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Preview of the new Posleen War book: Eye of the Storm

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Just found out Ringo's got another Posleen war book coming out, and it's a doozy. Read samples Here!

So much happens in these sample chapters that I'm spoilerfying the rest of this post:
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So, first off it's got Mike O'Neal kicking ass and taking names on the far side of the spiral arm. Smashing a posleen base, afterwards he discovers... humans. From earth. Taken thirty-thousand years ago by the Darheel for genetic modification and use as guards.

Atlantis was real, a GalFed base, and the Darheel destroyed it.

Next shocker: Thanks to an old 'Bounty Prize' law, Mike O'Neal's net worth is currently equivalent to 15% of all the Darheel clans COMBINED. He has the power to bankrupt them all at once, and many earthers are also owed significant amounts of cash.

Unfortunately, the Darheel can't allow either of these secrets to get out, so they order the Fleet to nuke the entirety of Fleet Strike into oblivion, destroying every remaining ACS trooper. Mike is arrested, and is put on a showtrial on the moon, where he amuses himself by telling his 'attorneys' what he knows so that they must be killed as well to protect the secrets. Just for laughs, at one point he goads a Darheel into Lintanai and watches him pass out.

At his sentencing, Mike appeals and demands the Darheel pay up, but is stunned and dragged off. The Bane Sidhe (including Tommy Sunday) break him out of his transport and disappear him. Shortly after that, dozens of transcripts of the trial show up all over the solar system, and Fleet Strike pretty much mutinies. They sieze control of the moon and arrest all fleet personnel.

Meanwhile, SOMETHING worse than the Posleen that scares the Himmit shitless has woken up and is eating Darheel core worlds like popcorn. So the Darheel are in a panic, and we get this:
"General, you must get your forces under control," the Tir said. "This new race . . . Daga Nine was a core world. They threaten Gratoola! The capitol of the Confederation! This cannot be borne. You must defend . . ."

"I must?" Wesley said, mildly. "I must? I must do what? We humans must save your sorry asses again? Where's your God damned Fleet you put in your pocket and held like a souvenir? Half of First Fleet appears to be gone. All of Third. Fifth, who we will discuss in a moment, was apparently heading into the area after getting word there was a ruckus. But we haven't heard from Admiral Suntoro, who we will also discuss in a moment, for, what? Three months? I somehow doubt that he is gallivanting around the galaxy whooping it up after DESTROYING MY FUCKING CORPS!"

"You will not speak to me in that tone, General," the Tir said, dangerously.

"Or what?" Wesley snapped. "Or you'll have Admiral Hartono drop a rock on me from orbit? Listen you chicken-shit weasel, you were the one that ordered the 11th destroyed and killed over twenty thousand of my troops! You were the one that ordered me to hang Michael O'Neal. You were the one that screwed up the Fleet to the point that half the ships on the books don't really exist and the ones that are left absolutely suck! You fucking Darhel are the ones that have consistently screwed us humans to keep us under your thumbs and now you want us to pull your questionable rocks out of the fire again? Well SCREW YOU."

"But this race," the Darhel said in a tone of desperation. "It has taken not only colonies and Indowy worlds. It threatens the most important worlds in the Federation. It threatens Earth itself! Have you no care for the threat to humanity? To the damage this will do to the Galactic economy?"

"The only threat to humanity I see is you," Wesley snapped, pointing his finger at the screen. "I see you, you alien prick! You extra-terrestrial monstrosity. You lawyerous, slanderous, villainous asshole! You want to point fingers, I'm pointing them right at you, you cancerous boil on the face of the Galaxy. After you've fucked the situation up beyond redemption, what in the FUCK do you expect ME to do about it? I can't even control my own troops because of you, you, fucking YOU!"

"I see," the Tir said, sitting back and interlacing his taloned fingers. "Then what must we do?"

"Well," Wesley said, sighing, "first and foremost we have to find someone to lead this charade that the troops actually will trust. Sure as shit isn't me. Go figure. I can only think of one guy. And right now, I don't see him being amenable to reason. Even if we can find him."
And that's just the first six chapters! Oh... things are gonna get interesting my friends... very interesting.
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Well, I for one am not in love here. Spoiler
Why bomb the ACS from orbit when you canonically control every aspect of their computer systems? Why not just execute a 'kill suit' command that uses the environmental systems on the damn things to off their users? The Darhel are supposed to be penny pinchers, they would know a good asset when they see one. If each of those suits is worth as much as Ringo says they are, they just wrote off the annual output of a couple planets. Why even bother bringing O'Neil back for a trial anyways? Say that the Polseen cracked your computer network, uploaded a virus, and bury the entire 11th corps with honors. After all, no inheritance under galactic law means that solves both their problems. Obviously, the Darhel are too stupid to run their empire.

