Texas tries Secessionism 2.0: Seeks to null Fed. laws.

[D.Turtle]

Do you think Texas would be better off as an independent nation or as part of the United States of America?

US: 61
Independent nation: 35

Democrats: US 82, Ind 15
Republicans: US 48, Ind 48
Independents: US 55, Ind 40

Do you approve or disapprove of Governor Rick Perry's suggestion that Texas may need to leave the United States?

Approve: 37
Disapprove: 58

Democrats: Approve 16, Disapprove 80
Republicans: Approve 51, Disapprove 44
Independents: Approve 43, Disapprove 50

Emphasis mine.

Ironic to think that those are probably the same people who are constantly waving around flags, calling anyone not a right-winger anti-american, etc.

[LMSx]

We're currently rolling at just under 100 days of President Obama and a Democratic Congress, and the idea of secession is already a tossup among Republicans! Democrats threatening to move to Canada if Bush was re-elected pales in comparison to taking your state with you.

Somehow Republicans survived from 1992-1994 with the Democrat trifecta, not to mention Democrats from 2002-2006. suck it up you traitors.

[Patrick Degan]

Time to start calling the GOP the Party of Jefferson Davis. That should stick in a few craws.

[The Spartan]

Ironic to think that those are probably the same people who are constantly waving around flags, calling anyone not a right-winger anti-american, etc.

Sadly, there is no probably about it. The majority of them are one and the same.

[ArmorPierce]

The secession of Texas is LESS laughable than the secession talk in Vermont was in 2007
http://www.vermontrepublic.org/
(Wow there is more than one person who thought taht would work??)

I saw a comemnt on another site that Texas doesn't have a secession clause to withdraw from the nation but they could seperate into four states?
http://www.thevictoriaadvocate.com/webl ... to-secede/

Anyway how many of the points of contention listed happened under the current administration as opposed to udner the adminsitrtaion of the guy living among them that they rabidly supported.

I thought it was 5 states. Anyway that would give Texas 6 to 8 more senators. Texas will never do it however. Texans like being 1 big state.

I read the Texas constitution and in no part does it mention that. What it does mention was a part that was about when Texas first joined the United States and parts of it will be used to be split into four other states.

[Darth Yoshi]

Time to start calling the GOP the Party of Jefferson Davis. That should stick in a few craws.

I know you're being facetious here, but Davis was a Democrat. Besides, wouldn't these people view association with him as a good thing?

[Lord of the Abyss]

Time to start calling the GOP the Party of Jefferson Davis. That should stick in a few craws.

I know you're being facetious here, but Davis was a Democrat.

I expect that's the joke.

[Prannon]

Time to start calling the GOP the Party of Jefferson Davis. That should stick in a few craws.

I know you're being facetious here, but Davis was a Democrat. Besides, wouldn't these people view association with him as a good thing?

That is the joke, but the relationship between the Civil War era Democratic Party and the current GOP isn't that far of a stretch. Consider that the Democratic Party of the time was the more conservative, religious, pro-farming, low-tariff, pro-elite party. The Republican party was full of industrialists, abolitionists, and unionists who believed in a stronger federal government (insomuch that it could abolish slavery and maintain the integrity of the union).

Now think about what the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are today. They have kind of switched roles with a few tweeks here and there, particularly after FDR and the Great Depression. The Republican party is still something of a pro-business party, but they have co-opted the religious sentiments of the Deep South while the Democratic party has adopted the liberal sentiments of the north.

So to call the GOP the party of Jefferson Davis actually isn't too inaccurate, since there is a direct geographical and political relationship between the two. It's an awful shame to see the Party of Lincoln, TR, and Eisenhower so demeaned.

[Patrick Degan]

Time to start calling the GOP the Party of Jefferson Davis. That should stick in a few craws.

I know you're being facetious here, but Davis was a Democrat.

I expect that's the joke.

To be more accurate, Davis was Conservative. More to the point, Southern Conservative.

[Surlethe]

Have 30 sec. Have these chuckkklefucks considered what Texas seceding would do to the Republican Party? They lose 34 automatic electoral votes and seats in Congress.

