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Do you amoke?

Yes, cigarettes
6
7%
Yes, cigars
1
1%
Yes, Marujuana
7
8%
Yes, crack
2
2%
No, I've never taken a drag of anything in my life
54
63%
I've tried one of the above once or twice in my life
16
19%
 
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Durandal wrote:I smoked pretty regularly last semester, but I am slowly cutting down. Mainly, I smoke at parties and when I'm drinking. Some nights, I'll just have a cigarette before I go to bed. Sometimes I'll have one after work, but I'm really trying to limit myself now to no more than two a day, and I want to go at least a couple days a week without smoking at all. I didn't smoke at all yesterday.

The big problem is that I enjoy it, and I don't want to quit, but I need to. I smoke clove cigarettes, which taste a whole lot better, have a lighter smoke and give a better high, but are probably worse for you. And you get a nice social buzz from smoking in a group and just chatting with other people. There's a whole lot more than just the physical addiction to nicotine. In my case, I'm not physically addicted; it's a slight psychological addiction, where there are certain situations where I want to smoke. If I'm not in those situations, I don't feel the urge for a cigarette.

You'd be surprised at how even the smallest action gives a smoker a psychological buzz, such as actually lighting the cigarette with a Zippo lighter, which is part of it for me.

Oh, and I smoke weed. In fact, I had some absolutely awesome shit Thursday night.
You hit the nail right on the head. I did not want to quit either. I enjoyed the hell out of smoking, even as I could not breathe without excruciating pain most mornings. Even now, after months of being a non-smoker, every time I remember just how good it felt to have a trusty smoke in my hand makes me want to go and bum a cancer stick from the first available smoker.

And I have not smoked weed in ages. Drugs are bad, mmmkay?
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Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:I only smoke weed. Kind bud, Skunk, Shwag, Dank, Creeper (damn that's fun too), Chronic, Bubonic Chronic, Supersonic Bubonis Chronic (WHEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!), You name it! I smoke it!


Oh, and cock too. Nothing like a little Man Sausage after getting nice and tw33ked!
Yes, the one person on this board who give the phrase "Smoking a fag" a whole new meaning. :mrgreen:(No offense, by the way)

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I don't smoke.
And don't have to. I get my nicotine through my whole family, since every single one of them smokes :-D
And besides, I'm too much a Swabian that I would cringe each time I smoked a cigarette thinking how much that thing just cost me *g*
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SAMAS wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:I only smoke weed. Kind bud, Skunk, Shwag, Dank, Creeper (damn that's fun too), Chronic, Bubonic Chronic, Supersonic Bubonis Chronic (WHEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!), You name it! I smoke it!


Oh, and cock too. Nothing like a little Man Sausage after getting nice and tw33ked!
Yes, the one person on this board who give the phrase "Smoking a fag" a whole new meaning. :mrgreen:(No offense, by the way)

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Sweet Mary Jane is a fine addition to my life (albeit infrequently), I smoke cigarettes rarely socially. Once I actually bought a pack to see if it really slows down your appetite, didn't work for me.

Warning: rant alert!

My thoughts on tobacco: So what if it's unhealthy? So are UV rays and sugar substitutes. It goes along with a little philosophy of mine...Addictives kill off the weak and test the strong. I've had family members die of smoking-related illnesses, too, so I'm not so cold and unfeeling because it's never affected me. Also, I've fought off addictions before they took control of my life. It's not fucking hard to do that, either. Addicts are simply weak people, or just idiots. I don't blame smokes for causing illness, I blame the smokers themselves. Serves them right, and me too, perhaps. Maybe I'm just a sadist, but I love watching my friends go nuts when they can't get smokes after awhile. :twisted:

U.S. Government: Where the hell are they going with their hideously annoying "Speak out against tobacco" propaganda machine? Those anti-marijuana ads are just insulting to humanity's collective intelligence.

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OK im going to address smoking in two different catagories. First Tobacco, second sweet sweet ganja.

