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From the start the Galactica was the heart of the fleet.. It servged as protector and command for the fleet, providing more services and materials then any other ship.. But, it was never Meant for the role it wasd eventually forced to play...
In this sub, YOU can pick from all of SciFi to choose a ship to replace Galactica, something that will provide resources, repair, machine shops, recycling, etc... You ar limited to a ship roughly the same over all size as Galactica.
In this sub, YOU can pick from all of SciFi to choose a ship to replace Galactica, something that will provide resources, repair, machine shops, recycling, etc... You ar limited to a ship roughly the same over all size as Galactica.
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Re: nBSG Force Sub: Choose a new Galactica
Simple...Imperial (or Imperator, whichever is canon) class Star Destroyer. Commence one-shotting basestars.
Another good choice would be the Andromeda Ascendant. Capable of unleashing 27-megaton missiles at a rate of 320 per second. Nighty night Cylons.
Another good choice would be the Andromeda Ascendant. Capable of unleashing 27-megaton missiles at a rate of 320 per second. Nighty night Cylons.
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Culture Limited Systems Vehicle. (Some MSVs are 3.5 klicks in length, while ROUs are say, 300 meters, so I'm sure you could find something around 1.5 in the 'LSV' category.
Let's see how far the cylon genocide campaign gets now.
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The special "human transport" Xeelee ship that was tasked to take the remains of humanity through the Ring. Capable of containing thousands of people due to collapsed space in the hull, as Xeelee-ship nearly indestructible, fast, resourceful... And if all else fails, it can build you your own planet complete with a sun and biosphere
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The mothership from Homeworld.
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That is a very amusing thought. I can only imagine the Cylons' reaction as their ships, fighters, and practically everything start doing things they weren't expecting. The LSV wouldn't even have to fire a single shot to keep the Cylons away, much less re-take the Colonies.NecronLord wrote:Culture Limited Systems Vehicle. (Some MSVs are 3.5 klicks in length, while ROUs are say, 300 meters, so I'm sure you could find something around 1.5 in the 'LSV' category.
Let's see how far the cylon genocide campaign gets now.
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World Devastator. The ISD will eventually run out of resources, and while Romy DOES have the ability to furnish supplies from raw materials, we don't (far as I know) know the extent to which she can do so so she, too, might eventually run dry. Not to mention that her being able to supply her own needs doesn't necessarily mean she can do much for the rest of the fleet. With a World Devastator, you get Wars level firepower and the ability to turn virtually ANYTHING into much need supplies AND more Wars level fighting ships.
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I nominate Babylon 4 with a full crew compliment as well as fully stocked w/ starfuries. That thing was massive, though I'm having trouble getting hard numbers for their weapon capabilities.
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I'm afraid B4 is quite a bit larger than the Galactica, though.
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It's certainly not the ideal ship, but I wonder how the Enterprise-D would do. It can manufacture a remarkable amount of equipment and foodstuff from raw materials. Though it's a little fragile, it does have deflector shields and pack a lot of firepower. It wouldn't be able to do much against a mass Cylon Raider attack, though.
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I must confess, I wasn't a big BSG fan. B4 is 7.5km long, so if that makes it too big, I capitulate and submit for your approval The SDF-1.Batman wrote:I'm afraid B4 is quite a bit larger than the Galactica, though.
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Um-I don't recall the Big E-D carrying industrial replicators and the amount of goods she can supply out of personal service replicators is rather limited. Also, depending on how long nBSG stardrive jumps can be, she might have a bit of a problem keeping pace with the rest of the fleet.
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She'd be left in the dust. Per VOY's "Caretaker", the fastest Federation ships can't even make 1,000c through previously uncharted territory. Galactica and her fleet traveled 13,000 light years to the Ionian Nebula in what, half a season?Batman wrote:Um-I don't recall the Big E-D carrying industrial replicators and the amount of goods she can supply out of personal service replicators is rather limited. Also, depending on how long nBSG stardrive jumps can be, she might have a bit of a problem keeping pace with the rest of the fleet.
