World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King

[Darmalus]

Die in a fucking fire Ceepee. Oh, and report his IP to the authorities.

It is being dealt with.

What happened?

[Sharp-kun]

Die in a fucking fire Ceepee. Oh, and report his IP to the authorities.

It is being dealt with.

What happened?

CP >_<

[Lord Revan]

wait just a moment, someone post "you-know-what" on a WoW thread, seriously it's sad what some people will do to get attention.

As vile and immoral their actions are (it's not hard to figure out what was the case), I really can feel that much anger towards them, more pitty for the sad state their lives must be in if they cannot accept that not everyone in the world thinks they're cool and they might, you know unwelcome at some places.

it's just some idiots making impotent (in more ways then one) effort at trying to get back at us (probable) for banning their 1 of their member.

I don't involve myself in debating but I'm starting to think that if this is his reaction to getting banned, the admins were right in their desession to ban Trekdestroyer.

[Oskuro]

Actually, there seems to be a troll attack on SDN in progress, so guess well have to deal with some of this nonsense for a while. Check this HoS thread.

Oh well, put them into a mental /ignore list.

[Rahvin]

Went into Naxx again last night. Two wings were already cleared, but we tackled Military and Construct. Military was cake. I was thinking Construct was, too (we downed Patchwerk without any real trouble, and I found the fight rather enjoyable) until the next boss (can't remember the name, giant fatass with a gas mask and lots of poison gas). We had some coordination issues that stopped us cold until we gave in for the night. A few more tries and we'll get it down Im sure, but I think a big part of our problem was class composition with the specific strategy we were using. We had ranged DPS on the adds...which unfortunately consisted of my gf's Warlock and a Hunter. It was a very melee-heavy group, and we actually had an extra half-healer (I say half-healer because he's vastly undergeared, still wearing greens, just hit 80 like a week ago) when we should have had another DPS.

After Naxx, we decided to hit some quick Heroics to take out our wipe frustrations on something easy. We murdered VH (and the gf got her +hit trinket that she's been wanting), and then took out AN (the daily). I manages to get my 40 Emblems out of the deal, so I picked up my new Emblem trinket (The Egg, with 93 Spellpower and a chance to proc 500+ Haste rating). I also swapped around some gear to bring up my crit percentage a bit, and Holy Light should now have about 33% to crit (and oh am I wishing I could respec for the extra 3% now!). My priority with gear is now to raise my Int and Spellpower, as my shiny new trinket reduces my Holy Light cast time to about 1.5 seconds with all of my other abilities and the haste I have already. If I can get enough Int to push myself to 20k Mana unbuffed, that should also raise my Crit enough that I'll be doing very well. That leaves me with Spellpower as the stat that can improve.

[Minischoles]

Struggling to kill Sapphiron or Malygos simply due to the lack of healers we have right now, quite disappointing as the guild was at this stage back in TBC when we simply wouldn't have the healers to do any T6 or Sunwell and we'd have to call raid after raid.

In happier news though I have a new monitor brought today (24inch ASUS widescreen) and so i redesigned my UI for the resolutions i could get now (1680x1050) and here it is, 2 screenshots, one of just the party with omen and dotimer, and one of a raid view (using AV since i had no raid handy to make a pic)

[CaptainChewbacca]

Two interesting things happened today, the first directly caused the second. The second was that even though I'm level 80, I just found out today that rogues can use bows. The reason I found this out was because I ran Sunwell and won the roll on Thori'dal, the Star's Fury.

Go fig

[Lord Revan]

I've know that for ages, but then my rogue is Kaldorei and alchemist/herbalist so bows are the most "fitting" after thrown weapons

grats on your new bow though

[Ender]

Owing to the >12 inches of snow on the ground here and the fact that they haven't plowed yet, I stayed in last night. I had hit 55 Friday morning after a ST run, so I decided to create a Death Knight.

Holee fuckballs. WotLK skins are absolutely beautiful. The opening quests for the DK are the best 3 ours of gameplay I've seen in this. It is what an MMORPG should be - free form and open, allowing you a great deal of latitude in what you do, but still story orientated with definite progression and changes. The actions of your character really matter.

Plus DKs are fun to play - I'm learning how to manage my DPS on this system, but you do so much hurt and heal yourself in the process so the learning curve is much more gradual.

Right now my only complaint is that I have to grind up skinning and mining to make bank again.

