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turns out it wasn't him
DNA test proves babyfaced Alfie not the dad

* March 27, 2009 - 11:58AM

A DNA test has proven that the English teenager who thought he'd impregnated his girlfriend at the age of 12 is not the father of the baby.

Alfie Patten, now 13, made international headlines last month when his girlfriend, 15-year-old Chantelle Steadman, gave birth to Maisie Roxanne.

The baby-faced teen insisted he was the only one who had slept with Chantelle and was excited about becoming a dad, promising to take responsibility "like a grown-up father".

But he took the DNA test after six other teenagers came forward soon after Maisie's birth to claim they had also had sex with Chantelle.

British newspapers reported today that the test results are through - and Alfie is not the dad.

The Daily Mirror says the finding is likely to devastate the boy, who didn't even know what a DNA test was before this saga began.

"I didn't know about DNA tests before but mum explained it's when they do a swab in your mouth and it tells if you're the dad," he was quoted as saying before undergoing the test.

"So if I have it, they [the other boys] can all shut up."

His mother Nicole had previously said: "It had not even crossed Alfie's mind whether Chantelle had not been faithful to him.

"He's absolutely devastated that these lads say they slept with her."

Welfare workers say that Alfie has been a doting father who can't bear to be separated from his daughter.

But it has been rumoured that Chantelle's mother Penny told her daughter to keep quiet about the other boys so they could cash in on the publicity surrounding 13-year-old dad Alfie.
The story was suspect when those other boys came forward, and it was noted in that other thread. Now the evidence is in. I can't say this makes Chantelle's family look good, manipulating Alfie to get publicity.
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Manipulating a kid, playing with his feelings and probably causing severe mental trauma is bad enough. But inflicting their kinship on the baby? Unforgivable.

Here's hoping there's a book that can be thrown at these people.
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That was somehow expectable the moment the other boys went public.

I mean which 15-year old would jump a twelve year old boy? At my old school the majority of the 15 year old girls had older boyfriends (and all legal issues aside) ranging from age 17 to 20.

I wouldn't be surprised if she knew she was pregnant and that she only frakked him to have something the yellow press would be interested in.

As a side note: Isn't GB currently the leading european country in teen-pregnancy?
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Who says they actually Frakked?

It wouldn't take much to convince a 12 year old they'd had sex.

I agree, however, something should be done about this, from a legal perspective.

Quite frankly, what they are doing to the boy in question is abuse, pure and simple, if not some variant of assault.
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tezunegari wrote:I mean which 15-year old would jump a twelve year old boy? At my old school the majority of the 15 year old girls had older boyfriends (and all legal issues aside) ranging from age 17 to 20.
Did you see a picture of her?

Right chavette munter. Absolutely wouldn't fuck that with a stolen dick.

