Ideal ST Game

PST: discuss Star Trek without "versus" arguments.

Moderator: Vympel

Post Reply
User avatar
Uraniun235
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 13772
Joined: 2002-09-12 12:47am
Location: OREGON
Contact:

Ideal ST Game

Post by Uraniun235 »

What ST-based game would you most want to see?

Personally, I'd want the "Ultimate Star Trek Starship Simulator".

It would effectively simulate starship combat As Seen On TV(tm). Want to recreate the Battle of the Mutara Nebula? Load the scenario, and you're in! The game would accurately model the characteristics of each ship, including manuevering abilities, firepower, and damage absorption.

In order to address the issue of inconsistent figures throughout the canon, the game would be able to assign different values to systems; hence, while a recreation of "Survivors" would allow you to salvo off loads of torpedoes and phasers while getting bitchslapped fairly quickly, a recreation of "Yesterday's Enterprise" would give you a more restricted rate of fire, but the ability to stand up to three K'vorts pounding on you for a few minutes.

The game should also be able to cope with figures outside the range seen in the canon material, so as to allow people to make the ships as they see fit.

The game could also adjust the properties of weapons; making them highly inaccurate or perfectly accurate, giving the torpedoes varying degrees of tracking ability. Permeability of shields could also be incorporated.

Terrain would be appropriately scaled; Independance War, a comparatively old game by today's standards, showed that this can be done. It could be done even better today.

Of course, the user could create their own scenarios in which the ships perform as they see fit.

Ideally, the game would allow for the user to take varying degrees of control, ranging from total control all the way to loading a scenario and watching it play out like a movie. The ability to record movies for future review would be nice, as would be the ability to pause the movie and swing the camera around for a particularly nice screenshot.

Other game ideas... another game with the flavor of the Star Trek 25th Anniversary game would be cool... except WITHOUT the fricken' impossible final battle!
Kazuaki Shimazaki
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 2355
Joined: 2002-07-05 09:27pm
Contact:

You want a customization function...

Post by Kazuaki Shimazaki »

Well, sure me too. And while this is a ST board, it'll be nice if it was a Star Trek / Star Wars Ultimate Sim instead of just Star Trek, and sim that to the same degree of accuracy.

Also, I'd prefer a "Great Naval Battles" kind of layout. You can be fleet commander, task force commander, ship commander, commander of one of the departments.
User avatar
Uraniun235
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 13772
Joined: 2002-09-12 12:47am
Location: OREGON
Contact:

Post by Uraniun235 »

That would be cool, having the ability to command fleets as well if you wanted.

Ideally, the game would be almost totally moddable, so fans of any franchise could add their own ships, scenarios, and even their own series specific dynamics (like hyperspace).
User avatar
EmperorMing
Sith Devotee
Posts: 3432
Joined: 2002-09-09 05:08am
Location: The Lizard Lounge

Post by EmperorMing »

Go find a copy of SFC 1 or 2. And write your own scenario scripts.
Image

DILLIGAF: Does It Look Like I Give A Fuck

Kill your God!
Marcus
Padawan Learner
Posts: 152
Joined: 2002-11-01 01:02am

Post by Marcus »

SFC2 wont do all of that, but its the best Star-Trek computer game ive ever met...
User avatar
generator_g1
Jedi Master
Posts: 1185
Joined: 2003-01-19 10:17pm
Location: Halfway between the gutter and the stars....

Re: You want a customization function...

Post by generator_g1 »

Kazuaki Shimazaki wrote:Well, sure me too. And while this is a ST board, it'll be nice if it was a Star Trek / Star Wars Ultimate Sim instead of just Star Trek, and sim that to the same degree of accuracy.

Also, I'd prefer a "Great Naval Battles" kind of layout. You can be fleet commander, task force commander, ship commander, commander of one of the departments.
Wasn't there a Star Wars vs Star Trek mod for Star Trek Armada? Did anybody here play it?
My FLICKR page! :D
Remember, people, commas are your friends. Love them, embrace them, cherish them, and for crying out loud, USE them.
User avatar
Mr Bean
Lord of Irony
Posts: 22461
Joined: 2002-07-04 08:36am

Post by Mr Bean »

It was decent but not great

Personaly I think Star Trek:Elite Force had the right idea on the FPS side of complete ship re-recations combined with missions in said area

"A cult is a religion with no political power." -Tom Wolfe
Pardon me for sounding like a dick, but I'm playing the tiniest violin in the world right now-Dalton
User avatar
Col. Crackpot
That Obnoxious Guy
Posts: 10228
Joined: 2002-10-28 05:04pm
Location: Rhode Island
Contact:

Re: You want a customization function...

Post by Col. Crackpot »

generator_g1 wrote:
Kazuaki Shimazaki wrote:Well, sure me too. And while this is a ST board, it'll be nice if it was a Star Trek / Star Wars Ultimate Sim instead of just Star Trek, and sim that to the same degree of accuracy.