[Darmalus]

We did Naxx 10 last night, cleared the Arachnid Quarter, then we started the Military Quarter. Right as we were handing out assignments for Gothik the Harvester, we lost our PUG DK. We couldnt get any bites for a new PUG DPS, so we 9 manned him (just barely), go us! We wiped several times of the 4 Horsemen, so we decided to give Patchwerk a shot before we called it a night. We wiped twice, at 300k health the first time, and 200k health the second. *sigh* All for lack of 1 DPS.

In other news, I seem to be doing about 2100 DPS, not to bad considering I'm not even close to raid optimized, being frost and all. I can't wait till dual spec comes out, so I can have a FFB build for raids.

[SpacedTeddyBear]

Cleared 10naxx a few days ago. We finally got the rhythm going against Saph, and was able to down him without any problems. Did 25naxx last night, and we got stuck on Patchwerk oddly enough. We have plenty of dps, our healers have been on the ball, our tanks are stacked, but that hateful strike is plowing through us. We're gonna pick it up later tonight....

[Kuja]

The tanking gods have truly smiled upon this paladin. After nearly two full weeks of banging my head against the inscrutiable wall of heroics, I maanged to get all of the following in two days: Red Sword of Courage, Royal Crest of Lordaeron, Seal of the Pantheon, Essence of Gossamer, AND my guildie got enough jewelcrafting dailies done to make the Titanium tanking ring.

To cap it all off, my guild ran this guy for the first time yesterday:



And I got the Seal of the Accord.

(Yeah, that glowing dude that looks like Sarth's about to lunge down at and rip in half? That's me.)

[Kuja]

The tanking gods have truly smiled upon this paladin. After nearly two full weeks of banging my head against the inscrutiable wall of heroics, I maanged to get all of the following in two days: Red Sword of Courage, Royal Crest of Lordaeron, Seal of the Pantheon, Essence of Gossamer, AND my guildie got enough jewelcrafting dailies done to make the Titanium tanking ring.

To cap it all off, my guild ran this guy for the first time yesterday:



And I got the Seal of the Accord.

(Yeah, that glowing dude that looks like Sarth's about to lunge down at and rip in half? That's me. Sometimes I wonder how we tank these guys when we'd practically have to be standing in their mouths to do it.)

[Kuja]

(Whoops, I hit quote instead of edit, can someone fix that?)

[D.Turtle]

We actually had a relatively lag-free raid weak, which enabled us to clear 4 wings in Naxx-25 in 3 hours on Wednesday, clear the rest and Malygos in 1.5 hours on Thursday, thereby having lots of time for Sartharion with 3 adds up (we had done Sarth+2 before our Christmas break).

So, today we went in there and 4 hours later he dies

And guess who won the /rnd roll for the Drake:


Yeah, thats me on the Drake (though sadly the Malygos Drake is pretty much the same model, but armored - it should be the other way around!)

Very nice fight - lots of stuff going on, lots of things to react to, keep an eye on, communicate over TeamSpeak, etc. Most important thing to remember on this fight: Don't give up. There is so much stuff going on, that people will take a while to learn how to properly react, what to do, what not to, where to stand, where to have the camera view, etc. Also, don't give up if some people die - if you kill two dragons and still have 15-20 people standing, you can still get the kill. We had I think 19 still standing when the second dragon went down, and it was quite easy from there on.

Now, we can start doing all the different Achievements - should be lots of fun.

[Teleros]

people will take a while to learn how to properly react, what to do, what not to, where to stand, where to have the camera view, etc.

Still watching people walk into lava walls here .

[Maxentius]

Well as of last Friday, I've got nothing left to bitch about. Three Drakes down.

[Thirdfain]

Here we are living the high life on Kel'Thuzad's throne. Finally got a full clear of Naxx10!

A very thrilling fight; it was a close call. One of our DPS DC'd in the middle of the fight and our adds tank got gibbed (Our priest threw up wings on him when he was ice chained; turns out it does not work unfortunately.) So, I picked up the two adds and Kel; and despite a few VERY close calls we finally downed him. Wicked cool!

[Max]

I play a lvl 80 frostmage on Smolderthorne. Does anyone have any advice on how to get my SP up? Currently it's at 1200ish, and (aside from doing heroics) can't figure out what gear to get to get start maxing it out.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... rn&n=Oopsy

What I'm interested in is advice on any equipment I can get outside of heroics/raids that will up my SP to make me more valuable when I DO go into raids and whatnot. I've been kicked a couple times because my DPS was on the low end. Which, can be really annoying. So I'm just looking to make myself more valuable so I can do more heroics/raids and get even better gear.