Tobacco: Reason why people smoke, well nicotine is a stimulant, many girls start because it is an appetite supressant and increases metabolism causing some minor amount of weight loss, it also improves brain functions related to learning to a minor but noticable degree. Also there is some evidence that nicotine can reduce the risk of Alzheimers. For the most part though people start smoking because well rather honestly it can be REALLY enjoyable. There is nothing like a cigarrette after drinking a beer. There is also the element of not believing that you will be hooked, thinking that you can control it (something i still think, i only smoke once maybe twice a month)
As far as cancer, back in the 70s they found out something that has yet to be discredited, basically the primary cancer causing agent in tobacco is Lead 210 an isotope that is radioactive and decays into other radioactive agents, primarly through Alpha radiation. These Lead particles mostly end up in the same spot (within a few micrometers) as where most smoking related lung cancer begins. This lead210 comes from the fertilizers that are used in making tobacco, and could be eliminated from smokes, but of course you get alot less growth. I suggest checking out erowid's Tobacco area. www.erowid.org then go to plants and drugs, and then tobacco.
Tar is not a significant cancer causing agent, as evidenced by the fact that those who smoke flitered light cigs have no lower risk of cancer than those who smoke unflitered (this is of course for a similar amount of smokes a day)

Now emphasema is a problem of course, but amazingly it's likelyhood can be significantly reduced by smoking cannabis products as well as tobacco, because cannabis causes the smallest lung cavities to dilate, wheras nicotine causes them to constrict, this makes it harder for them to be blocked by tar.


now on to Weed, Pot, Grass, Ganja, Marijuana, Cannabis, etc, etc, ad nauseum.

Basically as of the most recent data collected, and compiled by the Canadian government, as well as independant sources, with moderate use (up to and including once a day use) of decent potency pot, there are no real long term negatives to pot use. No perminent brain damage has ever been found, no increased risk of cancer, no increased risk of any disease has been found. Basically pot as as healthy as chocolate (it also is less adictive). The Canadian report concluded by saying there is absolutely no reason to maintain the illegality of pot and it will msot likely be legalized there. I once again suggest you read over Erowid's Cannabis Vault, specifically this article: http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/c ... myth.shtml

I will not comment on whether or not I have personal experience with cannabis, as i really dont think it is significant to whether or not it should be a bad thing. I also will saythis, any of the potential risks from pot comes from smoking it, if you were to eat it, drink it in green dragon (pot is placed in high proof alcohol and the delta 9 THC is disolved into the alcohol as with some of the chlorophyll, causing the green color), or use a vaporizer (THC and other cannaboids vaporize at a lower temperature than the tar and than is necessary for the combustion of said pot, a vaporizer is a device that uses an electric heating element (like that from a soddering iron) to vaporize the cannaboids but not the tar and not combust the pot, making the inhalation considerably less risky, that is of course if anyone ever found anything conclusivly wrong with it anyway).



So prettymuch I am saying that we should legalize pot and that nicotine/tobacco isnt bad for the same reasons that people want you to think it is, but it still is pretty not cool (remember it is more addictive than heroin, my views on heroin are another story, but it to is alot less bad than the government wants you to think)
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UltraViolence83 wrote:U.S. Government: Where the hell are they going with their hideously annoying "Speak out against tobacco" propaganda machine? Those anti-marijuana ads are just insulting to humanity's collective intelligence.
I love the perception of tobacco companies that the government and all these self-righteous anti-smoking cocksuckers are trying to perpetuate. Ever see the Family Guy episode where Peter becomes the president of a tobacco company? Basically, the executives are having a board meeting, and they end it with maniacal laughter, and then one of them throws a puppy out the window and another blasts it with a rifle. Most people who see it don't really get the sleight against the campaign to demonize tobacco companies.

Yeah, cigarettes are bad for you, but come on. Every company has an agenda and is trying to find ways to get people to stick with their products. Hell, Microsoft has almost the entire computer-using world "addicted" to Windows, and no one ever puts out "truth" commercials about them.

This "tobacco company conspiracy" bullshit has just got to stop. And these "truth" commercials? How about they start being honest and backing up their claims? Every other commercial stars some kid reading a memo that they somehow obtained from an anonymous tobacco company signed by an anonymous tobacco executive. They never even show us what's on the damn piece of paper. They just read stuff that's supposedly on it, and we're supposed to take their word that it's genuine, with no knowledge of how they acquired it, who wrote it, when it was written, or what company it's from. "Truth," indeed.
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I absolutely fucking HATE those Truth commercials. That one anti-weed ad cracks me up, though. You ever see it? It's the one where the two kids sit in the room, and after a few trips through their strange and fearsome circular timeline world the one kid holds out a hand gun.

Idiot kid #1: Look what I found!

Idiot kid #2: Cool. Is it loaded?

Idiot kid #1: Nah...

