know what *you* think of it.

XP antispy. Sounds interesting.

Where can I get it?

Do a search on the internet for it. Some guy in germany made it. Or PM me an email addy and I will send it to you. It's less than a meg in size.

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2003-02-03 02:24am

EmperorMing wrote:Has anyone had any luck with XP antispy? I have used it but would like to know what *you* think of it.

You can find xp antispy here:
http://www.xp-antispy.de/

All of the settings that antispy can do is acceseble in xp thro system manager and the policy editor.

Give it a try and see if you like it.

About Steve Gibson
Good site to start learning some about networking but he is not the messias that he thinks he is.
Also he treats security as a solution that can be fixed with a product.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-02-03 02:26am

Security is an issue that can only be solved by fire, and lots of it.

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-02-03 09:43am

Isn't Gibson the one that says your computer shouldn't respond to anything including pings?

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2003-02-03 09:52am

Crazy_Vasey wrote:Isn't Gibson the one that says your computer shouldn't respond to anything including pings?

Don't know but none of my computers connected to internet responds to ping.

ICMP have some dangerous flaws in it. (ping of death and a bunch of others)

Lord_Xerxes · Post by **Lord_Xerxes** » 2003-02-03 01:54pm

StimNeuro wrote:Xerxes, this is off-topic, but have you ever read Psalms 137:9... Manson took the verse completely out of context...

Thread hijacking over
(To quote Pablo: This never would have happened if the thread pilots had been armed.)

I have read the passage, and I fail to see how it's out of context. Actually, considering the OT's other passages in regards to the killing of children, it doesn't surprise me, and doesn't seem far off from god's pollicies.

"137:6
If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy.

137:7
Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.

137:8
O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.

137:9
Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. "

To me, the context of that is...you are going to die, but you will be happy if you honor me in sacrifice.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2003-02-03 02:10pm

Lord_Xerxes wrote:All stealths here, and I'm using the Windows Xp built in Firewall option...which thank god, saved myself and my roomate from those ultra-fucked Windows Messenger pop-ups that were the death of at least 3 Diablo II characters for him...because they appear ontop of everything (you can't see them in D2, but you hear the noise...and eve if you don't click on the area it's in and click anywhere else, it still minimizes the game.)

Dude, you're going about the wrong way to solve that problem. What you do is login to an administrator account (if you're not using one already), and go into your Admin Tools. Double-click on services, scroll down to "Messenger". Double-click on that, hit the Stop button and set it to "disabled". Click the OK button.

Thats it.

Lord_Xerxes · Post by **Lord_Xerxes** » 2003-02-04 02:31am

Thanks for the help/advice. But just for safties sake, I'll keep the firewall up anyway. Probably better off that way.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2003-02-04 05:38am

Lord_Xerxes wrote:Thanks for the help/advice. But just for safties sake, I'll keep the firewall up anyway. Probably better off that way.

The last firewall I want to use is a Microsoft one. However, if they would make cable/DSL routers like they make their input devices, it could be a different story.