On a side note, I am trying to more or less copy http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... nguardbida in terms of armor/items. Particularly with The Turning Tide (drool). However, I don't do arenas, and at least one of the items I need 1600 on personal/team rating. I...don't even know what that means. I, obviously, know what arenas are, but is that 2v2, 3v3, etc? Does it matter? What would be the best versus to do, and what kind of group would a mage be suited for (ie, mage/dk/spriest)?

I guess I'm still a newb at a lot of the end stuff (which I regard arenas as).

[Rahvin]

I can't look at your armory link at the moment because I'm at work, but I'll take a look when I go home for lunch.

In general though, it really shouldn't be hard to get above 1200 SP even without setting foot in a Heroic. Seriously, all of the instances have some decent cloth/weapon drops. Also be sure to do all of the quests in the regular instances - a lot of the rewards are really very good, and you don't need to rely on any sort of drop rate or rolling against other players.

But the good stuff really starts to come when you switch to Heroics. You need to be able to push out at least 1300 DPS or so, but a mage with 1200 SP should be able to do that already. Heroics give about 3 times the rep and drops that are significantly better than in regular mode. You also get Emblems, and the Emblem loot right now is pretty damned good and doesn't cost that many - amulets and offhand items for 25, extremely good trinkets for 40, etc. I'd strongly suggest that you hit Heroics as soon as you can bring enough DPS.

[White Haven]

The only people who really need to do nonheroics before heroics are tanks, and people helping tanks, and even then only for a few days. Most of the heroics are really very easy if you're not still struggling to tie your shoes...just get in there and start wrecking things. Bonus points if you go in with a fixed group, because all of you will bling out in short order.

EDIT: For comparison, here's a tank geared entirely in crafted, heroic drop, and badge gear with the exception of pants (Vault25) and gloves (Naxx25). For gloves, I was wearing Kirin Tor exalted gloves, so those are easy, and for pants, I was wearing the Bolstering Legplates from Violet Hold, which are also quite easy. I haven't done a caster in LK, but my regular group is some combination of ret paladins and rogues, all of whom were fresh 80s when we started, and all of whom are cracking 2k dps now after no more than a week or so.

[White Haven]

Ghetto Edit: Edits don't reset the edit timer, more's the pity. Screw that thing.

Tankadin!

[D.Turtle]

Still watching people walk into lava walls here .

Practice, practice, practice.

Even our kill wasn't clean - I myself died to a void zone during our kill. I healed the Sartharion tank and situated myself on one of those small patches of dirt in the magma so we would always have a healer in range, no matter where the Fire Tsunami comes from. It turns out its easy to miss the void zone if you aren't watching for it, which happens quite easily, as you almost never get one there. Almost being the key word.

Fortunately, my ankh was ready, and I could continue.

Then of course, I had to eat a tail-swipe as a Fire Tsunami was incoming... So I also had to also use one of the battle-rezzes we had available (sometimes it is useful being the raid leader, though it can be quite stressful).

Yeah, my positioning wasn't quite optimal (or rather it needs very fast reactions when the Sartharion tank evades the Tsunamis).

I play a lvl 80 frostmage on Smolderthorne. Does anyone have any advice on how to get my SP up? Currently it's at 1200ish, and (aside from doing heroics) can't figure out what gear to get to get start maxing it out.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... rn&n=Oopsy

What I'm interested in is advice on any equipment I can get outside of heroics/raids that will up my SP to make me more valuable when I DO go into raids and whatnot. I've been kicked a couple times because my DPS was on the low end. Which, can be really annoying. So I'm just looking to make myself more valuable so I can do more heroics/raids and get even better gear.

I don't have a Mage so I can't really help you a lot with builds and so on. However, AFAIK Frost is not up to par as a DPS spec - Fire is a lot better.

I would advise you to take a look at the Elitist Jerks forums - they usually have lots of information there.
In particular these two threads/posts should help you:
Mage Talent Guide
Pre-Raid gear

For equipping as a Mage, I would generally just use Rawr. It should show you what items are upgrades, where to get them and so on.

On a side note, I am trying to more or less copy http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... nguardbida in terms of armor/items. Particularly with The Turning Tide (drool). However, I don't do arenas, and at least one of the items I need 1600 on personal/team rating. I...don't even know what that means. I, obviously, know what arenas are, but is that 2v2, 3v3, etc? Does it matter? What would be the best versus to do, and what kind of group would a mage be suited for (ie, mage/dk/spriest)?

