Tear Up Kent Hovind

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-02-05 04:05pm

I don't even know where to start with this guy -- he's hilarious! Classic Creationist pseudoscience.

Example: This guy claims that the Geologic Column doesn't work because 1. The dates of the strata are based on the index fossils found in them, and b. the dates of fossils are extrapolated from the strata they were found in, and 3. radiometric dating requires a form be filled out specifying both in order to establish a date range. WTF?! Obviously, that isn't how dating works.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-02-05 04:49pm

He's up on assault charges, maybe they'll put him away for awhile. Probably not, but we can always hope.

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2003-02-05 05:43pm

He's so bad, even other creationists treat him as a liability.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-02-05 06:15pm

Assault Charges?! W00T!

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-02-05 06:25pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Assault Charges?! W00T!

What did he assault, besides common sense and logic?

Anyway, many of his arguments are ewasily refutable, and some don't even prove a young universe (For example, I believe one of his arguments was that the oldest tree is only about 5500 years old)

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-02-05 07:22pm

Assault charges. A religious k00k goes nuts and pummels on someone... so hard to believe... ROFL!!!

So who was it he beat on?

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-02-05 07:51pm

I can find the official documentation for you, but basically the story goes like this. Old "Dr." Dino found out that the tenant he was renting an apartment to had a live-in boyfriend. When an angry argument broke out, the tenant shut the door in Hovind's face. He angrily barged in through the locked door, and attacked her boyfriend. The fight was on, and the girl called the police. Hovind was arrested and charged.

He apparently thought that, because it was his apartment, he could barge in whenever he pleased.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-02-05 08:47pm

Well, that's where Hovind would be (once again) wrong. As any decent landlord knows, you have to get permission to enter. What a dipshit. And what did he do it over? An extramarital relationship?! I could see where he could have taken action legally -- get him on the lease or get him out of the apartment. That is legal. Ugh... see sig, line 2.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-02-05 08:49pm

There is no point in tearing up Hovind's arguements. This is because they are so mind boggling stupid.

Attacking all of Hovind's worthless arguements would be like shipping an entire armor division half way around the world just to run over a grass hut.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-02-05 09:26pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:There is no point in tearing up Hovind's arguements. This is because they are so mind boggling stupid.

Attacking all of Hovind's worthless arguements would be like shipping an entire armor division half way around the world just to run over a grass hut.

Yes, but doesn't Hovind never give up his arguments, and repeats them ad nauseum, making it impossible for him to concede? They are weak, but with the support of a Wall of Ignorance, become impossible to demolish despite thier weakness.

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2003-02-05 09:54pm

I think that even AiG has told its members not to use Kent Hovnid's aruments... That should tell you something.

I recall a bit about him thinking that dinosaurs and humans lived together

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-02-05 09:57pm

Superman wrote:I can find the official documentation for you, but basically the story goes like this. Old "Dr." Dino found out that the tenant he was renting an apartment to had a live-in boyfriend. When an angry argument broke out, the tenant shut the door in Hovind's face. He angrily barged in through the locked door, and attacked her boyfriend. The fight was on, and the girl called the police. Hovind was arrested and charged.

He apparently thought that, because it was his apartment, he could barge in whenever he pleased.

I look forward to him telling the judge that he only recognizes God's law, not American law.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-02-05 09:59pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Superman wrote:I can find the official documentation for you, but basically the story goes like this. Old "Dr." Dino found out that the tenant he was renting an apartment to had a live-in boyfriend. When an angry argument broke out, the tenant shut the door in Hovind's face. He angrily barged in through the locked door, and attacked her boyfriend. The fight was on, and the girl called the police. Hovind was arrested and charged.

He apparently thought that, because it was his apartment, he could barge in whenever he pleased.
I look forward to him telling the judge that he only recognizes God's law, not American law.

I really think they ought to have added that theoretical 11th commandment.....
"Thou shalt not be a complete and utter fucking moron"
Though it might have gone against the overall tone.....

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-02-05 10:03pm

Keevan_Colton wrote:I really think they ought to have added that theoretical 11th commandment.....
"Thou shalt not be a complete and utter fucking moron"
Though it might have gone against the overall tone.....

Wouldn't ever happen. Religious extremeists who wrote the stuff in the first place thrive on mindless followers.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-02-06 12:55am

Darth Wong wrote:
Superman wrote:I can find the official documentation for you, but basically the story goes like this. Old "Dr." Dino found out that the tenant he was renting an apartment to had a live-in boyfriend. When an angry argument broke out, the tenant shut the door in Hovind's face. He angrily barged in through the locked door, and attacked her boyfriend. The fight was on, and the girl called the police. Hovind was arrested and charged.

He apparently thought that, because it was his apartment, he could barge in whenever he pleased.
I look forward to him telling the judge that he only recognizes God's law, not American law.

Unlikely, DW. He will, however, undoubtedly argue that it's not a law -- it's "Only a theeeeory!" ROFLMAO!!!

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-02-06 03:40am

The police report for the entire event is online somewhere... When I find it I will post the link. Anyway, the reporting officer repeatedly referred to Hovind as "Dr." Hovind. Unless the cop actually knew who he was, and believed his nonsense, Hovind must have introduced himself as "Dr." Hovind! HAHA

Mail order Ph.D's crack me up.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-02-06 09:20pm

On the topic of Hovind's degree, can someone post that picture of Patriot University again? I'm sure some of us have houses bigger than that place.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-02-06 09:47pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:On the topic of Hovind's degree, can someone post that picture of Patriot University again? I'm sure some of us have houses bigger than that place.

You mean this place?

http://www.geocities.com/odonate/patriot.htm

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-02-06 10:36pm

Darth Servo wrote:
Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:On the topic of Hovind's degree, can someone post that picture of Patriot University again? I'm sure some of us have houses bigger than that place.
You mean this place?

http://www.geocities.com/odonate/patriot.htm

Damnit, my house is bigger than that and I pay AU$133.50 a fortnight rent!

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-02-06 10:38pm

I should try to get a degree from Patriot University for my dog Fuzzy. Wouldn't it be a hoot if he actually got one?

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-02-06 10:43pm

Wonder how much they cost.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-02-07 01:05am

Darth Wong wrote:I should try to get a degree from Patriot University for my dog Fuzzy. Wouldn't it be a hoot if he actually got one?

Wouldn't be suprised if Fuzzy has more operational brain cells than Hovind, and a better character, to boot!

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-02-07 01:23am

That would be a great thing to say during a public debate with this man, too!

Debater: "And where did you get your doctorate, "Dr." Hovind?

Hovind: From Patriot University.

Debater: "Oh, you mean the same place that gave my cat a Ph.D? Like this one here" (Pulls out cat's doctorate)

Hovind: "Errr... yes...

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-02-07 02:59am

But wouldn't Hovind argue that that's an ad felinum attack? I'm sorry, this is too much fun!

So what do they teach in that little wood-shed, anyway? How to forge "diplomas" using only 20lb. bond paper, Vaseline and a soiled pair of womens' undergarments?

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-02-07 03:22am

He would probably say something like, "Now he's trying to tell us that his CAT evolved! These evolutionists never give up!"