Also, I'd prefer a "Great Naval Battles" kind of layout. You can be fleet commander, task force commander, ship commander, commander of one of the departments.
Wasn't there a Star Wars vs Star Trek mod for Star Trek Armada? Did anybody here play it?
i played it and it was ok except for the fact it crashed far too often.

you know, for the life of me i cant figure out why paramount and fox cant realize that a crossover game would be a phenominal seller and make both of them ba-zillions of dollars.
Last edited by Col. Crackpot on 2003-02-04 11:21am, edited 1 time in total.
"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.” -Tom Clancy
User avatar
EmperorMing
Sith Devotee
Posts: 3432
Joined: 2002-09-09 05:08am
Location: The Lizard Lounge

Post by EmperorMing »

There is always SFB, even though it has many *non* canon elements to it.
Image

DILLIGAF: Does It Look Like I Give A Fuck

Kill your God!
User avatar
beyond hope
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 1608
Joined: 2002-08-19 07:08pm

Re: You want a customization function...

Post by beyond hope »

Col. Crackpot wrote:
generator_g1 wrote:
Kazuaki Shimazaki wrote:Well, sure me too. And while this is a ST board, it'll be nice if it was a Star Trek / Star Wars Ultimate Sim instead of just Star Trek, and sim that to the same degree of accuracy.

Also, I'd prefer a "Great Naval Battles" kind of layout. You can be fleet commander, task force commander, ship commander, commander of one of the departments.
Wasn't there a Star Wars vs Star Trek mod for Star Trek Armada? Did anybody here play it?
i played it and it was ok except for the fact it crashed far too often.

you know, for the life of me i cant figure out why paramount and fox cant realize that a crossover game would be a phenominal seller and make both of them ba-zillions of dollars.
I can imagine the respective legal teams at Paramount and Fox salivating already. Look at how the Aliens Vs. Predator movie vanished into limbo due to legal issues with Dark Horse Comics, and that was two movie franchises owned by the same distributor.

I'd like to see a strategy game like Birth of the Federation, without the annoying bugs that make it crash consistently.
User avatar
Ender
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 11323
Joined: 2002-07-30 11:12pm
Location: Illinois

Re: You want a customization function...

Post by Ender »

Col. Crackpot wrote:
generator_g1 wrote:
Kazuaki Shimazaki wrote:Well, sure me too. And while this is a ST board, it'll be nice if it was a Star Trek / Star Wars Ultimate Sim instead of just Star Trek, and sim that to the same degree of accuracy.

Also, I'd prefer a "Great Naval Battles" kind of layout. You can be fleet commander, task force commander, ship commander, commander of one of the departments.
Wasn't there a Star Wars vs Star Trek mod for Star Trek Armada? Did anybody here play it?
i played it and it was ok except for the fact it crashed far too often.

you know, for the life of me i cant figure out why paramount and fox cant realize that a crossover game would be a phenominal seller and make both of them ba-zillions of dollars.
Because Fox has nothing to do with it, it would be LucasArts.
بيرني كان سيفوز
*
Nuclear Navy Warwolf
*
in omnibus requiem quaesivi, et nusquam inveni nisi in angulo cum libro
*
ipsa scientia potestas est
User avatar
Uraniun235
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 13772
Joined: 2002-09-12 12:47am
Location: OREGON
Contact:

Post by Uraniun235 »

EmperorMing wrote:Go find a copy of SFC 1 or 2. And write your own scenario scripts.
Kirk say "Z minus ten thousand meters..."
SFC is two-dimensional, and totally inadequate compared to my above wishlist. I've played it before, and it certainly doesn't come close to what I outlined.
User avatar
GrandMasterTerwynn
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 6787
Joined: 2002-07-29 06:14pm
Location: Somewhere on Earth.

Re: You want a customization function...

Post by GrandMasterTerwynn »

Kazuaki Shimazaki wrote:Well, sure me too. And while this is a ST board, it'll be nice if it was a Star Trek / Star Wars Ultimate Sim instead of just Star Trek, and sim that to the same degree of accuracy.

Also, I'd prefer a "Great Naval Battles" kind of layout. You can be fleet commander, task force commander, ship commander, commander of one of the departments.
Ahhh, no, a totally accurate SW vs. ST sim would be about as fun as either climbing Mt. Everest naked (Playing the ST side), or stepping on ants (playing the SW side.)
User avatar
EmperorMing
Sith Devotee
Posts: 3432
Joined: 2002-09-09 05:08am
Location: The Lizard Lounge

Post by EmperorMing »

Uraniun235 wrote:
EmperorMing wrote:Go find a copy of SFC 1 or 2. And write your own scenario scripts.
Kirk say "Z minus ten thousand meters..."
SFC is two-dimensional, and totally inadequate compared to my above wishlist. I've played it before, and it certainly doesn't come close to what I outlined.
I'm aware of the two dimensional thingy.

You might as well take an existing game (independence war 2 for example) and mod it.
Image

DILLIGAF: Does It Look Like I Give A Fuck

Kill your God!
Post Reply