SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI

[Steve]

Well, your Tian Jiao holding, the UCSR position in the AFSR or whatever South Frequesue is called now, and the Shinra base in the Vineyards either preceeded the organization's push for renewed non-interference or were basically presented to the FTO as fait accompli.

There's also the Frequesue Neutrality Pact to consider, which basically says the entire FTO has to authorize the deployment of military forces to the continent that were not already there when the Neutrality Conference was started.

[Ryan Thunder]

Also, the Empire is fully prepared to Strike Back if Mugabe-mer tries anything.

I'm sure it is. It's just that it took the FTO multiple game-years to stabilize the areas of the CFR that we're currently active in, and that's with somewhat friendly locals on our side-- if Tian Xia is going to turn Mortimer's Claim into a puppet state or whatever it is you're planning to do you ought to bleed for it. I don't care much for what you do down there beyond that, really. If the Empire wants to waste money on the CFR that's fine by me, but you'd probably be better off colonizing bits of Velaria. I'm pretty sure that's closer to Tian Xia too.

Not to mention, not on my fucking doorstep.

[K. A. Pital]

The USCR could help the FTO maintain their neutrality, if need be . We don't want new foreign forces in Frequesque.

At least, strong diplomatiс notes are in order.

[Siege]

Though shouldn't the FTO be getting leery about about an expansion of outside military presence in Frequesue? The entire point of the organization was to keep the continent out of international power games and other blocs having bases in Frequesue isn't conducive to that goal.

Oh I'm leery all right, it's just that I'm a bit busy with other matters to concern myself much with what goes on in the boonies. And Mortimer's Claim is about as 'boonies' as it gets. Anyway, did Tian Xia sign the Neutrality Pact? I guess we could throw up some embargoes against Tian Jiao if/when the Empire begins doing things we don't approve of, but let's face it-- that's about all we can do.

And besides, I'm of half a mind that the poor people of Mortimer's Claim might very well be better off under Tian Xian rule...

[Beowulf]

Anyway, did Tian Xia sign the Neutrality Pact?

Nope. And if I signed it now, I'm in control of Tian Jiao, which means it doesn't apply to me. Here's the deal: if you want people to pay attention to it, you really have to phrase it as a declaration: "The Frequesquean Treaty Organization will not allow foreign powers to send troops into Frequesque." and then you actually need to enforce it. Which may lead to war, but then people would actually pay attention to you.

Also, it'd help to engage the only major power with territorial holdings in F-ing.

And besides, I'm of half a mind that the poor people of Mortimer's Claim might very well be better off under Tian Xian rule...

Quite probably. I do have more than one motive for helping out the people there. I'm a dictator, but I'm a dictator who cares.

The USCR could help the FTO maintain their neutrality, if need be . We don't want new foreign forces in Frequesque.

At least, strong diplomatiс notes are in order.

Ah, so you're going to send a note to your own allies to stop the opening of bases in F-ing?

Not to mention, not on my fucking doorstep.

I'm on your doorstep anyway.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Well, for what's it's worth, everyone wants to have some real estate on Frequesue, because someone else has.

Something of chicken and egg situation.

[Lonestar]

Well, for what's it's worth, everyone wants to have some real estate on Frequesue, because someone else has.

Something of chicken and egg situation.

I'm don't...I'm quite happy controlling the Impact Crater

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

I'm don't...I'm quite happy controlling the Impact Crater

You have more than enough new real estate to control!

[PeZook]

BTW, we totally should sponsor a deep sea exploration mission to the centre of the Impact Crater. It could discover alien life forms!

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

BTW, we totally should sponsor a deep sea exploration mission to the centre of the Impact Crater. It could discover alien life forms!

There's a deep sea project going on in the Mediterranean as it is.

[Siege]

Maybe you can dredge up the Cloverfield monster . Fun times for all!

[Beowulf]

So, if anyone wants to bid on the Revenue Service Fast Cutter, feel free. Builder gets 20 million, the other 10 million is for government furnished equipment. Total value of the contract is 500 million ROBs. Three criteria: looks cool, functionality, and politics.

EDIT: bids must be in by Sunday.

[PeZook]

Didn't Siege say kidnapping Nadya would be such a big mistake to make?

I'm sure Asim agrees with that now...

[DarthShady]

Damn. That's one women you don't want to piss off. Poor bastard.

[CmdrWilkens]

So, if anyone wants to bid on the Revenue Service Fast Cutter, feel free. Builder gets 20 million, the other 10 million is for government furnished equipment. Total value of the contract is 500 million ROBs. Three criteria: looks cool, functionality, and politics.

EDIT: bids must be in by Sunday.

Take your pick

Standard MESS discount applies, prices reflect full equipment installation costs so you can chop several mil off for that. Obviously those are a bit higher than your stated price range but I'm not sure you will find all that much cheaper out there in the <300tonne range. Based on the debacle with the Island class I was wroking on the assumption that the 110 footers (which don't have endurance beyond about 1500-2000nm) would cost between 30 and 40mil new built.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Currently, I'm producing the Type 14310 Mirage patrol craft for me own coast guard.

Specs goes as :
121 tonnes displacement
Speed: up to 50 knots
Range: 1,500nm at 8knots
2x 5,400HP diesel engines
Crew: 12
Armament can be customised as per customer requests. Current armnament: 30mm cannon and some Igla missiles
price: Approximately 18 million

I'm willing to offer a larger version, up to 200tonnes, with uprated engines, 2x 6,000HP diesel engines, while upping the endurance to match you requirements, and thus larger crew as well of 18. Price will be 28million. Standard MESS discount applies.

