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Banks Holding Up in Tests, but May Still Need Aid Sign In to E-Mail
By ERIC DASH
Published: April 8, 2009

For the last eight weeks, nearly 200 federal examiners have labored inside some of the nation’s biggest banks to determine how those institutions would hold up if the recession deepened.

What they are discovering may come as a relief to both the financial industry and the public: the banking industry, broadly speaking, seems to be in better shape than many people think, officials involved in the examinations say.

That is the good news. The bad news is that many of the largest American lenders, despite all those bailouts, probably need to be bailed out again, either by private investors or, more likely, the federal government. After receiving many millions, and in some cases, many billions of taxpayer dollars, banks still need more capital, these officials say.

The federal “stress tests” that the examiners are administering are the subject of fierce debate within the banking industry.

Regulators say all 19 banks undergoing the exams will pass them. Indeed, they say this is a test that a bank simply will not fail: if the examiners determine that a bank needs “exceptional assistance,” the government, that is, taxpayers, will provide it.

But the tests, which are expected to be completed by the end of this month, are being conducted out of public view. Federal law prohibits the unauthorized disclosure of the results of any bank examination, including the stress tests. Some investors wonder if the new tests are rigorous enough, given the potential problems lurking inside the banking industry.

Regulators recognize that for the tests to be credible, not all of the banks can be winners. And it is becoming increasingly clear, industry insiders say, that the government will use its findings to press certain banks to sell troubled assets. The hope is that by cleansing their balance sheets, banks will be able to lure private capital, stabilizing the entire industry.

In some cases, however, the investments of existing shareholders could be severely diluted by large sales of new stock.

Some of the banks could also face more stringent restrictions on employee compensation or be ordered to change their boards or management. In extreme instances, the government could wind up taking larger, perhaps even controlling, stakes.

The state of the industry will come into sharper focus next week, when big banks like Citigroup and JPMorgan Chase start reporting first-quarter results. Many analysts predict the reports will show banks are on the mend, with help from low interest rates, fat lending margins, dwindling competition and profits from trading in the financial markets in January and February. In the last six weeks, financial shares have soared on hopes that the worst for the industry is over.

But some analysts say investors’ hopes are misplaced. With the recession, banks are likely to record further large losses on credit cards, corporate loans and real estate.

“Nothing has changed with the fundamentals,” said Meredith A. Whitney, a prominent banking analyst who has been bearish on most financial institutions.


The stress tests are playing a pivotal role in the Obama administration’s sweeping plan to shore up the financial industry. Forcing many banks to raise capital might undermine the still-fragile confidence in the industry. But if only a few banks raise more money, the test might lose credibility with investors.

“Clearly there is a desire to put a seal of good bookkeeping on these banks,” said Lou Crandall, the chief economist at Wrightson ICAP. “Whether they will use this to select a couple of sacrificial lambs is unclear. It’s a big uncertainty hanging over the system right now.”

The tests, led by the Federal Reserve, rely on a series of computer-generated “what-if” projections in the event the economy deteriorates. Those include unemployment rising to 10.3 percent by next year, home prices falling an additional 22 percent this year, and the economy contracting by 3.3 percent this year and staying flat in 2010.

Top regulators say the effort could signal a new approach to supervising the risks that banks take. While federal regulators routinely monitor the financial condition of banks, one goal of the tests is to devise a common set of standards for judging losses across all 19 institutions. Examiners are also considering instruments that are not carried on banks’ balance sheets. They long escaped tough scrutiny.

As part of the tests, the banks analyzed each category of loans they held and compared their results with the “high” and “low” range of government loss estimates. If a bank expected fewer losses than the government, the regulators asked the institution to explain why.

The banks were also asked to project their earnings over the next two years to give the regulators a better sense of how much capital they would have to absorb the coming losses.

Several people involved in the process say there is a wide range of results among the institutions. Those that fall short will have six months to raise capital from private investors; if they are unable to do so, the Treasury Department has said taxpayer money will be available.

Some federal and industry officials say regulators may use the results to prod reluctant banks to sell assets under that program.

Michael Poulos, a director at Oliver Wyman, the consulting firm, said many big investors were burned after investing in financial companies last year and are averse to doing so again. The stress test findings, he said, could “make private capital more eager to come in because they will get a view of the bottom.”

At a recent breakfast with a dozen or so corporate and banking executives in New York, Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner warned he would take a tough stance. Many banks, he suggested, believe the investments and loans on their books are worth far more than they really are, according to a person who attended the meeting.

Mr. Geithner said that was unacceptable. The banks, he said, will have to sell these assets at prices investors are willing to pay, and so must be prepared to take further write-downs.
So let me get this straight, all 19 banks passed the "stress test", but many of them will require more government bailouts. Well gee, it's kinda hard to fail a "stress test" and go under when they're provided with an essentially unlimited flow of cash from the government, so how about doing the stress test again WITHOUT government bailouts in the equation and see how many of them pass. My guess is I could count the banks which pass on one hand.

With regards to the last two paragraphs, when are you going to do something about it Mr. Taxcheat Timmy? You've spent the last year & half actively helping the banks lie about the value of these assets in your previous position at the New York Fed, and now as the Treasury Secretary. When are you going to force all banks to mark all of their assets to the market price? The market says those "assets" are worth pennies on the dollar, when are you going to force the banks to take a few trillion dollars in writedowns to reflect that reality?
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So if I've read this right the banks can't fail because thats not an outcome in the test? Well thats reasuring, ofcourse while fine in the model in the real world even goverment money can run out. Yet no doubt this will be pointed at to inspire confidence in the banking system, whats worse is that people will buy it. We'll do anything to slap a stamp of approval on this, even if it means beleiving the bull. It's how we got here in the first place after all.

