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The following is a letter sent on Tuesday by Jake DeSantis, an executive vice president of the American International Group’s financial products unit, to Edward M. Liddy, the chief executive of A.I.G.

DEAR Mr. Liddy,

It is with deep regret that I submit my notice of resignation from A.I.G. Financial Products. I hope you take the time to read this entire letter. Before describing the details of my decision, I want to offer some context:

I am proud of everything I have done for the commodity and equity divisions of A.I.G.-F.P. I was in no way involved in — or responsible for — the credit default swap transactions that have hamstrung A.I.G. Nor were more than a handful of the 400 current employees of A.I.G.-F.P. Most of those responsible have left the company and have conspicuously escaped the public outrage.

After 12 months of hard work dismantling the company — during which A.I.G. reassured us many times we would be rewarded in March 2009 — we in the financial products unit have been betrayed by A.I.G. and are being unfairly persecuted by elected officials. In response to this, I will now leave the company and donate my entire post-tax retention payment to those suffering from the global economic downturn. My intent is to keep none of the money myself.

I take this action after 11 years of dedicated, honorable service to A.I.G. I can no longer effectively perform my duties in this dysfunctional environment, nor am I being paid to do so. Like you, I was asked to work for an annual salary of $1, and I agreed out of a sense of duty to the company and to the public officials who have come to its aid. Having now been let down by both, I can no longer justify spending 10, 12, 14 hours a day away from my family for the benefit of those who have let me down.

You and I have never met or spoken to each other, so I’d like to tell you about myself. I was raised by schoolteachers working multiple jobs in a world of closing steel mills. My hard work earned me acceptance to M.I.T., and the institute’s generous financial aid enabled me to attend. I had fulfilled my American dream.

I started at this company in 1998 as an equity trader, became the head of equity and commodity trading and, a couple of years before A.I.G.’s meltdown last September, was named the head of business development for commodities. Over this period the equity and commodity units were consistently profitable — in most years generating net profits of well over $100 million. Most recently, during the dismantling of A.I.G.-F.P., I was an integral player in the pending sale of its well-regarded commodity index business to UBS. As you know, business unit sales like this are crucial to A.I.G.’s effort to repay the American taxpayer.

The profitability of the businesses with which I was associated clearly supported my compensation. I never received any pay resulting from the credit default swaps that are now losing so much money. I did, however, like many others here, lose a significant portion of my life savings in the form of deferred compensation invested in the capital of A.I.G.-F.P. because of those losses. In this way I have personally suffered from this controversial activity — directly as well as indirectly with the rest of the taxpayers.

I have the utmost respect for the civic duty that you are now performing at A.I.G. You are as blameless for these credit default swap losses as I am. You answered your country’s call and you are taking a tremendous beating for it.

But you also are aware that most of the employees of your financial products unit had nothing to do with the large losses. And I am disappointed and frustrated over your lack of support for us. I and many others in the unit feel betrayed that you failed to stand up for us in the face of untrue and unfair accusations from certain members of Congress last Wednesday and from the press over our retention payments, and that you didn’t defend us against the baseless and reckless comments made by the attorneys general of New York and Connecticut.

My guess is that in October, when you learned of these retention contracts, you realized that the employees of the financial products unit needed some incentive to stay and that the contracts, being both ethical and useful, should be left to stand. That’s probably why A.I.G. management assured us on three occasions during that month that the company would “live up to its commitment” to honor the contract guarantees.

That may be why you decided to accelerate by three months more than a quarter of the amounts due under the contracts. That action signified to us your support, and was hardly something that one would do if he truly found the contracts “distasteful.”

That may also be why you authorized the balance of the payments on March 13.

At no time during the past six months that you have been leading A.I.G. did you ask us to revise, renegotiate or break these contracts — until several hours before your appearance last week before Congress.

I think your initial decision to honor the contracts was both ethical and financially astute, but it seems to have been politically unwise. It’s now apparent that you either misunderstood the agreements that you had made — tacit or otherwise — with the Federal Reserve, the Treasury, various members of Congress and Attorney General Andrew Cuomo of New York, or were not strong enough to withstand the shifting political winds.

You’ve now asked the current employees of A.I.G.-F.P. to repay these earnings. As you can imagine, there has been a tremendous amount of serious thought and heated discussion about how we should respond to this breach of trust.

As most of us have done nothing wrong, guilt is not a motivation to surrender our earnings. We have worked 12 long months under these contracts and now deserve to be paid as promised. None of us should be cheated of our payments any more than a plumber should be cheated after he has fixed the pipes but a careless electrician causes a fire that burns down the house.