Also, I very much doubt she had anything resembling a boyfriend, just lots of sex with fellow greasy chavs.
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tezunegari wrote:I mean which 15-year old would jump a twelve year old boy?
One that looks like a boiled potato mayhaps. It's not uncommon for people who can't get dates to look further down the age bracket.
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tezunegari wrote:I mean which 15-year old would jump a twelve year old boy? At my old school the majority of the 15 year old girls had older boyfriends (and all legal issues aside) ranging from age 17 to 20.
I think it's pretty easy to imagine that this girl has a bit of trouble finding dates with people her own age:
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Losonti Tokash wrote:I think it's pretty easy to imagine that this girl has a bit of trouble finding dates with people her own age:
You sure? There were 6 other guys that came forward claiming to be the father.
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The Spartan wrote:
Losonti Tokash wrote:I think it's pretty easy to imagine that this girl has a bit of trouble finding dates with people her own age:
You sure? There were 6 other guys that came forward claiming to be the father.
I doubt anything so formal as a "date" took place. We're talking the absolute bottom of the social bucket here, it's more likely she just copped off with someone after a night hanging around outside the local off license, which appears to be the main social activity among chavs.
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Vendetta wrote:
The Spartan wrote:
Losonti Tokash wrote:I think it's pretty easy to imagine that this girl has a bit of trouble finding dates with people her own age:
You sure? There were 6 other guys that came forward claiming to be the father.
I doubt anything so formal as a "date" took place. We're talking the absolute bottom of the social bucket here, it's more likely she just copped off with someone after a night hanging around outside the local off license, which appears to be the main social activity among chavs.
That's nitpicking. At 15, 'dating', 'boyfriend', 'fuck-buddy', and so forth, are all interchangable.
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So, who is the father?
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Enigma wrote:So, who is the father?
Better question is: Who wants to be the father after all this ruckus? This entire affair is bloody conceited if you ask me.
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I love all the self-righteous anonymous Net hate for some ugly chick here. Like most of the sneering population of this forum is too good to sleep with a girl like that. What a joke.
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Illuminatus Primus wrote:I love all the self-righteous anonymous Net hate for some ugly chick here. Like most of the sneering population of this forum is too good to sleep with a girl like that. What a joke.
Technically stuatory rape laws constrain most of our members- still can someone explain how she is ugly? All I see is that the eyes look a little off.
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i think they think the fact she's pale and not toned is the big complaints.

Of course, she just had a baby, so looking a little pale and off is to be expected.
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Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
Enigma wrote:So, who is the father?
Better question is: Who wants to be the father after all this ruckus? This entire affair is bloody conceited if you ask me.
Not from the biological father's point of view.

They obviously didn't want the 12 year old (and possibly the mother's parents) saddled with this, and may even want custody of the kid.

More then likely, the 12 year old is just the tip of a very, um, interesting iceberg.
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Yeah the story was funky from the start considering that he looks about 8 and the article says that he hadn't started puberty yet which just doesn't make sense. I believe a piece came up in the other thread that both parents were getting paid for the story too.
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Illuminatus Primus wrote:I love all the self-righteous anonymous Net hate for some ugly chick here. Like most of the sneering population of this forum is too good to sleep with a girl like that. What a joke.
Technically stuatory rape laws constrain most of our members- still can someone explain how she is ugly? All I see is that the eyes look a little off.
From my perspective she looks like she got beat by the ugly stick. Your avatar looks more appealing than she does
I love all the self-righteous anonymous Net hate for some ugly chick here. Like most of the sneering population of this forum is too good to sleep with a girl like that. What a joke.
What's the problem with net hate of some trashy ugly slut? As for me, yes, I'm way too good to sleep with a girl like that. She ain't exactly Britiney Spears where you know that is a load of crap. I would hope that most people on this board are too good to sleep with that for reasons beyond just her looks.
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Illuminatus Primus wrote:I love all the self-righteous anonymous Net hate for some ugly chick here. Like most of the sneering population of this forum is too good to sleep with a girl like that. What a joke.
Actually, I'd say I am, based on the facts that she's not remotely attractive, allegedly tried to exploit the fact that she had sex with a 12 year old to get more money and publicity, and had unprotected sex with so many guys in such a short span of time that there's 7 boys claiming to be the father. I wouldn't touch that shit if I was getting paid.

But whatever, since some of us made the admittedly cheap shots about her looks, we're clearly...uh...something.
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I'm not surprised the little urchin who looks 4/5 years younger than he is was not the underaged father after all, nor was it a shocker that the ugly munter who gave birth was a cum dumpster. Britain seems to have such a disproportionate number of dregs and hopeless cases (with alcohol problems comparable to non-agarian indigenous tribes) it has become an international embarassment.
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Illuminatus Primus wrote:I love all the self-righteous anonymous Net hate for some ugly chick here. Like most of the sneering population of this forum is too good to sleep with a girl like that. What a joke.

