I am curious if anybody has found any tables of average birth rates by religious affiliation.
The reason why I am asking is because in the latest CDC report, Utah has the highest birth rate of any state in the United States proper.
I believe that this is due to the high percentage of Mormons but I have been told:
The only thing I can say to that DF is that you're ignorant and prejudiced, and you're letting both your ignorance and prejudice drive you..
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I saw more three-place baby carriages pushed by twenty-something mothers in and around the Gateway mall in Salt Lake City, than in any other city I have visited, on the planet.
Too small a sampling to be useful, but there it is.
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I wanted to add that I was unable to find anything direct but was able to find several sources which state that the situation was supported historically. He kept dancing though and redefining his goal posts.
"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
Thomas Paine
"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten."
Ecclesiastes 9:5 (KJV)
In Israel the fanatics are outbreeding the secularists. In Europe the Muslims have a higher birth rate (although it could be because they are immigrants/poorer).
Samuel wrote:In Israel the fanatics are outbreeding the secularists. In Europe the Muslims have a higher birth rate (although it could be because they are immigrants/poorer).
It's also worth pointing out that they're still a tiny fraction of the population, despite what various racist organisations say.
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Zuul wrote:It's also worth pointing out that they're still a tiny fraction of the population, despite what various racist organisations say.
Speaking about Racist Organizations, I was watching a show about the Black Panthers and was surprised just how anti-Jew the new Black Panthers are....
"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
Thomas Paine
"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten."
Ecclesiastes 9:5 (KJV)
Kitsune wrote:I am curious if anybody has found any tables of average birth rates by religious affiliation.
The reason why I am asking is because in the latest CDC report, Utah has the highest birth rate of any state in the United States proper.
I believe that this is due to the high percentage of Mormons but I have been told:
The only thing I can say to that DF is that you're ignorant and prejudiced, and you're letting both your ignorance and prejudice drive you..
How the hell is it ignorance and prejudice to say that Utah has a high percentage of Mormons, and that this may be a major factor in their high overall birth rate? How could it not be a factor?
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Yes, it seemed to be a water is wet type statement myself......
Just wondering if anybody had actually uncovered birth rate by religious values in the U.S.
Curious if people think that whether we like it or not, every government will have to pass laws stating that you can only have two children per couple.
Darth Wong wrote:How the hell is it ignorance and prejudice to say that Utah has a high percentage of Mormons, and that this may be a major factor in their high overall birth rate? How could it not be a factor?
"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
Thomas Paine
"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten."
Ecclesiastes 9:5 (KJV)
By Phillip Longman
Thursday, September 2, 2004; Page A23
What's the difference between the protesters outside the Republican convention and the delegates inside? There are many, of course, but one will ultimately skew American politics and the culture wars in the Republicans' favor, regardless of who has God or reason on her side. It's the divide between who is having children and who isn't.
Over the past decade, fertility rates among all major American ethnic groups have either remained low or fallen dramatically. Between 1990 and 2002 fertility declined 14 percent among Mexican Americans and 24 percent among Puerto Ricans. African Americans, according to the National Center for Health Statistics, now have a lower average fertility rate than whites, and they are no longer producing enough children to replace their population. But one big difference in fertility rates remains: Conservative, religiously minded Americans are putting far more of their genes into the future than their liberal, secular counterparts.
In Utah, for example, where 69 percent of all residents are registered members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, fertility rates are the highest in the nation. Utah annually produces 90 children for every 1,000 women of child-bearing age. By comparison, Vermont -- the only state to send a socialist to Congress and the first to embrace gay unions -- produces only 49.
Fertility correlates strongly with religious conviction. In the United States, fully 47 percent of people who attend church weekly say that their ideal family size is three or more children. By contrast, only 27 percent of those who seldom attend church want that many kids.
High fertility also correlates strongly with support for George W. Bush. Of the top 10 most fertile states, all but one voted for Bush in 2000. Among the 17 states that still produce enough children to replace their populations, all but two -- Iowa and Minnesota -- voted for Bush in the last election. Conversely, the least fertile states -- a list that includes Maine, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania and Connecticut -- went overwhelmingly for Al Gore. Women living in Gore states on average have 12 percent fewer babies than women living in Bush states.
Of course, this is coming from a nonbeliever with 3 kids But my family on both sides are very Catholic, and that shows because I don't seem to get the reactions my friends get from their secular families. They often tell me about their family reacting negatively to more children being born. Though I would gladly take that over the reaction I get for not bringing the kids up Catholic.
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But my family on both sides are very Catholic, and that shows because I don't seem to get the reactions my friends get from their secular families. They often tell me about their family reacting negatively to more children being born. Though I would gladly take that over the reaction I get for not bringing the kids up Catholic.