Many of the employees have, in the past six months, turned down job offers from more stable employers, based on A.I.G.’s assurances that the contracts would be honored. They are now angry about having been misled by A.I.G.’s promises and are not inclined to return the money as a favor to you.

The only real motivation that anyone at A.I.G.-F.P. now has is fear. Mr. Cuomo has threatened to “name and shame,” and his counterpart in Connecticut, Richard Blumenthal, has made similar threats — even though attorneys general are supposed to stand for due process, to conduct trials in courts and not the press.

So what am I to do? There’s no easy answer. I know that because of hard work I have benefited more than most during the economic boom and have saved enough that my family is unlikely to suffer devastating losses during the current bust. Some might argue that members of my profession have been overpaid, and I wouldn’t disagree.

That is why I have decided to donate 100 percent of the effective after-tax proceeds of my retention payment directly to organizations that are helping people who are suffering from the global downturn. This is not a tax-deduction gimmick; I simply believe that I at least deserve to dictate how my earnings are spent, and do not want to see them disappear back into the obscurity of A.I.G.’s or the federal government’s budget. Our earnings have caused such a distraction for so many from the more pressing issues our country faces, and I would like to see my share of it benefit those truly in need.

On March 16 I received a payment from A.I.G. amounting to $742,006.40, after taxes. In light of the uncertainty over the ultimate taxation and legal status of this payment, the actual amount I donate may be less — in fact, it may end up being far less if the recent House bill raising the tax on the retention payments to 90 percent stands. Once all the money is donated, you will immediately receive a list of all recipients.

This choice is right for me. I wish others at A.I.G.-F.P. luck finding peace with their difficult decision, and only hope their judgment is not clouded by fear.

Mr. Liddy, I wish you success in your commitment to return the money extended by the American government, and luck with the continued unwinding of the company’s diverse businesses — especially those remaining credit default swaps. I’ll continue over the short term to help make sure no balls are dropped, but after what’s happened this past week I can’t remain much longer — there is too much bad blood. I’m not sure how you will greet my resignation, but at least Attorney General Blumenthal should be relieved that I’ll leave under my own power and will not need to be “shoved out the door.”

Sincerely,

Jake DeSantis
Not really much I can say to add to this; it is less something to be commented on and discussed then a further insight into the minds of these guys. From where I stand he should slink off with his tail between his legs and be glad he hasn't truly been held accountable for what he and his did. The fact that he keeps going on about "this is someone elses fault" and "we earned this money through our actions" is highly telling to me. And "I'm going to donate it, I'm going to donate all of it... except that I may not donate all of it after all" kinda speaks for itself. But not much to add discussion wise, so a mod may wish to shuffle it into another thread.

So yeah, there you go.
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Did he walk out in handcuffs? No? Well, there is always later for that sort of thing.
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I'd need a pair of pincers and a microscope to play this fiddle.

These guys are so utterly disconnected from reality that they really have no shame at all.
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It's fascinating to watch a narcissist throw a temper-tantrum.
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I like the way that he attempts to draw a relation to humble beginnings and steel mill workers making it seem like a ground up American success story whilst his parents were university educated teachers.
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Actually rereading and considering this, I'm slightly more sympathetic to the guy - his complaints are less about "I deserve the money and take no responsibility for my actions or the actions of those under me" (though that is there) and more his complaining that AIG threw them under the bus when it got politically convenient. Which they really did. AIG thought this was going to be a short bump and they could go back to their scam, so they sold these guys on $1 a year salaries to appease the public while they thought they would still be making a lot of money. Then as soon as the public started clammering for their heads, they sold them out on the bonuses, again not because of any particular reason other then it was politically expedient. 99.99999% of what this guy expects to come his way is bullshit, but the idea that the company should have some loyalty towards you when you show loyalty to it is not entirely unreasonable to me. An unlikely expectation here in the west perhaps, but ideally loyalty should flow both ways.
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Why should he be punished for something that was not under his control? He brings up a valid point (if true) that the people for the credit default swaps are long gone, and that the people being punished have nothing to do with it.

I also have to agree with Ender that it sucks for him that they were sold on the $1 salary and the rest of their money later as bonuses. He was promised $X to work for the year, and is now being left with little for putting in most likely long hours of work. AIG just seems to be trying to gain the most brownie points from the people, loyalties be damned.
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Darth Mall wrote:Why should he be punished for something that was not under his control? He brings up a valid point (if true) that the people for the credit default swaps are long gone, and that the people being punished have nothing to do with it.
So ... we were told earlier that the bonuses were an attempt to maintain staff retention, and now we hear that this was actually an entirely new crew of people who were brought in after the entire old crew was unceremoniously fired.