The whole thing is just another wonderful example of how goverment is so good at criticising the banks using poor judgement and then removing all sense of risk with tax payers money thus removing any risk averse behaviour they may have had.
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Eldritch Economist wrote:So if I've read this right the banks can't fail because thats not an outcome in the test?
Pretty much. It's like having a test out of 100, and we'll spot you 60 points for writing down your name.

Just like Wells Fargo supposedly turning a $3 billion profit...by borrowing $25 billion from the government and using Enron style accounting.
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At what point does this pass into the realm of institutionalized fraud by the Treasury. The main goal I glean from this is to increase confidence in the banks with a bogus "stress" test to try and delay the cliff we are currently racing towards.

If the Treasury continues to work in cahoots with these banks, when do they become liable for the people investing in these banks due to this bogus stress test?
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Aren't there any international trade laws broken by this? If there ever was a blatant governement help at work to influence the world market, than that. There were trillions of dollars pumped into the Us bank system, and nearly nothing into european banks(by european states) in comparison. Still, those "eurobanks" are at least as stable as the US ones, which would have collapsed without.

I wonder how this would have turned out if the crash started in the EU and we were shoving money into banker's throaths. I believe there would be lots of pressure from the Us against that subsidies...
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Another glimpse of the "stress test" methodology

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Stress Test Scores ‘C’ If Name Ends in ‘itigroup’:
Mark Gilbert
Commentary by Mark Gilbert

April 23 (Bloomberg) -- Tomorrow, the U.S. authorities are scheduled to disclose the methodology for the stress tests that will gauge the creditworthiness of the 19 largest U.S. banks. Below are a few examples of the kinds of searching, penetrating questions the Treasury Department should ask. Some sections have point scores. Others will be judged more subjectively.

(1) Award your institution five points for every ex-Goldman Sachs Group Inc. manager on your board. Double that tally if former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan ever took part in a private conference call for your favorite clients. Lose all points if the head of your executive compensation committee has a worse golf handicap than your chief executive officer.

(2) This week, an anonymously sourced blog entry said the government’s stress test would show that 16 of the 19 banks in the study are technically insolvent, with none of the 16 able to survive a disruption of their cash flow or additional defaults on their loans. On hearing this, your first reaction was:

(a) Please, please, please let me be in the threesome. I’ve worked like a dog selling assets and raising capital.

(b) Please, please, please let me be in the 16. I’m tired and I’d like to spend more time with my money.

(c) Only 16? Surely some mistake . . .

(3) Your accounts are audited by:

(a) Pricewaterhouse Coopers LLP.

(b) Ernst & Young LLP.

(c) Deloitte & Touche LLP.

(d) Moe, Larry and Curly in Rockland County, New York.

(4) A mob gathers at the doors of your institution. Your instinctive reaction is that:

(a) Barbarian rioters, led by Naomi Klein, are at the gates demanding the end of capitalism.

(b) Your customers have finally lost patience with counting their losses and are demanding your head on a plate.

(c) All those derivatives specialists you fired last month have finally found their collective spines and want to reclaim the portion of your previous bonuses that their spreadsheet- shuffling was responsible for generating.

(5) Gather your board members around the executive table, and make them bare their wrists. Lose 2 points for every wristwatch with a retail price of more than $5,000. Lose 50 points for any board member who owns the Breitling Emergency model that claims to summon the international rescue services at the push of a button. Lose 100 points if he has ever accidentally pressed the button and had to pay for the helicopter.

(6) Gain 10 points if you, the current CEO, have been asked to be or already are:

(a) a member of the U.S. Treasury.

(b) an employee of the Federal Reserve.

(c) Bo’s pooper-scooper.

(7) Your current company vehicle is:

(a) a Cessna Citation X jet.

(b) a Maybach limousine.

(c) a Toyota Prius

(d) a Segway scooter.

(e) a rusty bicycle.

(8) Which best describes your ability to sell bonds on the international capital markets without the benefit of a U.S. government guarantee?

(a) Bill Gross backs up the truck and says “fill ‘er up.”

(b) Bill Gross laughs so hard that he snorts coffee out of his nose and down the front of his shirt.

(9) Timothy Geithner says the “vast majority” of the nation’s banks have more capital than they need. Your response is:

(a) Which nation is he talking about? ‘Cos it certainly isn’t the U.S. of A.

(b) What is he smoking and where can I get some?

(c) You laugh so hard you snort coffee out of your nose.

(10) Your institution is positioned to remain solvent in a world economy resembling that of:

(a) the past decade.

(b) Japan.

(c) Cuba.

(d) Zimbabwe.

(11) Lose 10 points if your CEO plays bridge. Lose another 10 points if he’s up to tournament standard.

(12) Lose five points for each of the following:

(a) The words “never sleeps” feature in your slogan.

(b) There’s an umbrella in your logo.

(c) The name of your institution begins with “C” and ends with “itigroup.”

(Mark Gilbert is a Bloomberg News columnist. The opinions expressed are his own.)

To contact the reporter on this story: Mark Gilbert in London at magilbert@bloomberg.net
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