The smashing of said Polseen base also defies my sense of disbelief, and then pisses on it. First, O'neil's bodyguards did not pin him to the ground and sit on him when he decides to lead a charge. He's a major general or therabouts now, right? His attention is better spent on other things than this junior officer bullshit. I don't care if he's some 'great warrior' because that is behavior unbecoming of his rank. Then there is the descriptions of technology that just can't work that way. Like the pointless '32 gigaton cluster munition' that does shit-all to ACS suits. Or the 'dial a yield antimatter grenade' that has about half a megaton of power being used as an anti-personnel weapon against unarmored Polseen. What. The. Hell.

Also, the fraking nanite-jedi can go sit on a pole and swivel for all I care. Utterly unapealing, utterly lame.

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Open rebellion and Darhel desperation! Looks juicy, and finally something military to fill in the Cally O'Neal/Bane Sidhe storyline.
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I am most disappointed in the portrayal of the SS thus far; from Watch on the Rhine it appeared Germany survived as a unified nation, but now there was some kind of "Great Split"? More of "teh Euros are teh stupid"? And one must love the gratuitous shot at the forces that remained in Scandinavia . . .

Mühlenkampf's characterisation felt drastically off, as compared to how Kratman wrote him in Watch, also.
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Well, I will avoid rampant fan hate, but why does every story have to involve Atlantis? There are other lost civilization myths, ones that haven't been repeated endlessly.
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Hey it gets worse, the next one after this is another collaboration with Kratman.

Also, it doesn't improve much in terms of plausibility or sanity once you get past the preview chapters either.
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15% of the Darheel Clans combined wealth? :shock: [Admiral Ackbar] Our brains can't withstand Mary Sueism of that magnitude![/Admiral Ackbar]

I have to say the series is continuing my expectations of being increasingly bad as it goes along.

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I'm of two minds. On one hand the stuff is obviously ridiculous - the political nonsense, the americawank, and the contrivances. But its also peculiarly amusing becuase its bizarre. I probably won't buy it but I'll borrow it form the library or something.
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The fact that people read this drek almost astonishes me. All of what Chewie posted was pure 'rar rar human are the best' nonsense which got old three hundred years before my birth. Also complaining about how a character doesn't fit the characterisation set by Thomas 'blararghfargh muslims' Kratman is in its own way kind of hilarious.
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Preview chapters ?

Isn't it like half the book ?

Its like this is a different universe with some similar names, and its as shit as the worst of its predecessors stuff.
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It seems like Ringo is trying to give his fans everything they want and nothing that they need. My biggest WTF momen?
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A giant spaceship. With boobs. And.... Quantum.
I'm sure I'll read it, but after so many books with humanity getting their asses kicked, I'm not sure how much I buy this whole "We'll do whatever you say" mentality from the Darhel.
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white_rabbit wrote:Preview chapters ?

Isn't it like half the book ?