That smells like a mountainous pile of bullshit to me.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Darth Mall wrote:Why should he be punished for something that was not under his control? He brings up a valid point (if true) that the people for the credit default swaps are long gone, and that the people being punished have nothing to do with it.
So ... we were told earlier that the bonuses were an attempt to maintain staff retention, and now we hear that this was actually an entirely new crew of people who were brought in after the entire old crew was unceremoniously fired.

That smells like a mountainous pile of bullshit to me.
From what I can tell he has been working for AIG for some time, and as you said, this bonus was a way of retaining him (and the others) while giving them a politically "good" salary of $1.

Just because some people have left doesn't mean that all the employees are gone.
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If he's so upset and disappointed, then why the fuck doesn't he name some names and get the guilty jackasses put in jail? Oh, that's right, you had nothing to do with those people and don't know who they are, but you know most of them left the company. Uh-huh. How hard could it be to get together with the HR folks and find out who those fuckers are? And on top of that, if you suspected the CDS people were engaging in fraud and playing games, then why didn't you use your whistleblower rights and do something about it?

All I see is a page of whining and excuses.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Darth Mall wrote:Why should he be punished for something that was not under his control? He brings up a valid point (if true) that the people for the credit default swaps are long gone, and that the people being punished have nothing to do with it.
So ... we were told earlier that the bonuses were an attempt to maintain staff retention, and now we hear that this was actually an entirely new crew of people who were brought in after the entire old crew was unceremoniously fired.

That smells like a mountainous pile of bullshit to me.
Uhm...

(The people responsible for CDS swaps) being a subset of (The management at AIG) so that you can remove or fire the people responsible for the CDS swaps and still be left with many/most of the other workers and managers. Then the remaining people at AIG were offered bonuses to stay on for long enough to arrange a soft landing.

There would only be a contradiction if (The people responsible for CDS swaps) were the only managers at AIG at the time.
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:roll: I wasn't saying that one conclusively disproves the other, moron. I said I smell bullshit, as in "I think the guy is lying". Do you seriously believe that there was just some small group that was causing all this trouble, and that they were all fired?
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Darth Wong wrote::roll: I wasn't saying that one conclusively disproves the other, moron. I said I smell bullshit, as in "I think the guy is lying". Do you seriously believe that there was just some small group that was causing all this trouble, and that they were all fired?
And even if it was, he was the guy in charge. "The Buck Stops Here". He is absolutely responsible for what his underlings were doing. Hell part of what he was getting paid for was to make sure his underlings kept doing that stuff because it was profitable. So it doesn't matter if he didn't do it, or if other people took what he was doing and ran it into the ground, he was in charge so he is still responsible.
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Boiling it down to its roots the letter is basically:

1) Every penny made for the company prior to 2007 by AIGFP was due to me
2) Every penny lost by the ocmpany since then was due to the market
3) I have no responsibility for the nefarious things that may or may not have happened
4) I have been unfairly targeted for retribution


The only one of those 4 key components with any semblence to reality is the last. The dude may be a douche but he is one amongst a literal sea. That AIGFP has received so much attention to the exclusion of the rest of the bandwagoneers whose companies haven't yet gone under through almost sheer luck is the only fair criticism this guy makes so were i his boss I'd be rather happy to have him off staff so I could bring someone cheaper and much more willing to prove his worth.
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Asshole wrote:I know that because of hard work I have benefited more than most during the economic boom and have saved enough that my family is unlikely to suffer devastating losses during the current bust. Some might argue that members of my profession have been overpaid, and I wouldn’t disagree.
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How much of the AIG bonus money is going to executives and directors, as opposed to middle managers? Honestly, I think if someone's working for $100k/year and is getting a $15k bonus, they should probably be allowed to keep that if that was what they negotiated for. I think that situation's totally different from people who are making $10 million a year and getting a $5 million bonus.
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I think people who make over $1 million should be stripped off bonuses, the rest can have it. In any case, that's up for the legislators to decide.
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Stas Bush wrote:I think people who make over $1 million should be stripped off bonuses, the rest can have it. In any case, that's up for the legislators to decide.
I would be fine with that. I would also support a sliding scale, such that if you made less than $500k but more than (say) $300k you get to keep some fraction of it, etc.

