I was suprised to see 4chan getting so much press, and the majority of it devoid of the typical "PEDO/HACKER/TERRORIST" lines I typically see. Is 4chan and /b/ getting more and more pervasive through the internet culture as a whole? The article makes some good points about things they've done, like getting Rick Astley back into a career, but I don't know that they're that much more accomplished than the Colbert Nation. Still, it's a good read. Link is in the quote tag.
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4chan: The Most Powerful People on the Internet
I was suprised to see 4chan getting so much press, and the majority of it devoid of the typical "PEDO/HACKER/TERRORIST" lines I typically see. Is 4chan and /b/ getting more and more pervasive through the internet culture as a whole? The article makes some good points about things they've done, like getting Rick Astley back into a career, but I don't know that they're that much more accomplished than the Colbert Nation. Still, it's a good read. Link is in the quote tag.
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Oh man, this is just too hilarious. Are you sure this isn't a late April Fools day joke? I think Fox is still butthurt over having their message boards desu spammed to death. Seriously, /b/tards the most powerful people on the internet?
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So... power is no longer defined by buying-ability, military might, or social/religious influence across multiple mediums... but rather the ability of a group of immature twits to exploit weaknesses in social-network sites?
I used to like 4chan, thinking of it as huge pile of shit with a few diamonds buried somewhere in it. Then I realized I could find those diamonds in many other places without having to dig through piles of shit first.
I used to like 4chan, thinking of it as huge pile of shit with a few diamonds buried somewhere in it. Then I realized I could find those diamonds in many other places without having to dig through piles of shit first.
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Well, their numbers ARE legion. They possess enough anonymous assholes willing to contribute the the lulz to wreck havoc on pretty much whatever catches their eye at the moment. Thanks to the perfect congregation of idiots, pricks and hackers, they're sitting on a set of pretty broad powers when it comes to internet vandalism and they know it.
As an occasional visitor to 4chan (mostly for the traditional games board and laughing at the cesspool that is /b/) I've seen the process that leads to a site's downfall first hand. In a few short hours the combined efforts of dozens or hundreds can take down or require complete resets on pretty much any forum there is and if they're attention span is long enough that night they can ruin pretty much any website short of large corporations or government, and even then, look what happened to the Scientology site in the early days of Project Chanology. It's sorta like a random generator of destruction; though obviously certain companies could pull the plug and take down far more of the internet than any amount of /b/ antics, /b/ can strike pretty much anywhere.\
Also, their antics can be pretty hilarious. I mean, they got Oprah to say "over 9000 penises" on air.
As an occasional visitor to 4chan (mostly for the traditional games board and laughing at the cesspool that is /b/) I've seen the process that leads to a site's downfall first hand. In a few short hours the combined efforts of dozens or hundreds can take down or require complete resets on pretty much any forum there is and if they're attention span is long enough that night they can ruin pretty much any website short of large corporations or government, and even then, look what happened to the Scientology site in the early days of Project Chanology. It's sorta like a random generator of destruction; though obviously certain companies could pull the plug and take down far more of the internet than any amount of /b/ antics, /b/ can strike pretty much anywhere.\
Also, their antics can be pretty hilarious. I mean, they got Oprah to say "over 9000 penises" on air.
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Bear in mind this is "4-Chan as seen through the lens of Fox News", so there's a bit of the blind men describing the elephant to this. I don't see Fox News as being the sharpest tools in the shed when it comes to comprehending a society like the Internet in general, much less something like 'chan.
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In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
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It is on the Internet. Rather than a tribute to the power of 4chan, this is more of an indictment of the lowest common denominator nature of the Internet.Oni Koneko Damien wrote:So... power is no longer defined by buying-ability, military might, or social/religious influence across multiple mediums... but rather the ability of a group of immature twits to exploit weaknesses in social-network sites?
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Gah, and there's me failing to read the criteria. Yes, they have a huge amount of people congregating in one area, engaging in the same social memes and trends. Only a tiny percentage of them have the skill and motivation to actually cause a lot of trouble for other sites, but their sheer numbers guarantess that this small percentage is still a formidable number. Add in the ability to get larger numbers of the 'unskilled' channers to do a simple, repetative, but ultimately harmful action to another site, and yeah, it is a vicious (relatively speaking) power.Darth Wong wrote:It is on the Internet. Rather than a tribute to the power of 4chan, this is more of an indictment of the lowest common denominator nature of the Internet.Oni Koneko Damien wrote:So... power is no longer defined by buying-ability, military might, or social/religious influence across multiple mediums... but rather the ability of a group of immature twits to exploit weaknesses in social-network sites?
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For christ sake, this is the last thing anyone needs to say about them. As if they needed anything else to fuel their delusions of significance. They're essentially no different than third graders doing obnoxious shit and saying "Does this bug you? Does this bug you? How about this?" over and over, and the best tonic to let them wither and die is to ignore them.
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Didn't some people from 4chan tried to spam the board with some child porn or something like it? Although I have to wonder, what kind of social life does most people who are active in 4chan have?