... and just when I'm starting to think IP has gotten over himself...
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Losonti Tokash wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:I love all the self-righteous anonymous Net hate for some ugly chick here. Like most of the sneering population of this forum is too good to sleep with a girl like that. What a joke.
Actually, I'd say I am, based on the facts that she's not remotely attractive, allegedly tried to exploit the fact that she had sex with a 12 year old to get more money and publicity, and had unprotected sex with so many guys in such a short span of time that there's 7 boys claiming to be the father. I wouldn't touch that shit if I was getting paid.

But whatever, since some of us made the admittedly cheap shots about her looks, we're clearly...uh...something.
I'm implying a lot of snickering, sneering members of our forum who frequently jump into these discussions to toot their horn are often permavirgins, shut-ins, or fat freaks who hide behind Net anonymity have no room to judge others' social standing or sex-worthiness, and do so in order to sound Too Cool For School and Internet Tough Guys. I mean really, none of us have anything to go on on how much like the Fonz you are except your word for it, so why should you spend your time talking about how you're too good for some pussy?
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Illuminatus Primus wrote:I'm implying a lot of snickering, sneering members of our forum who frequently jump into these discussions to toot their horn are often permavirgins, shut-ins, or fat freaks who hide behind Net anonymity have no room to judge others' social standing or sex-worthiness, and do so in order to sound Too Cool For School and Internet Tough Guys.
What is ironic here is that this criticism you're leveling applies to you and your own posts in this very thread without the slightest change.
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Terralthra wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:I'm implying a lot of snickering, sneering members of our forum who frequently jump into these discussions to toot their horn are often permavirgins, shut-ins, or fat freaks who hide behind Net anonymity have no room to judge others' social standing or sex-worthiness, and do so in order to sound Too Cool For School and Internet Tough Guys.
What is ironic here is that this criticism you're leveling applies to you and your own posts in this very thread without the slightest change.
Of course it does. That's why I'm calling out Guys On An Internet Forum for being "I'm too good for that pussy". There's no reason anyone should believe I don't weigh 300 lbs, am 40 years old, and live in my mom's basement. So I don't try to make one-liners about how much better I am than tabloid subjects. Because I am not on personal terms with any of you, and if I'm not, than I shouldn't try to toot my personal horn about how cool I am.
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Illuminatus Primus wrote:]I'm implying a lot of snickering, sneering members of our forum who frequently jump into these discussions to toot their horn are often permavirgins, shut-ins, or fat freaks who hide behind Net anonymity have no room to judge others' social standing or sex-worthiness, and do so in order to sound Too Cool For School and Internet Tough Guys. I mean really, none of us have anything to go on on how much like the Fonz you are except your word for it, so why should you spend your time talking about how you're too good for some pussy?
I'm sorry, but...what?

I haven't even talked about myself except in the context of not wanting anything to do with this chick (at your prompting, no less), and somehow you turn it into "oh man I'm so awesome I get loads of girls all the time" showboating?
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Losonti Tokash wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:]I'm implying a lot of snickering, sneering members of our forum who frequently jump into these discussions to toot their horn are often permavirgins, shut-ins, or fat freaks who hide behind Net anonymity have no room to judge others' social standing or sex-worthiness, and do so in order to sound Too Cool For School and Internet Tough Guys. I mean really, none of us have anything to go on on how much like the Fonz you are except your word for it, so why should you spend your time talking about how you're too good for some pussy?
I'm sorry, but...what?

I haven't even talked about myself except in the context of not wanting anything to do with this chick (at your prompting, no less), and somehow you turn it into "oh man I'm so awesome I get loads of girls all the time" showboating?
Don't take it personally. I'm just complaining about a lot of self-righteousness and male chest-beating and dickwaving on this forum, when so few actually have their chips on the table and many are in no position to judge. It reminds me of when people give Shep shit for his legal history, which even I - sad to say - have been guilty of. But honestly, people should shut up, because most people on here have the shield of anonymity, and no one knows what the worst thing most of us have done.
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