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Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-02-01 12:20am

There are a lot of new avatars, and it will take me a while to get used to the bigger size, but it's all good. I just might try to find a new one to take advantage of the new size limits. Now I won't have to shrink it to the point where all the detail is lost.

Pcm979 · Post by **Pcm979** » 2003-02-01 03:37am

At last! I can make a larger BM-Phantom!

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » 2003-02-03 06:39pm

Long live General Obi-Wan Kenobi!!!

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2003-02-03 07:24pm

Defiant wrote:Long live General Obi-Wan Kenobi!!!

He is really stretched, looks like a stick man Obi.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » 2003-02-03 07:35pm

Ted wrote:
Defiant wrote:Long live General Obi-Wan Kenobi!!!
He is really stretched, looks like a stick man Obi.

Fixed the image. Thanks for the tip.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2003-02-04 03:44am

I can't make this image 100x100 while being less than 6 kb.

Any suggestions? Even the lowest quality jpeg I make of it is still more than 6 kb.

Cyborg Stan · Post by **Cyborg Stan** » 2003-02-04 04:07am

Robert Treder wrote:I can't make this image 100x100 while being less than 6 kb.

Any suggestions? Even the lowest quality jpeg I make of it is still more than 6 kb.

Actually, I found that it should fit very easily as a 100x100 JPEG. With progressive encoding and the default compression value of 15, it was a mere 4,689 bytes, and at a compression value of 9 it was 5,896 bytes. This is a bit confusing to me, maybe you're not reducing the size correctly? The source image you posted is 120x120.

Reduced to 100x100, then reduced the palette down to 136 colors via Optimized Octree, with dithering set to zero. End result is 5,945 bytes.

In general, I found that using PNG format seems more efficent than GIF. For reducing colors, Optimized Octree seems to work better than Optimized Median Cut for a limited file size, although the latter works better when colors instead of bytes are limited. The amount of colors reduced tends to vary from image to image, but 127 seems to be a middling number. Setting the dithering lower reduces file size further, although how it affects the quality of the final result depends. Lowered dithering seems to work better for cel-style images.

If you use JPEG instead, progressive encoding seems to work better and you can fiddle around with the compression ratios.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2003-02-04 06:19am

Thanks, Stan. Yeah, I fiddled around with it some more, and I was able to get it down acceptably. And PNG does work well; I hadn't thought of that.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-02-04 04:16pm

Robert Treder wrote:Thanks, Stan. Yeah, I fiddled around with it some more, and I was able to get it down acceptably. And PNG does work well; I hadn't thought of that.

Yeah, but does M$ support PNG?

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-02-04 04:39pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Robert Treder wrote:Thanks, Stan. Yeah, I fiddled around with it some more, and I was able to get it down acceptably. And PNG does work well; I hadn't thought of that.
Yeah, but does M$ support PNG?

Fuck yeah. Most high-end programs and newer web browsers do.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-02-04 04:55pm

Dalton wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Robert Treder wrote:Thanks, Stan. Yeah, I fiddled around with it some more, and I was able to get it down acceptably. And PNG does work well; I hadn't thought of that.
Yeah, but does M$ support PNG?
Fuck yeah. Most high-end programs and newer web browsers do.

W00t! About time. I heard IE doesn't like PNGs.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-02-04 04:56pm

Remember to reduce color depth too.

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-02-04 05:01pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Dalton wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Yeah, but does M$ support PNG?
Fuck yeah. Most high-end programs and newer web browsers do.
W00t! About time. I heard IE doesn't like PNGs.

Ohhh, IE? I'm not really surprised. I don't think Microsoft would add support for new formats when it can invent a few proprietary formats of its own for their personal use.

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2003-02-04 05:12pm

I'm suprised that I didn't post here yet. I got a new sig pic instead of a avater cause I couldn't find anyone I liked that looked good scaled up.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-02-04 05:24pm

Dalton wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Dalton wrote:Fuck yeah. Most high-end programs and newer web browsers do.
W00t! About time. I heard IE doesn't like PNGs.
Ohhh, IE? I'm not really surprised. I don't think Microsoft would add support for new formats when it can invent a few proprietary formats of its own for their personal use.

And the fucktards wonder why I use Mozilla too...

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-02-04 05:25pm

Dalton wrote:
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Dalton wrote:Fuck yeah. Most high-end programs and newer web browsers do.
W00t! About time. I heard IE doesn't like PNGs.
Ohhh, IE? I'm not really surprised. I don't think Microsoft would add support for new formats when it can invent a few proprietary formats of its own for their personal use.

Is that a Double Post I spy?

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-02-04 08:14pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Is that a Double Post I spy?

How the hell did that happen?

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-02-04 09:33pm

Here's my new 100x100 Konstantin!

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-02-04 10:15pm

<<-- Hello Mr. Baggins...

Zaku-chan · Post by **Zaku-chan** » 2003-02-04 10:39pm

My new Geara Doga.

Thank you, Mark Simmons.