[Tiriol]

Have 30 sec. Have these chuckkklefucks considered what Texas seceding would do to the Republican Party? They lose 34 automatic electoral votes and seats in Congress.

I daresay that they haven't considered that. If I'm not too much wrong here, these fellowes are just like those people who threaten to cut off all communications with their friends, families etc. for any and all possible slights, real or imagined, no matter how small the case would be - but then never proceed to do so, because it would effectively mean that there are no longer people whom they could boss around or depend on. It would be hilarious if the answer would be "Go ahead, secceed; we'll either enforce Federal rule there and declare martial law in all of Texas and arrest all supporters of seccession on the grounds of high treason, or we will let you go and watch how you implode and not lift even a finger to help you, instead just putting a trade blockade on you like with Cuba."

[The Yosemite Bear]

you know a bad comment on their point of view, is that earlier in another thread about lolbertairan, post inaugeration hi-jinks, was an ad. An ad asking for donations for legal action to put the REAL winner of the election into the whitehouse..... (Mike you need to put some quality control on that ad software....)

[Terralthra]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCLz7XQOIOQ

Since I apparently can not use [flash]

[The Yosemite Bear]

you know the one that also keeps showing up when we talk about Sucessionists, and nutjobs is "Free Newt", or "Free Michelle Malken" makes me wonder have they actually been arrrested for all their crazy talk?

[Dominus Atheos]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCLz7XQOIOQ

Since I apparently can not use [flash]

Use the [youtube] tag.

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCLz7XQOIOQ[/youtube]

[Vympel]

"Libertarian Magic Dust!" - fucking hilarious. Best youtube I've seen all week, and that's saying something.

[Slacker]

"Don't let Oklahoma hit your ass on the way out."

Win.
I still think it's hilarious that some Texans-Mr. Paul in particular, seemingly, seem to think that secession is a Constitutional question and not a 'we beat your ass for trying once already, don't get cute.' question.

[Falkenhayn]

Have 30 sec. Have these chuckkklefucks considered what Texas seceding would do to the Republican Party? They lose 34 automatic electoral votes and seats in Congress.

The fast count is 34 electoral votes, 2 Senators and 8 Congressmen.

[The Original Nex]

Have 30 sec. Have these chuckkklefucks considered what Texas seceding would do to the Republican Party? They lose 34 automatic electoral votes and seats in Congress.

The fast count is 34 electoral votes, 2 Senators and 8 Congressmen.

Perhaps I'm missing something behind your meaning, but Texas has 32 Reps in the House, 20 of whom are Republicans.

[Vendetta]

Perhaps I'm missing something behind your meaning, but Texas has 32 Reps in the House, 20 of whom are Republicans.

Hence they would lose 8 more than the Democrats.

[The Original Nex]

Perhaps I'm missing something behind your meaning, but Texas has 32 Reps in the House, 20 of whom are Republicans.

Hence they would lose 8 more than the Democrats.

Ah the net loss.

[Patrick Degan]

Hmm... with the swine flu outbreak, let's test how eager Texans are for secession now. Let's see how much they want to be free from the EEEEVUL FEDRAL GUBMINT and the help they can get from the CDC.

[SirNitram]

Hmm... with the swine flu outbreak, let's test how eager Texans are for secession now. Let's see how much they want to be free from the EEEEVUL FEDRAL GUBMINT and the help they can get from the CDC.

Perry is making noises about the CDC stock of Tamiflu being moved closer to Texas.

Yea, this lasted precisely until they were reminded of the benefits.

[Knife]

Meh, hurricanes or flu epidemics. I wish some Feds would make some loud points about this to slam home to stupidity of these guys.

[Patrick Degan]

Hmm... with the swine flu outbreak, let's test how eager Texans are for secession now. Let's see how much they want to be free from the EEEEVUL FEDRAL GUBMINT and the help they can get from the CDC.

Perry is making noises about the CDC stock of Tamiflu being moved closer to Texas.

Yea, this lasted precisely until they were reminded of the benefits.

Secession Mk. 1: "Died of a theory" (Jefferson Davis, 1865)

Secession Mk. 2: "Died of the flu" (the bitch Reality, 2009)