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It has been said that the K/F drives of BT can sustain the equivalent of Warp 9, and the FTL of BSG appears to be similar enough, if superior, to the K/F drives in many ways.
But frankly I am not sure enough has been said about the limitations of the BSG FTL to establish what the RTF:s average cruising speed is - though certainly we can try to estimate some max and minimum speeds.
But frankly I am not sure enough has been said about the limitations of the BSG FTL to establish what the RTF:s average cruising speed is - though certainly we can try to estimate some max and minimum speeds.
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The average speed a Starfleet ship without regular support can maintain over 7 decades is 1,000c.Captain Kruger wrote:She'd be left in the dust. Per VOY's "Caretaker", the fastest Federation ships can't even make 1,000c through previously uncharted territory. Galactica and her fleet traveled 13,000 light years to the Ionian Nebula in what, half a season?Batman wrote:Um-I don't recall the Big E-D carrying industrial replicators and the amount of goods she can supply out of personal service replicators is rather limited. Also, depending on how long nBSG stardrive jumps can be, she might have a bit of a problem keeping pace with the rest of the fleet.
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K/F maxes out at 3,000c or thereabouts with Lithium Fusion batteries and 1,500 without. High end Warp speeds if 5 figure c (barring super-advanced aliens messing with the drive).Jonen C wrote:It has been said that the K/F drives of BT can sustain the equivalent of Warp 9, and the FTL of BSG appears to be similar enough, if superior, to the K/F drives in many ways.
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I'd go with a SW Escort Carrier - which is a fairly logical replacement, but far less extensively armed, but hey - it's SW level stuff.
Or if we want to go into obscure EU a Gladiator class SD, which is effectively The Bucket in SW.
Or if we want to go into obscure EU a Gladiator class SD, which is effectively The Bucket in SW.
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Think Batman has it here assuming that the Cylon's ninja-hacking ability can't activate Palpatine's override code. Otherwise its perfect, able to stand up to SW level capital ships, even tear them apart and consume them, can create robotic fighters for defense as well as larger ships(to replace the Colonial ships with stronger faster upgrades to hold all the survivors) even at a point create more World Devastators to lead a campaign of retaking their worlds from the Cylons.Batman wrote:Um-I don't recall the Big E-D carrying industrial replicators and the amount of goods she can supply out of personal service replicators is rather limited. Also, depending on how long nBSG stardrive jumps can be, she might have a bit of a problem keeping pace with the rest of the fleet.
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Voyagers top sprint speed as given in 'The 37's' would get them home in something like 3 months, the problem is they can only maintain it (warp 9.9something) for about 12 hours before the warp drive fails and they need to 'rest'. Not to mention probably burning through the antimatter like a programmer on coffee.Batman wrote:The average speed a Starfleet ship without regular support can maintain over 7 decades is 1,000c.Captain Kruger wrote:She'd be left in the dust. Per VOY's "Caretaker", the fastest Federation ships can't even make 1,000c through previously uncharted territory. Galactica and her fleet traveled 13,000 light years to the Ionian Nebula in what, half a season?Batman wrote:Um-I don't recall the Big E-D carrying industrial replicators and the amount of goods she can supply out of personal service replicators is rather limited. Also, depending on how long nBSG stardrive jumps can be, she might have a bit of a problem keeping pace with the rest of the fleet.
Still, I think Voyager might just be the answer, if they can adapt the Colonial FTL technology, otherwise they won't be able to keep up. She clearly has industrial replicators on board, given how much of the ship they were able to continually repair and rebuild over the seven seasons (not to mention shuttlecraft, torpedoes and the like) or at least they built them at some point after Season 1. They also have a lot of very useful technology that would be of great benefit to the fleet, and more then sufficient firepower to slap down any Cylon attack.
