Allah strikes down the trinity of evil!!!

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2003-02-03 04:33pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story ... 16,00.html

Radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza today condemned the dead American, Indian and Israeli members of the Columbia space shuttle mission as a "trinity of evil" who were punished by God.
Mr Hamza - recently banned from preaching at London's Finsbury Park mosque - said Muslims would consider the crash as a "sign from God" because the first Israeli in space was killed over the town of Palestine, Texas.

The Columbia carried one Israeli, Ilan Ramon, and a Hindu, Kalpana Chawla, the first Indian-born woman in space. Five American crew members were also on board when the shuttle disintegrated over Texas on Saturday.

The one-eyed Mr Hamza, who has a hook in place of one hand, said: "The Muslim people see these pilots as criminals. By going into space they would have sharpened the accuracy of their bombs through satellites.

"These missions would increase the number of satellites for military purposes. It would increase the slavery of governance of other countries by America.

"It is a punishment from God. Muslims see it that way. It is a trinity of evil because it carried Americans, an Israeli and a Hindu, a trinity of evil against Islam.

"The fact that the motor of the craft fell on Palestine - all these are messages from God. It is a strong message, for the Israeli, to be taken up there to space and he spoke about the Holocaust, to try to make religious advancement from it and gain some moral high ground, hence you have seen this message over Palestine," Mr Hamza said.

Ghayasuddin Siddiqui, leader of the Muslim parliament of Great Britain, dismissed the comments as "just another of his lunatic pronouncements".

"Most Muslims will see this as a tragedy," he said. "They were very brave and courageous people."

But Anjem Choudray, UK leader of Al-Muhajiroun, a radical group which wants to turn Britain into an Islamic country, sympathised with Mr Hamza's assessment.

"We believe if anyone innocent dies, then that is something we would not wish on anyone. However, this craft did also have one Israeli army official on board, who is famous for his military escapades in Israel.

"Especially at this time, Muslims would not be shedding any tears. Ultimately, the US is a country at war with all Muslims and we know it is a sign from God."

Mr Choudray said he made a distinction between "ordinary" Britons and Americans who he invites to join Islam and live under sharia law, and those involved in war. But he said the US space programme was part of the country's military complex.

"It is linked to the military. These people would be linked to satellite systems spying on Muslims and using the same technology to bomb Muslims and ultimately to commit mass murder in Iraq. Who knows what the real function of this particular mission was? The first Israeli in space - why at this time? A military man going up with Americans into space?" Mr Hamza's frequent controversial comments have made headlines since his anti-western rhetoric came to national attention in the wake of the September 11 terrorist attacks. There have been repeated calls for him to be deported.

The Finsbury Park mosque was raided earlier this month in connection with a terrorism investigation. In the last few years, the mosque has become a centre of radical Islam. Officials say previous worshippers include "shoe-bomber" Richard Reid and extremists who plotted to blow up the US embassy in Paris.

Allah is great!

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-02-03 04:34pm

Let us toast this with THERMONUCLEAR FIRE and smores.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-02-03 04:35pm

Old news.

It was brought up in another thread by Duchess of Zeon.

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2003-02-03 04:37pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Old news.

It was brought up in another thread by Duchess of Zeon.

That was a statement by the Iraqis, wasn't it? This article just came out today, Monday...

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-02-03 04:38pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Old news.

It was brought up in another thread by Duchess of Zeon.

This is a new piece of shit from some guy residing in the UK, a thing I am not proud about my nation for.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-02-03 04:38pm

My apologies.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-02-03 04:38pm

kheegan wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Old news.

It was brought up in another thread by Duchess of Zeon.
That was a statement by the Iraqis, wasn't it? This article just came out today, Monday...

Yeah, it was Iraq.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-02-03 04:39pm

yeahm two diferent statements this is a different muslim fundie asshole.

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-02-03 04:41pm

Is that the one with the hooks? It's about time we sent him back to whatever hellhole he came from.

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2003-02-03 04:42pm

More fundie-fodder I just discovered...the first Jew to go up was killed in the Challenger explosion...

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-02-03 04:44pm

kheegan wrote:More fundie-fodder I just discovered...the first Jew to go up was killed in the Challenger explosion...

no shit!?!

thats just damn peculiar if you ask me

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-02-03 04:45pm

It's a bad coincidnence.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-02-03 04:45pm

Crazy_Vasey wrote:Is that the one with the hooks? It's about time we sent him back to whatever hellhole he came from.

Slough?

Subnormal · Post by **Subnormal** » 2003-02-03 04:48pm

I heard Ilan Ramone wasn't even a Jew? Is that true?

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-02-03 04:49pm

Subnormal wrote:I heard Ilan Ramone wasn't even a Jew? Is that true?

Ilan Ramone? Wasn't he Dee Dee Ramone's little known half-brother?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-02-03 04:50pm

He was rather casual about his religion is what I heard.

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2003-02-03 04:52pm

Subnormal wrote:I heard Ilan Ramone wasn't even a Jew? Is that true?

Considering that his father was a Holocaust survivor, he is obviously a Jew. But Spanky is right...he is a secular Jew. He doesn't even eat kosher normally...

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-02-03 04:54pm

Yeah, he decided to eat kosher during the trip, out of respect to his faith and country, I think.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-02-03 04:55pm

Subnormal wrote:I heard Ilan Ramone wasn't even a Jew? Is that true?

They're sitting shiva for him, so his family's Jewish even of he's not. Ah...found reference...he called himself a "secular Jew," so apparently he was an atheist or agnost who still followed the traditions without necessarily believing the mythos behind them. According to him, the most challenging thing about the shuttle flight was measuring the Sabbath...it's supposed to be from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday, but the shuttle travels through sundown 17 times per day. They determined that it would be measured by Earth reference. He is the first one to eat kosher food in space.

There have been six previous Jewish astronauts:

Dr. Judy Resnik
Dr. Jeff Hoffman
Dr. Ellen Baker (physician)
Dr. Jay Apt
Dr. David Wolf (physician)
Dr. Scott Horowitz (first Jewish commander)

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-02-03 04:57pm

The big deal was that he was the first Israeli astronaut to go into space.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-02-03 05:09pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:This is a new piece of shit from some guy residing in the UK, a thing I am not proud about my nation for.

You can at least be proud that you live in a country with freedom of speech. It's not like you can go to Iran and tell Allah to fuck off.

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2003-02-03 05:12pm

I think what he meant is that he is not proud of someone from the UK saying that.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-02-03 05:15pm

If you take the words of a one-eyed man with a hook instead of a hang seriously, then you probably need help.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-02-03 05:40pm

I wonder if the people in the Middle East are buying what this guy is saying. Basically, it's "Allah did it bcause there was a Jew on board and he hates the infidels".

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-02-03 06:03pm

If Allah really Gave A Shit, shouldn't he be out Smiting The Heathen Nations, blowing up America + Israel with Thunderbolts and Lightning, etc. rather than be dicking around torching Small Mechanical Objects?