[Shinn Langley Soryu]

Modified Armidale class patrol boat (as manufactured by Nergal Heavy Industries and used by Langley Coast Guard)
Displacement: 270 tons
Propulsion: 2 x 3200 HP diesel engines
Maximum speed: 26 knots
Range: 3000 nm @ 13 knots
Crew: 21
Armament: 1 x Mauser BK-27 27mm cannon on stabilized mount, 2 x Oerlikon 20mm cannon, 1 x M224 60mm mortar or 1 x M252 81mm mortar
Price: $28 million

[Beowulf]

Come on people, give me pictures too!

[Siege]

All right, I'll toss in my hat. Here's the NFT entry. It's a bit more heavily armed than previous entries because let's face it-- the bad guys around Frequesue tend to pack more heat.

Whitecap-class Fast Patrol Craft



All-new 21st century design by Coilerburg Iron Works and Blues Brothers Shipyards. Hull and superstructure design incorporate features for reduction of radar cross section. Active roll-damping fin stabilizers have been added for operation in high sea states. Manufactured by Coilerburg Iron Works, Fallston.

Displacement: 405t (full load)
Propulsion: 4x Universal Motors 2599 diesel engines for 20,000hp
Maximum speed: >35 knots
Range: 3000 miles at 12 knots
Crew: 30

Armament: Customizable, Standard:

• 1x Ralson Arms 76mm Super Rapid gun
• 2x 4-cell launchers for MM40E Exocet
• 1x 6-cell launcher for Mistral
• 1x Ralson Arms Goalkeeper CIWS

Price: $35-58 million depending on equipment fit.

[Lonestar]

I'm going to be out of the country for the next 10 days. None of you bastards fuck around with me.

[K. A. Pital]

Pr.1240 Uragan-class Fast Patrol Craft



Mainstay Crimson "heavy" fast patrol craft. Kick them in the gut with this "small missile ship".

Displacement: 426 tons (full load), 342 ton standard, 299 ton empty.
Propulsion:
2x gas turbines M-10, summary power 36 000 h.p.
2x slow-motion diesels M-401 (DRA-211), summary power 2200 h.p.
GTG-100 gas turbine generators - 3x100 kWt
DG-100 diesel generators - 2x100 kWt
Maximum speed: 60 knots max on wings, 50 knots cruise speed on wings, 36 knots economic speed on wings
Range:
702 miles (at 60kt)
1250 miles (at 36kt)
1500 miles (at 8,5kt)
Autonomy: 5 days
Crew: 34 men

ARMAMENT:
2 x 2 Yakhont/BrahMos 1st generation launchers (4 Yakhont 1st generation missiles).
Osa-AKM anti-air CIWS missile launcher (20 9К33М3 "Osa-AKM" missiles).
1x6-barrel 30mm AK-630M artillery system (3000 ammo - 2000 in the feed, another 1000 in a storage container)

Price: can be negotiable, but it's likely to be around $30 million. Available from stock, most hulls are from the years 200X.

Upside: if Revenue Service suddenly has to confront a corvette, frigate or god forbid a real destroyer like an Arleigh Burke in coastal waters, it has 4 very fast supersonic missiles do so to. The distances are likely to be very small. Good chance. If you don't like someone's plane overhead, you can down him with the Osa-AKM SAM system - it's modern enough to down most stuff, and prop-driven sea patrol planes as well as contrabandist planes are very vulnerable to it.
Downside: the armament of this boat might be excessive for your needs. You might want new hulls not stock hulls, even though service time for most has been very limited due to the hundreds of them available for service in the UCSR.

Pr.133 Antares-class Fast Patrol Craft



Displacement: 220t
Maximum speed: 60 knots, 50 knots cruise on wings
Range: 450 miles (at 60kt)
Autonomy: 5 days
Crew: 20 men

ARMAMENT:
1x 76,2 mm gun
1x6-barrel 30mm AK-630M artillery system (3000 ammo - 2000 in the feed, another 1000 in a storage container)
2x 533-mm torpedo tubes

Price: should be around $10-15 million

Upside: can shred anyone who isn't armed and costs hell cheaper than other contenduhs. The usual mook still can't outrun it... and few can anyhow.
Downside: can't down planes and can't really score a kill on a corvette, destroyer or frigate, no matter how hard it tries. Anything with missiles and this bird is dead.

[Beowulf]

I'll say this: everyone so far is failing the "looks cool" criteria. Current leader is Siegetank, though his weapons fit is entirely inappropriate for the TXRS, given the lack of use of all of them in the TXRS.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

I'll say this: everyone so far is failing the "looks cool" criteria. Current leader is Siegetank, though his weapons fit is entirely inappropriate for the TXRS, given the lack of use of all of them in the TXRS.

Well, if you insist, the larger version can look like this:

[Shroom Man 777]

There, PeZook. I hope you're happy! Might not be Mohammad Jihad yet, but it's fifty percent done! By tomorrow, you will have your Jihad!

ALL OF VELARIA!

[PeZook]

Lord Moonbeam is an awesome negotiator.

"We wouldn't want you to get stabbed, now would we?"