I guess I'm still a newb at a lot of the end stuff (which I regard arenas as).

The personal/team rating for arenas is pretty much an ELO rating system. You start at 1500 and you gain or lose points when you win or lose - how much depends on your opponents rating. For the items it doesn't matter if you are in a 2v2, 3v3, or 5v5 team. You do get more arena points with a 5v5 team compared to a 2v2 team.

Generally, PvP items are not up to par compared to PvE items (from heroics and raids) as far as doing damage goes.

[Sriad]

I play a lvl 80 frostmage on Smolderthorne. Does anyone have any advice on how to get my SP up? Currently it's at 1200ish, and (aside from doing heroics) can't figure out what gear to get to get start maxing it out.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... rn&n=Oopsy

What I'm interested in is advice on any equipment I can get outside of heroics/raids that will up my SP to make me more valuable when I DO go into raids and whatnot. I've been kicked a couple times because my DPS was on the low end. Which, can be really annoying. So I'm just looking to make myself more valuable so I can do more heroics/raids and get even better gear.

On a side note, I am trying to more or less copy http://www.wowarmory.com/character-shee ... nguardbida in terms of armor/items. Particularly with The Turning Tide (drool). However, I don't do arenas, and at least one of the items I need 1600 on personal/team rating. I...don't even know what that means. I, obviously, know what arenas are, but is that 2v2, 3v3, etc? Does it matter? What would be the best versus to do, and what kind of group would a mage be suited for (ie, mage/dk/spriest)?

I guess I'm still a newb at a lot of the end stuff (which I regard arenas as).

I am a mage, and I'm here to help.

You actually have all the gear you need to be competitive in heroics. Frost is fine, and in heroics can actually out-perform FFB. Here's what ya need to do:

1: enchant yer shit. Anything that's purple should have an enchant on it (seeing epic gear un- or miss- enchanted is a huge red flag), and I don't mean that +10 resist trash: you want spell power, hit, crit, and +8 stats on your chest. Here:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Enchantments_by_slot

2: Respec. You have points sitting around in talents that are pretty much a waste, and are missing some MAJOR dps for your gear level. Those 3 points languishing in arcane fortitude and/or Frozen Core need to go right into Frostbite, and you get in some heroics and blizzard any pull with 3 or more mobs in a pile. For extra lulz blow your trinket, icy veins, and mirror image to defer threat 30 seconds. Also, you really don't need clearcasting, just drink for a couple ticks between every pull and use your mana gem every cooldown. Evocation when you're low too, boss fights aren't long enough to need it, especially as frost.

Generally, for a talent to be worth taking, it should improve your overall effectiveness by 1% or more per point, give you a new ability, or unlock something that meets those requirements. You don't need more AC, that's what Rank 8 Ice Barrier is for. You don't need Frozen Core, that's what ice barrier, frost ward, fire ward, mana shield, counterspell, and ice block are for.

Here are a couple frost specs I whipped up for ya:
0/0/71, the spec of champions.
10/0/61, the spec of "I'm lost without maximizing mana efficiency!"
18/0/53, the spec of PVP for people who understand arcane mages are only currently good in 2s and 3s.
I suggest major glyphs: Water Elemental, Mana Gem(unless you go efficiency), your choice. Mages have lots of viable glyphs, depending on whether you want to focus on heroics or pvp.
Minor glyphs should be slow fall, frost ward, fire ward.

3: Right, upgrades. The first thing I want you to do (after you respec and get enchanted) is take off that grungy Wyrmrest Tabard and represent for the Kirin Tor. The Spell Scalpel and your offhand is the best combo you'll get until Naxx 10 one-handers replace it, and you will be using Arcanum of Burning Mysteries until at least 3.1.

Enchant the Spell Scalpel.

The Horde Medallion is almost useless in heroics. Go quest up one of these until you can replace it with one of these, which you will use practically forever. Replace the green ring with the next ring you see.

[/triage]

PS, use Elitist Jerks and Rawr. Maxdps is acceptable for entry level gear planning, but it is limited in usefulness.

[CaptainChewbacca]

Today I decided to be obsessive compulsive, and I farmed 7 rare BoP alchemy recipes in outland. I now have the three 'Fel' potions from shadowmoon valley, as well as all the Major Protection Potions except Frost, which requires a run through Mana Tombs (and its a pain in the ass to get there now). I also 'discovered' the cauldron recipes for those protection formulae. Later this week I'm gonna farm all the new protection potions in icecrown, should be fun.