The PROBLEM is that I don't think they can support a fleet of 50,000 or so people for a long time. Galactica for example had to recycle most of the fleets water supply for them. While I'm sure Voyagers engineering teams could, eventually, retrofit the fleet with far more efficient life support systems, that will take TIME, time they just don't have.
I'd like to suggest for a ship we use the Kuun-Lan from Homeworld Cataclysm. Self contained, tough, with some very neat toys...and God help the Cylons when they get into that asteroid field in 'The Hand of God'.
The Cylon relief force finally arrives after the distress call sent out by the garrison...only to find several thousand ships ready to take back the Colonies
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Right sentiment, wrong quoteAnarchist Bunny wrote:Think Batman has it here assuming that the Cylon's ninja-hacking ability can't activate Palpatine's override code. Otherwise its perfect, able to stand up to SW level capital ships, even tear them apart and consume them, can create robotic fighters for defense as well as larger ships(to replace the Colonial ships with stronger faster upgrades to hold all the survivors) even at a point create more World Devastators to lead a campaign of retaking their worlds from the Cylons.Batman wrote:Um-I don't recall the Big E-D carrying industrial replicators and the amount of goods she can supply out of personal service replicators is rather limited. Also, depending on how long nBSG stardrive jumps can be, she might have a bit of a problem keeping pace with the rest of the fleet.
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The Cylons are surely intimately familiar with Colonial computer systems hence their hacking ability.Anarchist Bunny wrote:Think Batman has it here assuming that the Cylon's ninja-hacking ability can't activate Palpatine's override code. Otherwise its perfect, able to stand up to SW level capital ships, even tear them apart and consume them, can create robotic fighters for defense as well as larger ships(to replace the Colonial ships with stronger faster upgrades to hold all the survivors) even at a point create more World Devastators to lead a campaign of retaking their worlds from the Cylons.Batman wrote:Um-I don't recall the Big E-D carrying industrial replicators and the amount of goods she can supply out of personal service replicators is rather limited. Also, depending on how long nBSG stardrive jumps can be, she might have a bit of a problem keeping pace with the rest of the fleet.
I doubt it'd be the same with an SW ship.
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Going with something that isn't as completely out of line with NBSG as SW ships, the Midway from Wing Commander 5. Well defended, good complement of fighters, full research facilities and designed to handle humanitarian missions as well so it probably will do better than Galactica with handling food and water shortages in the fleet. Until its capship missiles run out it will also be a pretty nasty fighter in its own right as well.
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Heh, it would be at once the fleet's principal defender and favorite getaway location. Makes me wonder if the ship wouldn't be better off staying separated most of the time, using the saucer for civilian support while the stardrive section tangles with Cylons.Anguirus wrote:It's certainly not the ideal ship, but I wonder how the Enterprise-D would do. It can manufacture a remarkable amount of equipment and foodstuff from raw materials. Though it's a little fragile, it does have deflector shields and pack a lot of firepower. It wouldn't be able to do much against a mass Cylon Raider attack, though.
The ship does have considerable manufacturing capacity (they're able to "reconstruct" the main reactor, as well as manufacture a whole new transfer pipe leading out of the reactor, and repair a "burned out" deflector dish all on their own), and can even generate new antimatter given time and spare deuterium. Food and water won't be as pressing a concern thanks to the replicators, although the replicators themselves have limits.
The Raiders problem all comes down to how accurate the Enterprise phasers are against them. Depending on how generous you want to be with either side, it could swing either way - with the Enterprise either barely able to hit individual Raiders, or swatting them down by the dozen. Me, I'm a "capital starships rule" kind of guy, so my bias is towards the bigger ship.
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A Planet Class Battlecruiser, preferrably the Metatron or the Michael for theatrical value. The quicker we can plug a cruciform into all those survivors, the better, and a Deathbeam, CPB or Hyperkinetic for every cylon!
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-Gen. George Thomas, Union Army of the Cumberland
-Stuart
"Mix'em up. I'm tired of States' Rights."
-Gen. George Thomas, Union Army of the Cumberland