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Texas police shake down drivers, lawsuit claims

TENAHA, Texas (CNN) -- Roderick Daniels was traveling through East Texas in October 2007 when, he says, he was the victim of a highway robbery.

The Tennessee man says he was ordered to pull his car over and surrender his jewelry and $8,500 in cash that he had with him to buy a new car.

But Daniels couldn't go to the police to report the incident.

The men who stopped him were the police.

Daniels was stopped on U.S. Highway 59 outside Tenaha, near the Louisiana state line. Police said he was driving 37 mph in a 35 mph zone. They hauled him off to jail and threatened him with money-laundering charges -- but offered to release him if he signed papers forfeiting his property.

"I actually thought this was a joke," Daniels told CNN.

But he signed.

"To be honest, I was five, six hundred miles from home," he said. "I was petrified." Watch CNN's Gary Tuchman try to question officials »

Now Daniels and other motorists who have been stopped by Tenaha police are part of a lawsuit seeking to end what plaintiff's lawyer David Guillory calls a systematic fleecing of drivers passing through the town of about 1,000.

"I believe it is a shakedown. I believe it's a piracy operation," Guillory said.

George Bowers, Tenaha's longtime mayor, says his police follow the law. And through her lawyers, Shelby County District Attorney Lynda Russell denied any impropriety.

Texas law allows police to confiscate drug money and other personal property they believe are used in the commission of a crime. If no charges are filed or the person is acquitted, the property has to be returned. But Guillory's lawsuit states that Tenaha and surrounding Shelby County don't bother to return much of what they confiscate.

Jennifer Boatright and Ron Henderson said they agreed to forfeit their property after Russell threatened to have their children taken away.

Like Daniels, the couple says they were carrying a large amount of cash --- about $6,000 -- to buy a car. When they were stopped in Tenaha in 2007, Boatright said, Russell came to the Tenaha police station to berate her and threaten to separate the family.

"I said, 'If it's the money you want, you can take it, if that's what it takes to keep my children with me and not separate them from us. Take the money,' " she said.

The document Henderson signed, which bears Russell's signature, states that in exchange for forfeiting the cash, "no criminal charges shall be filed ... and our children shall not be turned over" to the state's child protective services agency.

Maryland resident Amanee Busbee said she also was threatened with losing custody of her child after being stopped in Tenaha with her fiancé and his business partner. They were headed to Houston with $50,000 to complete the purchase of a restaurant, she said.

"The police officer would say things to me like, 'Your son is going to child protective services because you are not saying what we need to hear,' " Busbee said.

Guillory, who practices in nearby Nacogdoches, Texas, estimates authorities in Tenaha seized $3 million between 2006 and 2008, and in about 150 cases -- virtually all of which involved African-American or Latino motorists -- the seizures were improper.

"They are disproportionately going after racial minorities," he said. "My take on the matter is that the police in Tenaha, Texas, were picking on and preying on people that were least likely to fight back."

Daniels told CNN that one of the officers who stopped him tried on some of his jewelry in front of him.

"They asked me, 'What you are doing with this ring on?' I said I had bought that ring. I paid good money for that ring," Daniels said. "He took the ring off my finger and put it on his finger and told me how did it look. He put on my jewelry."

Texas law states that the proceeds of any seizures can be used only for "official purposes" of district attorney offices and "for law-enforcement purposes" by police departments. According to public records obtained by CNN using open-records laws, an account funded by property forfeitures in Russell's office included $524 for a popcorn machine, $195 for candy for a poultry festival, and $400 for catering.

In addition, Russell donated money to the local chamber of commerce and a youth baseball league. A local Baptist church received two checks totaling $6,000.

And one check for $10,000 went to Barry Washington, a Tenaha police officer whose name has come up in several complaints by stopped motorists. The money was paid for "investigative costs," the records state.

Washington would not comment for this report but has denied all allegations in his answer to Guillory's lawsuit.

"This is under litigation. This is a lawsuit," he told CNN.

Russell refused requests for interviews at her office and at a fundraiser for a volunteer fire department in a nearby town, where she also sang. But in a written statement, her lawyers said she "has denied and continues to deny all substantive allegations set forth."

Russell "has used and continues to use prosecutorial discretion ... and is in compliance with Texas law, the Texas constitution, and the United States Constitution," the statement said.