Its like this is a different universe with some similar names, and its as shit as the worst of its predecessors stuff.
Swelling book size is one of the recognizable signs of an author so successful that editorial control vanishes for fear of offending the cash cow. Quality is declining at that point and considering how shitty it was to begin with that's pretty damning.
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Kodiak wrote:It seems like Ringo is trying to give his fans everything they want and nothing that they need. My biggest WTF momen?
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A giant spaceship. With boobs. And.... Quantum.
I'm sure I'll read it, but after so many books with humanity getting their asses kicked, I'm not sure how much I buy this whole "We'll do whatever you say" mentality from the Darhel.
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Samuel wrote:
I speak for Shroom here when I ask- does it bleed?
Since previous ships did, I'm loathe to concede that it probably does.
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With the bloat going on in this series, it's becoming rather more clear to me that Ringo's not primarily responsible for the Looking Glass series, instead it's mostly Taylor's baby. It's really...I don't know, startling, the difference. The Looking Glass series is absolutely popcorn scifi, but it's not bukkake like most of Ringo's later stuff.
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I liked that they explained WHY the Darheel got fucked over by the Aldenata. They destroyed their homeworld, so the Aldenata said 'We'll get you a new planet if you promise to refrain from violence forever'. Then they made sure they stuck to it.
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:I liked that they explained WHY the Darheel got fucked over by the Aldenata. They destroyed their homeworld, so the Aldenata said 'We'll get you a new planet if you promise to refrain from violence forever'. Then they made sure they stuck to it.
How was it made ice-pick proof?
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Samuel wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:I liked that they explained WHY the Darheel got fucked over by the Aldenata. They destroyed their homeworld, so the Aldenata said 'We'll get you a new planet if you promise to refrain from violence forever'. Then they made sure they stuck to it.
How was it made ice-pick proof?
...what?
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Ford Prefect wrote:The fact that people read this drek almost astonishes me. All of what Chewie posted was pure 'rar rar human are the best' nonsense which got old three hundred years before my birth. Also complaining about how a character doesn't fit the characterisation set by Thomas 'blararghfargh muslims' Kratman is in its own way kind of hilarious.
I couldn't even finish reading it. It's actually quite horribly written. I don't even feel like I'm bragging when I say that I could write better than that.
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Lusankya wrote:I couldn't even finish reading it. It's actually quite horribly written. I don't even feel like I'm bragging when I say that I could write better than that.
I've read a handful of Baen published books and I was very much unimpressed by the quality of writing. Mutineer's Moon wasn't terrible, but it wasn't all that great, either.
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:
Samuel wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:I liked that they explained WHY the Darheel got fucked over by the Aldenata. They destroyed their homeworld, so the Aldenata said 'We'll get you a new planet if you promise to refrain from violence forever'. Then they made sure they stuck to it.
How was it made ice-pick proof?
...what?
I think he means, how did they make it impossible to undo. How you can make a change in a species fundamental biology, then leave them alone for ten thousand years and not have them figure out how it can be UNDONE.
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Imperial Overlord wrote:Darth Hoth, incase you some how missed it, liberals are evil, cowardly, spineless traitors. Since Europeans are, in general, somewhat to the left of American right wingers, they must be weak girly-men who can't defend themselves. Unless they're right wing SS he-men.
Oh, I am well aware of Ringo's feelings towards much anyone who is not in uniform. But Watch on the Rhine was written by Kratman, and thus I expected more of it. It makes me sad that Ringo ruined that storyline as well, it was about the only one in that universe that was not complete drivel.
Ford Prefect wrote:The fact that people read this drek almost astonishes me. All of what Chewie posted was pure 'rar rar human are the best' nonsense which got old three hundred years before my birth.
What is wrong with that? A good idea can still be good if it is done right, even if it is old.
Also complaining about how a character doesn't fit the characterisation set by Thomas 'blararghfargh muslims' Kratman is in its own way kind of hilarious.
I suspect the criticism comes from someone who has not actually read any of Kratman's novels.

Kratman is no writer of great classics or deep philosophy. Also, he knows and acknowledges this. His style and characterisations are very blunt and straightforward (and, on some points, rather weak); instead, he concentrates on delivering a fast-paced plot while also exploring the military and various political/moral dilemmas. Yes, he usually does have an agenda, but even if one dislikes it the ride on the way is usually worth it. As far as action and military scifi goes, he is among the better in the field. Of course, his Posleen books suffer from being set in a generally retarded universe controlled by that borderline illiterate, Ringo.
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:
Samuel wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:I liked that they explained WHY the Darheel got fucked over by the Aldenata. They destroyed their homeworld, so the Aldenata said 'We'll get you a new planet if you promise to refrain from violence forever'. Then they made sure they stuck to it.
How was it made ice-pick proof?
...what?
How do thye make it impossible for a man with an ice cream scooper and alot of time to undo? Or have the Darheel never heard of lobotomies? After all, if it is tied to their adrenal glands, just remove the suckers and give them artificial injections.
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Hoth, Kratman's style consists of character assassinating and strawmanning anything to the left of the American far right. I've actually bothered to finish (not pay for) Watch on the Rhine just to see how bad it was. I've read good military sci-fi. Kratman's not worthy of licking David Drake's boots.
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Imperial Overlord wrote:Hoth, Kratman's style consists of character assassinating and strawmanning anything to the left of the American far right. I've actually bothered to finish (not pay for) Watch on the Rhine just to see how bad it was. I've read good military sci-fi. Kratman's not worthy of licking David Drake's boots.
I wouldn't say Watch on the Rhine was that insane- I bothered to take a look at the conclusion of Yellow Eyes and that was totally insane.
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