Tyrannosaurus vs. Giganotosaurus

[Kintaro]

Where did the poll go?

[Kintaro]

Something screwy is going on around here.

[Frank Hipper]

In my own ignorant opinion, I'd go T-Rex as well. He's got the more robust build, it's got to count for something.

[RedImperator]

Yep, I think that was Sue's broken tail.

It was indeed Sue's tail.

[RedImperator]

Thanks RedI and Kintaro. now I know, and .... well you know the rest...

I do think that T-Rex would wipe the floor with the Gigantisauraus. Much like the T-Rex did at the end of JP with the velociraptors.

No, thank you. Any chance I have to blather on at great lengths about dinosaurs, I take.

[Kintaro]

Has Dr. Rigby published his work on his giant T. rex, the one everyone calls the Imperator?

[Alyeska]

And Dr. Horner (the equivalent to Darkstar in the T. rex: predator or scavenger debate) says that the Spinosaurus is the ultimate predator

And I suppose you have more experience and knowledge about palentology then Dr. Jack Horner, who has been studying it since the late 70s and early 80s.

Give me a fucking break. You are slandering someone with no proof and you have far less experience then he does. Unless you have equal credintials to Jack Horner and can provide evidence that proves him wrong, I suggest you Shut The Fuck Up.

[Kintaro]

And Dr. Horner (the equivalent to Darkstar in the T. rex: predator or scavenger debate) says that the Spinosaurus is the ultimate predator

And I suppose you have more experience and knowledge about palentology then Dr. Jack Horner, who has been studying it since the late 70s and early 80s.

Give me a fucking break. You are slandering someone with no proof and you have far less experience then he does. Unless you have equal credintials to Jack Horner and can provide evidence that proves him wrong, I suggest you Shut The Fuck Up.

Excuse me? Just because I do not have a goddamn degree yet does not fucking forbid me from slandering someone. I have read a lot of his work, and a lot of his conclusions are the inverse of what the evidence suggests.

[starfury]

In my own ignorant opinion, I'd go T-Rex as well. He's got the more robust build, it's got to count for something.

don't forget T'rex's awesome bite, which is far superior to any of it's cousins like Gigantisauraus, all of which have weaker bites, they may be larger and heavier in some cases, but none has Tyranosaurs's crushing bite.

[Stravo]

And Dr. Horner (the equivalent to Darkstar in the T. rex: predator or scavenger debate) says that the Spinosaurus is the ultimate predator

And I suppose you have more experience and knowledge about palentology then Dr. Jack Horner, who has been studying it since the late 70s and early 80s.

Give me a fucking break. You are slandering someone with no proof and you have far less experience then he does. Unless you have equal credintials to Jack Horner and can provide evidence that proves him wrong, I suggest you Shut The Fuck Up.

Alyeska,

Slandering is what Darkstar does everytime he opens his mouth about Mike and calls him a liar and worse. What Kintaro is doing is stating an opinion. At least he's read the guy's work and has come up with his own conclusions unlike some Trekkies who just spout shit on this site without ever having READ IT.

He's making an informed opinion based on the evidence he's read. Thats a mite sight better than most folks and their so called "opinions" on other matters on this site.

Cut him some slack.

[Kintaro]

Thank you, Stravo.

[Darth Gojira]

T. Rex, that deadly crunch of hers has GOT to hurt. Only other Rexes, the tanklike Ankylosaurs, and the rather underrated ceratopsians stand a chance.

Fun fact, it seems that it was Spinosaurus that was the scavenger and fishgrabber (fissssh). Basically, a young Hyaenodon vs. Gollum.

[RedImperator]

And Dr. Horner (the equivalent to Darkstar in the T. rex: predator or scavenger debate) says that the Spinosaurus is the ultimate predator

And I suppose you have more experience and knowledge about palentology then Dr. Jack Horner, who has been studying it since the late 70s and early 80s.

Give me a fucking break. You are slandering someone with no proof and you have far less experience then he does. Unless you have equal credintials to Jack Horner and can provide evidence that proves him wrong, I suggest you Shut The Fuck Up.

I would never think of questioning Jack Horner's conclusions about ornithopods, either their anatomy or behavior. But Kintaro and I are both familiar with Dr. Horner's position on Rex (it's hard for anyone into dinosaurs not to be, because he makes sure to mention it in practically every single interview he gives), and more importantly, we're familiar with the arguments of OTHER paleontologists who think he's flat dead damn wrong. Nobody who studies predators thinks Rex was strictly a scavenger. Why Horner continues to beat on that point, I don't know, but I've seen the evidence and what the predator specialists think, I assume Kintaro has too, and we've both got the right to say we think he's wrong on this issue.