Bowers, who has been Tenaha's mayor for 54 years, is also named in the lawsuit. But he said his employees "will follow the law."

"We try to hire the very best, best-trained, and we keep them up to date on the training," he said.

The attention paid to Tenaha has led to an effort by Texas lawmakers to tighten the state's forfeiture laws. A bill sponsored by state Sen. John Whitmire, D-Houston, would bar authorities from using the kind of waivers Daniels, Henderson and Busbee were told to sign.

"To have law enforcement and the district attorney essentially be crooks, in my judgment, should infuriate and does infuriate everyone," Whitmire said. His bill has passed the Senate, where he is the longest-serving member, and is currently before the House of Representatives.

Busbee, Boatright and Henderson were able to reclaim their property after hiring lawyers. But Daniels is still out his $8,500.

"To this day, I don't understand why they took my belongings off me," he said.
When I first heard the story, I though, "Hmm...Taneha is in East Texas which has a string of Sundown Towns in it. I wonder if the motorists were primarily black?"

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TENAHA, Texas— You can drive into this dusty fleck of a town near the Texas-Louisiana border if you're African-American, but you might not be able to drive out of it—at least not with your car, your cash, your jewelry or other valuables.
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Oh God, did you read the comments on that story at the Chicago Tribune?
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Stories like this are why I have zero sympathy for police anymore. If a cop dies in the line of duty, too fucking bad for him.
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Jadeite wrote:Stories like this are why I have zero sympathy for police anymore. If a cop dies in the line of duty, too fucking bad for him.
You are a fucking moron. Sure, there are stories of police brutality everywhere, but there are also good cops everywhere putting their lives on the line. You can't disband the goddamn police, so if good people don't become cops, the assholes reign. Plus, thinking East Texas policemen potentially being thugs means that somebody in Tacoma or Jersey City is also a thug who deserves to die is so fucking stupid I can't understand it.
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Jadeite wrote:Stories like this are why I have zero sympathy for police anymore. If a cop dies in the line of duty, too fucking bad for him.
You could replace "police" with "white people" and the logic would be similar. But you wouldn't like to hear that would you?
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You are a fucking moron. Sure, there are stories of police brutality everywhere, but there are also good cops everywhere putting their lives on the line. You can't disband the goddamn police, so if good people don't become cops, the assholes reign. Plus, thinking East Texas policemen potentially being thugs means that somebody in Tacoma or Jersey City is also a thug who deserves to die is so fucking stupid I can't understand it.
Police seem to be generally three types of people: moralistic assholes who don't care whether or not the laws they enforce are right or just, thugs who want the power and toys, and people who actually want to protect and serve. That last type seems to be pretty goddamn rare.

Police are generally a reactionary presence in society that undermine racial relations, abuse and frighten the underclass, and increasingly see themselves as enforcers and soldiers rather than public servants.
You could replace "police" with "white people" and the logic would be similar. But you wouldn't like to hear that would you?
It'd be true. White people basically have ruined the world and continue to exploit it. Even those that don't want to oppress other nations are still forced to participate in the process by simply having no alternative choices available.
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Police seem to be generally three types of people: moralistic assholes who don't care whether or not the laws they enforce are right or just, thugs who want the power and toys, and people who actually want to protect and serve. That last type seems to be pretty goddamn rare.

Police are generally a reactionary presence in society that undermine racial relations, abuse and frighten the underclass, and increasingly see themselves as enforcers and soldiers rather than public servants.
Are you going to prove any of that or are you just going to spout shit? Of course, keep up the the generalizations, they must be true amirte?
It'd be true. White people basically have ruined the world and continue to exploit it. Even those that don't want to oppress other nations are still forced to participate in the process by simply having no alternative choices available.
So by saying it'd be true, you are basically saying that you have zero sympathy for any white person who dies? Becasue if not, thats seriously what you are implying. Also are you seriously using the past where a lot of people back then were arseholes, black and white to justify what you just said?