I just don't want to screw people who worked for AIG and were mid-level managers or staff--those people probably legitimately didn't do anything wrong (although that should obviously be rebuttable for bonus repatriation purposes), and if they fulfilled the terms of their contracts then I think they should probably keep most or all of what they had been promised when they signed their employment contracts.
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The government owns AIG and is the majority shareholder. As far as I'm concerned they can do whatever the hell they want, if the government says everyone at AIG can work for a buck or quit, well, that's tough shit. The employees' entitlement to their contracts & pay ended the moment they got bailed out & taken over by the government. Don't like your pay? Fine, go find another job, cause if it weren't for the government you wouldn't have a fucking job, and would've been unemployed for the last 6 months. In fact, how about we fire your ass and claw back the last 6 months of your pay, benefits, and expenses including all bonuses?
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Why is it that when things go well - it is a pure philosophical question of your merit and contribution - and when they go wrong, its always luck/market/random factors/etc. Maybe their success-era pay should reflect those factors on the upside as well. I am tired of the ultra-powerful and rich pretending that luck had nothing to do with it, and that they're uebermenschen that should be worshiped with huge paydays and political privileges. And of course, they don't owe any extraordinary obligations or responsibilities commiserate with those extraordinary privileges.
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aerius wrote:The government owns AIG and is the majority shareholder. As far as I'm concerned they can do whatever the hell they want, if the government says everyone at AIG can work for a buck or quit, well, that's tough shit. The employees' entitlement to their contracts & pay ended the moment they got bailed out & taken over by the government. Don't like your pay? Fine, go find another job, cause if it weren't for the government you wouldn't have a fucking job, and would've been unemployed for the last 6 months. In fact, how about we fire your ass and claw back the last 6 months of your pay, benefits, and expenses including all bonuses?
If they do all quit, then the government investment in the company will be for naught. No one benefits from such a situation.
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Master of Ossus wrote:If they do all quit, then the government investment in the company will be for naught. No one benefits from such a situation.
The taxpayers benefit since it stops the flow of money into an endless money sink. If AIG is disolved and dead, they can't put any more money into it. The "loans" which the government has given to AIG can never be repaid, I believe the interest is something like 10% and there's close to $200 billion in loans right now, did AIG ever make $20 billion a year? Fuck no. Which means they're going to default and die. AIG has no prospects going forward. They're as dead as a dodo, and it's about time we buried them. The government investment was for naught in the first place, it's time we all recognized reality.
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Re: AIG FP head quits, blames taxpayers

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aerius wrote:The taxpayers benefit since it stops the flow of money into an endless money sink. If AIG is disolved and dead, they can't put any more money into it. The "loans" which the government has given to AIG can never be repaid, I believe the interest is something like 10% and there's close to $200 billion in loans right now, did AIG ever make $20 billion a year? Fuck no. Which means they're going to default and die. AIG has no prospects going forward. They're as dead as a dodo, and it's about time we buried them. The government investment was for naught in the first place, it's time we all recognized reality.
So far as I can tell, the US has loaned AIG "only" about $14 billion at Libor+8.5. The rest of the bailout was to buy almost an 80% equity stake in the company in preferred stock. If AIG returned to its 2006 level of profitability it could pay off the entire debt in about 5 quarters, and the government would sitll have equity. Given that that's the bailout package, I think it's reasonable to try and hold onto potentially valuable employees by paying at least mid-level guys who didn't do anything wrong and who were reassured by the government that they would still get their salaries.
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Re: AIG FP head quits, blames taxpayers

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Nope, $85 billion at Libor +8.5%, plus another $80-90 billion in other loan facilities & bailouts at rates which I can't find, it's probably buried somewhere in Bloomberg but a quick google news search doesn't turn up anything. So minimum of around $10 billion a year in interest. Somehow, I don't see AIG having any more years like 2006 (unless they pull an Enron) since the securitization & derivatives fraud market is dead for the foreseeable future.
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Re: AIG FP head quits, blames taxpayers

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aerius wrote:Nope, $85 billion at Libor +8.5%, plus another $80-90 billion in other loan facilities & bailouts at rates which I can't find, it's probably buried somewhere in Bloomberg but a quick google news search doesn't turn up anything. So minimum of around $10 billion a year in interest. Somehow, I don't see AIG having any more years like 2006 (unless they pull an Enron) since the securitization & derivatives fraud market is dead for the foreseeable future.
That loan has since been combined with the newer bailout money and renegotiated into a much lower rate (IIRC around 6% or lower).
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