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'None' would be the most accurate answer. Most of those on the board who actually go out of their way to cause trouble on other sites and/or stalk/harass other people are the type that lack anything better to do with their own time, I'd hazard. Give them a huge sandbox to play in, with literally millions of others just like them, and you'll get the inevitable social competition, which results in cock-sizing and attention-whoring by attempting ever more outragious and annoying acts.ray245 wrote:Didn't some people from 4chan tried to spam the board with some child porn or something like it? Although I have to wonder, what kind of social life does most people who are active in 4chan have?
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More like two people; no more than three.ray245 wrote:Didn't some people from 4chan tried to spam the board with some child porn or something like it? Although I have to wonder, what kind of social life does most people who are active in 4chan have?
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And unfortunately, since they've identified themselves with the anti-Scientology trend in the last few years, they enjoy all the benefits of appearing to be participating in activism for social justice, when in fact they're scant better. 4chan is to the average internet tard as Christianity is to the average dispassionate/moderate churchgoer - indispensable for various moral causes.Oni Koneko Damien wrote:'None' would be the most accurate answer. Most of those on the board who actually go out of their way to cause trouble on other sites and/or stalk/harass other people are the type that lack anything better to do with their own time, I'd hazard. Give them a huge sandbox to play in, with literally millions of others just like them, and you'll get the inevitable social competition, which results in cock-sizing and attention-whoring by attempting ever more outragious and annoying acts.ray245 wrote:Didn't some people from 4chan tried to spam the board with some child porn or something like it? Although I have to wonder, what kind of social life does most people who are active in 4chan have?
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Didn't 4chan report some guy for posting a picture of his niece and saying 'I'm going to rape her'? IIRC they used her school mascott name on her shirt and the state they lived in to figure out her identity and then turned everything over to the school principal.
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The child porn spammers were from a spinoff of 4chan. 4chan doesn't support board invasions anymore.
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Some chan or another. To do a repeat of that, they would actually have to put in some really serious effort now.
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Reminds me of this:
http://www.cracked.com/article_17170_8- ... ntism.html
Also, the article mentioned that the site was running out of money. Is that true and what would happen if it shut down? Where would its multitudes go?
http://www.cracked.com/article_17170_8- ... ntism.html
Also, the article mentioned that the site was running out of money. Is that true and what would happen if it shut down? Where would its multitudes go?
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It's always running out of money and it's always going down but it's never gone. I don't think 4chan is going anywhere.Samuel wrote:Reminds me of this:
http://www.cracked.com/article_17170_8- ... ntism.html
Also, the article mentioned that the site was running out of money. Is that true and what would happen if it shut down? Where would its multitudes go?
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Chan's are like roaches in some ways me thinks, once they propagate they will be there in one form or another.
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I hate Scientology too and all, but this is almost unbearably lame as a symbol of protest.FOX News wrote:Anonymous members, often wearing masks depicting the main character in the politically charged comic book and movie "V for Vendetta," protest across the country, claiming the religion endorses Internet censorship.
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Actually it's a pretty good idea considering how Scientology has a history of harassing people who protest the church if they can get a name and face.Ziggy Stardust wrote:I hate Scientology too and all, but this is almost unbearably lame as a symbol of protest.FOX News wrote:Anonymous members, often wearing masks depicting the main character in the politically charged comic book and movie "V for Vendetta," protest across the country, claiming the religion endorses Internet censorship.
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Eh, news outlets do articles on 4chan every once in a while.
The sheer number of posters basically guarantees they influence the Internet through osmosis. Even if a meme did not ORIGINATE on 4chan, they are probably the ones who propagated it enough that it became well-known.
The sheer number of posters basically guarantees they influence the Internet through osmosis. Even if a meme did not ORIGINATE on 4chan, they are probably the ones who propagated it enough that it became well-known.
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I won't be surprised if a number of of posters at 4Chan are Anarcho-libertarians ( given the fact that the message about "V for Vendetta" is supposed to be anarchism).Ziggy Stardust wrote:I hate Scientology too and all, but this is almost unbearably lame as a symbol of protest.FOX News wrote:Anonymous members, often wearing masks depicting the main character in the politically charged comic book and movie "V for Vendetta," protest across the country, claiming the religion endorses Internet censorship.
I would find that 4chan is a representation on how the internet is really like, where people tends to propagate and share their ideas about anarchism due to a lack of internet police for instance.
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I have come to find 4chan becoming an increasing internet boogyman of sorts.
Did your popular website get DDoS attacked? It must have 4chan! Oh noes.
This is worse because they can take credit for someone else's attack and have it be believed.
And yes, I visit 4chan regularly on /k/ (weapons). I like the pictures.
Did your popular website get DDoS attacked? It must have 4chan! Oh noes.
This is worse because they can take credit for someone else's attack and have it be believed.
And yes, I visit 4chan regularly on /k/ (weapons). I like the pictures.
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Basically 4chan is internet al-qaeda if something blows up, they can claim it's them and FOX News will run the story within minutes. If someone's blog goes down, 4chan will claim credit if they want it.
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The hilarity of it is Fox doesn't seem to realize that by giving them attention, they're really just encouraging /b/tards. For the most part all you have to do to defeat annoying channers is ignore them.Duckie wrote:Basically 4chan is internet al-qaeda if something blows up, they can claim it's them and FOX News will run the story within minutes. If someone's blog goes down, 4chan will claim credit if they want it.
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