BANG!!! fucking bang, man! blew his fucking head fucking clean off!!! Unfortunately, they do not have a video depiction of this, only audio.
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The tobacco companies have been knowingly INCREASING the health hazards of cigarettes by deliberately putting in additives designed to make them more addictive at the cost of also making them more carcinogenic. Cigarettes are full of chemicals that, when isolated, are considered hazardous materials and are strictly regulated. This goes well beyond normal corporate greed.
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Those companies are crossing the line in my opinion, though. So much stigma could be removed from smoking if they actually just cleaned cigarettes up and sold them as legitimate products, like alcohol. I never see anyone say anything bad about cigars, unless it's about the smell, you know?
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UltraViolence83 wrote:I absolutely fucking HATE those Truth commercials. That one anti-weed ad cracks me up, though. You ever see it? It's the one where the two kids sit in the room, and after a few trips through their strange and fearsome circular timeline world the one kid holds out a hand gun.

Idiot kid #1: Look what I found!

Idiot kid #2: Cool. Is it loaded?

Idiot kid #1: Nah...

BANG!!! fucking bang, man! blew his fucking head fucking clean off!!! Unfortunately, they do not have a video depiction of this, only audio.
I'm always baffled at the shit people can come up with to dissuade you from using weed. Don't you know why it's called "marijuana"? The government started calling it that because it sounded Mexican, which they thought would make people inclined to stay away from it. Though, the funniest one by far is the one with the pregnant girl, and about how marijuana can obstruct your judgment.

Guess what? So can alcohol, and it's legal.

Mike, fair enough, I guess. I don't smoke American tobacco company cigarettes, anyway, so I don't really follow what goes into them.
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Didn't we have another poll exactly like this? Anyways, I am a social smoker, only time when I do smoke.
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Nope, I've never tried any of those, and I have no real interest to try them. I'm happy with my life the way it is, and I don't need to buy a kind of false happiness (to paraphrase from Alduous Huxley).
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Staying far, far away from all of them. I don't like things that will fuck-up my health.

This is what I recall from my DARE program...
Cigarettes contain nicotine, butane, arsenic, formaldehyde (Damn, forgot how to spell that...), wax, rocket fuel, and a bunch of other stuff really bad.

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Darn! Can't really vote as it is listed, so I'll say that I seldomly smoke cigars.
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I might as well just say it, but I can get high just listening to music. I'm just able to let go.
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There shoulda been a more than one option
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I first tried cigarettes 5 years ago when I was 15. I only did it because of the social/coolness thing of it. Since I first tried smoking I have only ever bought them 3 times, the rest were bummed off friends. I never got into smoking heavy and never got addicted to them. I always found the taste of cigarettes somewhat disgusting and as I said before, I only did them for social reasons and the typical teenage experimentation thing.

I havent actually smoked a cigarette in almost a year and even when I did it last it was only a single one I bummed off a buddy while we were drinking. I may have a few cigarettes here and there in the future when I'm hanging out or partying but I won't ever buy them again since I don't particularily like them anyways and they are bad for your health.
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Zoink wrote:Moderate drinking (one glass or less per day) has never been shown to be harmfull
It's actually healthy.
I would agree that the same is true for weed.


Doubtfull, it's still smoke and tar and shit you pull down your lungs, it's like smoking a cig a day, I don't think anyone would claim that to be harmless.
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Master of Ossus wrote:Nope, I've never tried any of those, and I have no real interest to try them. I'm happy with my life the way it is, and I don't need to buy a kind of false happiness (to paraphrase from Alduous Huxley).
why would you consider it to be false?
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Never even tried anything. Just the smell is bad enough to make me nauseous. Regarding weed, there's the little matter of that chemical (T-something or other, which is the addictive agent) not being water-soluble, so it accumulates in your body. The flush cycle is about 30 days, so anybody who advocates moderate weed-smoking had better take that fact into account. I wouldn't consider smoking something that in addition to all the other negatives causes build-up of basically poisonous stuff in your body. Alcohol is water-soluble, hence it leaves the body much faster, which is why most weed/alcohol analogies fail before they get anywhere.

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Yeah but alcohol can also cause you to be a loud mouthed arrogant violent son of a bitch.

Ever see a guy at say a hocky match shouting and generally obnoxious? Is he Drunk or High?

It's impossible to be wound up when your smoking weed. Trust me i'm the most easily wind up-able man in Belfast, but get me my pipe and i'm peachy as pie.
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i gave up cigarettes a 4 years ago, although i never really smoked much...a pack a week maybe. i just realized one day that it was just plain dumb and made me smell bad. as far as the wacky tobacky, i was a casual smoker of it when i was 19 up until 21 or so. now, maybe once in a blue moon.... i had a toke at a dave matthews concert last year, and none since. actually, i have always likes the smell of it for some reason.
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Quick, take up smoking! You can never get enough hydrogen cyanide and formaldehyde in a healthy diet, right? :roll:
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