[RedImperator]

T. Rex, that deadly crunch of hers has GOT to hurt. Only other Rexes, the tanklike Ankylosaurs, and the rather underrated ceratopsians stand a chance.

Fun fact, it seems that it was Spinosaurus that was the scavenger and fishgrabber (fissssh). Basically, a young Hyaenodon vs. Gollum.

Frankly, I don't think the ceratopsians had much of a chance either. If Rex came at them from the sides or behind, they were dead.

[Kintaro]

T. Rex, that deadly crunch of hers has GOT to hurt. Only other Rexes, the tanklike Ankylosaurs, and the rather underrated ceratopsians stand a chance.

Fun fact, it seems that it was Spinosaurus that was the scavenger and fishgrabber (fissssh). Basically, a young Hyaenodon vs. Gollum.

Frankly, I don't think the ceratopsians had much of a chance either. If Rex came at them from the sides or behind, they were dead.

Do you think that T. rex could have used its jaws crush an ankylosaur shell, based on the data inferred feeding bite estimate? Its jaws are so damn strong, it had to be used for something of that effect.

[Darth Yoshi]

I say T-Rex, because of its huge teeth powerful tail.

[Andrew J.]

Tyrannosaurus rex, because its name is far cooler.

[generator_g1]

Gigantasauraus... wasn't one of Godzilla's enemy monsters named something like that?

His name was Gigan...BTW if I somehow discover a very big unknown carnosaur,can I name him Godzillasaurus?

[Shadow WarChief]

His name was Gigan...BTW if I somehow discover a very big unknown carnosaur,can I name him Godzillasaurus?

Short answer:

It's been done







Long answer:


"Thus far I have treated Godzilla as if it were a real dinosaur. But was there such a dinosaur? Yes and no. In 1997, I honored the movie star by naming a large, 225 million year old dinosaur from new mexico Gojirasaurus quayi"


p.106 of the Official Godzilla Compendium taken from Kenneth Carpenter's analysis of Godzilla as a dinosaur

[RedImperator]

T. Rex, that deadly crunch of hers has GOT to hurt. Only other Rexes, the tanklike Ankylosaurs, and the rather underrated ceratopsians stand a chance.

Fun fact, it seems that it was Spinosaurus that was the scavenger and fishgrabber (fissssh). Basically, a young Hyaenodon vs. Gollum.

Frankly, I don't think the ceratopsians had much of a chance either. If Rex came at them from the sides or behind, they were dead.

Do you think that T. rex could have used its jaws crush an ankylosaur shell, based on the data inferred feeding bite estimate? Its jaws are so damn strong, it had to be used for something of that effect.

I don't have the slightest idea, to be honest. I have no idea what the strength of those shells were. Maybe the skull, but not the back armor. Gotta watch that tail, too--a broken leg is a death sentence if you're a Rex.

PS I wrote a time travel story once where Daspletosaurus was an ankylosaur killer--Daspletosaurs were built like small T-Rexes but they had bigger and heavier teeth).

[Kintaro]

Well, aren't the shells of ankylosaurs like small pebbels, not turtle shells? I think if that is the case, then the T. rexes should not have too much of a proplem right? Also, I thought Sue had broken leg (or was it infected?), and she got over that pretty well.

[Kintaro]

I'm still furious over what Alyeska wrote. Where the hell is he and why has he not responded? (I don't want this to turn into a flamefest, but he needs to get back here and explain himself).

[RedImperator]

Well, aren't the shells of ankylosaurs like small pebbels, not turtle shells? I think if that is the case, then the T. rexes should not have too much of a proplem right? Also, I thought Sue had broken leg (or was it infected?), and she got over that pretty well.

No, that back armor was interlocking plates of solid bone. Nothing this side of a .50 caliber machine gun is getting through that. The head plates were thinner, but I really don't know if an Ankylosaurus is worth the risk.

[Shinova]

Are we talking about the spinosaurus in Jurassic Park 3 or the gigantosaurus found somewhere in Argentina or some South American country??

[Kintaro]

Well, aren't the shells of ankylosaurs like small pebbels, not turtle shells? I think if that is the case, then the T. rexes should not have too much of a proplem right? Also, I thought Sue had broken leg (or was it infected?), and she got over that pretty well.

No, that back armor was interlocking plates of solid bone. Nothing this side of a .50 caliber machine gun is getting through that. The head plates were thinner, but I really don't know if an Ankylosaurus is worth the risk.

Ahh, that does make a difference.