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BBC News wrote: A French warship has captured 11 pirates off the coast of Kenya, amid clamour for the international community to deal with the problem of piracy.

The gang was captured by a warship from an EU piracy patrol, French officials said, hours after a failed attack on a US ship.

Other pirates released a Greek ship and its 24 crew held since mid-March.

News of the incidents came as the UN special envoy for Somalia said the attacks threatened international peace.

The latest raid involved pirates firing rocket-propelled grenades and automatic weapons at a US-flagged cargo ship, the Liberty Sun, which was carrying food aid for Africa.

'Mother ship'

The French defence ministry said the warship Nivose captured the pirates about 550 miles (900km) east of the Kenyan port of Mombasa.

It had detected a "mother ship", or command vessel, on Tuesday, and observed it overnight before launching an assault early on Wednesday, the ministry said.


An attack on a Liberian-registered vessel was also thwarted, the ministry added.

The Nivose is part of the European Union's operation to protect shipping in the Gulf of Aden.

Meanwhile, a Greek-owned merchant vessel taken on 19 March was released by pirates, but there were no details of whether a ransom was paid.

The St Vincent-flagged Titan, with its 24 crew members all well, was now heading to its original destination of South Korea, the Greek maritime ministry said.

Despite several anti-piracy patrols, there has been an increase in raids in the past few days, with four ships seized and others attacked.

The United Nations special envoy for Somalia, Ahmedou Ould-Abdallah, said the attacks risked international security.

In a BBC interview, he also called for help for poor Somalis themselves, many of whom were being exploited by the pirates.

"What is important is to show determination as the international naval presence is doing," he said. "You will see in the next few weeks a sharp decrease in piracy.

"They already are going further south and at the same time we should do something inland, trying to provide more jobs for these unfortunate youngsters who are exploited by the financiers who are backing piracy."

'Revenge attack'

Somalia's Minister for International Co-operation, Abdlrahman Warsame, told the BBC's Focus on Africa programme: "The problem on the Somali piracy… always lies on the land.

"If you can solve the problem on the land - and that means support the current national unity government - you'll easily stop the piracy."

Pirates have vowed to avenge the deaths of those killed in recent rescue operations by US and French forces.

After the attack on Liberty Sun, one pirate, Abdi Garad, told AFP news agency they had intended to destroy the ship and its crew.

He said: "The aim of this attack was totally different. We were not after a ransom.

"We also assigned a team with special equipment to chase and destroy any ship flying the American flag in retaliation for the brutal killing of our friends."

Three pirates were killed during the rescue of Captain Richard Phillips of the Maersk Alabama, who had been held captive for five days after being taken hostage from his ship.

Two more Somali pirates were killed in a French operation to free five hostages from a captured yacht.

Marines managed to free four hostages but the boat's owner, Florent Lemacon, was killed.

A post-mortem examination will be carried out on Mr Lemacon later this week to try to determine whether he was killed by the pirates or by a stray French bullet.

Three other pirates detained in that operation have arrived in France for questioning. The trio were in custody at a police facility in the north-western French town of Rennes.

It is understood the pirates, who are aged between 20 and 25 years, have spent the day being questioned by French investigators.

At least six other pirates are already in French custody after being captured by French marines last year.

In recent months Britain, the US, and the European Union have signed memorandums of understanding with Nairobi that Kenya will act as a kind of international tribunal for pirate crimes.

Several Somali pirates turned over by the US and Germany are already undergoing legal action there but, so far, Paris prefers to try captured pirates in French courts.
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After the attack on Liberty Sun, one pirate, Abdi Garad, told AFP news agency they had intended to destroy the ship and its crew.

He said: "The aim of this attack was totally different. We were not after a ransom.

"We also assigned a team with special equipment to chase and destroy any ship flying the American flag in retaliation for the brutal killing of our friends."
As I understand it, negotiations were still underway when the SEALS rescued the captain of the Maersk Alabama, so presumably one of the reasons the pirates are so angry is that they think the US acted in bad faith.
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After the attack on Liberty Sun, one pirate, Abdi Garad, told AFP news agency they had intended to destroy the ship and its crew.

He said: "The aim of this attack was totally different. We were not after a ransom.

"We also assigned a team with special equipment to chase and destroy any ship flying the American flag in retaliation for the brutal killing of our friends."
As I understand it, negotiations were still underway when the SEALS rescued the captain of the Maersk Alabama, so presumably one of the reasons the pirates are so angry is that they think the US acted in bad faith.
Must be nice to think they have the moral high ground even though they're pirates.
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It wasn’t just negotiations, the USN was actually towing them to coastal waters at the time, where it was agreed negotiations would continue. Had the pirates not accepted the tow the rescue wouldn’t have been possible, since it kept the pirates right off the destroyers stern, giving the SEALs hours and hours to wait for a good shoot with the target right in front of them.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Must be nice to think they have the moral high ground even though they're pirates.
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I'm not arguing their corner, it's just that they're going on about "brutal killings" and vowing revenge and trying to give the impression that it's no longer "just business". Though I guess that's more likely to be intimidating language that a genuine grievance, since I would assume that these pirates aren't organised on a country-wide level and don't feel personal grief when a bunch of dudes unaffiliated with them get killed.
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It's interesting that the article seems to say the French knew they had detected pirates, but waited to actually witness evidence before moving in.
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Stark wrote:It's interesting that the article seems to say the French knew they had detected pirates, but waited to actually witness evidence before moving in.
Remember that Indian frigate that destroyed a "Somalian pirate" ship that turned out to be just a Thai fishing boat ? The French probably wants to avoid doing something similar.
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Oh yeah, my comment was really directed at the attitude that everyone should shoot first and ask questions later since everyone has magical pirate IFF transcievers. They proceeded carefully, but depending on the circumstances (which I don't think are clear from the article) the pirates could actually have done something bad while the French were waiting for them to expose themselves.
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I really doubt that this could have happened, since the french had them in firing range at all times.
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Clearly we'd be able to deal with this problem if only our government would shell out for copper plating on our ships!

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Seriously though, I think that there is an old anti-pirating stratagy that would work well here, that of the Q-ship. Lets take a big ol' supply ship or whatever these pirates like to hit, and load it full of marines, mount some hidden guns, and so forth. Bait the pirates in, then wipe the floor with them. Rinse and repeat, possibly with a different ship (and as time goes on, more and more tempting targets)
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open_sketchbook wrote:Seriously though, I think that there is an old anti-pirating stratagy that would work well here, that of the Q-ship. Lets take a big ol' supply ship or whatever these pirates like to hit, and load it full of marines, mount some hidden guns, and so forth. Bait the pirates in, then wipe the floor with them. Rinse and repeat, possibly with a different ship (and as time goes on, more and more tempting targets)
Not only would that be more expensive than paying the ransom, but it wouldn't discourage the pirates much. A small chance of encountering a Q ship versus a much better chance for gobs of money is a risk I'd expect a pirate to be willing to take. Especially in a place as bad off as Somalia.
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