Besides your little soapbox rant, do you have anything to back this up?
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Interesting to know, Jadeite. So I take it that if someone were to, for example, track you down and give you a good hard ass-whuppin', you would decline to report it to the cops. Very useful information.
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Jadeite wrote:Stories like this are why I have zero sympathy for police anymore. If a cop dies in the line of duty, too fucking bad for him.
You could replace "police" with "white people" and the logic would be similar. But you wouldn't like to hear that would you?
I actually wouldn't mind to hear that. Logic may not be 100% correct but I can understand how they got to that thinking.
Bluewolf wrote:[So by saying it'd be true, you are basically saying that you have zero sympathy for any white person who dies? Becasue if not, thats seriously what you are implying. Also are you seriously using the past where a lot of people back then were arseholes, black and white to justify what you just said?

Besides your little soapbox rant, do you have anything to back this up?
He didn't imply that.

People are still arseholes in more modern times and now, there are still people around that were alive during the civil rights movement.

Further, even people that did not participate in any of it from the past benefit from it now. For example, Some guy that you worked for grandfather raped the resources of the land. You were able to get the job because of the education that you were able to get only because your father got a good paying job doing that took advantage of minorities or due to reduced competition.
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Coyote wrote:Interesting to know, Jadeite. So I take it that if someone were to, for example, track you down and give you a good hard ass-whuppin', you would decline to report it to the cops. Very useful information.
Is this the rah rah internet tough guy act? The last sentence leads me to believe so.
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I doubt it. I think he is just trying to show the flaws in Jadeite's logic and the last line is actually just sarcasm.
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Actually I should restate my position. I would mind because they are probably very ignorant but I'd understand where they're coming from.
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ArmorPierce wrote:
Coyote wrote:Interesting to know, Jadeite. So I take it that if someone were to, for example, track you down and give you a good hard ass-whuppin', you would decline to report it to the cops. Very useful information.
Is this the rah rah internet tough guy act? The last sentence leads me to believe so.
As Bluewolf said, I am pointing Jadeite to the folly of his beliefs. Although were I to chance across Jadeite someday, and needed some pocket change, and just happened to have Louisville Slugger on me at the time, who knows what would happen? But clearly, planning illegal activity on the board is against the rules, so this remains in the realm of the theoretical.
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Jadeite wrote:Police are generally a reactionary presence in society that undermine racial relations, abuse and frighten the underclass, and increasingly see themselves as enforcers and soldiers rather than public servants.
You could replace "police" with "white people" and the logic would be similar. But you wouldn't like to hear that would you?
It'd be true. White people basically have ruined the world and continue to exploit it. Even those that don't want to oppress other nations are still forced to participate in the process by simply having no alternative choices available.
Yes, it is true. We Jews white people are evil and oppressing the world. Do you realize exactly how racist it is to judge a billion complete strangers just by their skin color?
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Wait, someone takes individuals in a large hetrogenous group acting a certain way that fits into their preconceptions as condemning the entire population?

Say it ain't so - that would mean Jadeite is a fucking retard!
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Jadeite wrote:That last type seems to be pretty goddamn rare.
Or maybe, just maybe people don't write stories about the hundreds of thousands of police that do their job and do it well. You fucking idiot.
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Jadeite wrote:That last type seems to be pretty goddamn rare.
Or maybe, just maybe people don't write stories about the hundreds of thousands of police that do their job and do it well. You fucking idiot.
You know how people always like to trot out the line, "It's just a few bad apples," whenever some story about police abuse comes up? They always seem to forget the second half of that phrase.
People here are afraid of the police," said Terry Willis, vice president of the Homer branch of the National Assn. for the Advancement of Colored People. "They harass black people, they stop people for no reason and rough them up without charging them with anything."

That is how it should be, responded Homer Police Chief Russell Mills, who noted the high rates of gun and drug arrests in the neighborhood.

"If I see three or four young black men walking down the street, I have to stop them and check their names," said Mills, who is white. "I want them to be afraid every time they see the police that they might get arrested.
Oh, and don't forget that community relations between Oakland and its PD are so bad, that civilians taunted the response force that showed up after three of their officers died in a traffic stop. I wonder why?

Then while not police, but still part of the justice system, don't forget those two judges in Pennsylvania that were accepting payments from a private jail in return for sentencing youth offenders to it. Hell, I'm not even going to get started on Maricopa county and Arpaio... The US justice system is a broken shambling wreck full of corruption and abuse of power, that does nothing to actually solve the problem of crime and instead merely uses it to perpetuate its own policies. Any corruption in an organization with the power to end or ruin lives is absolutely intolerable.
As Bluewolf said, I am pointing Jadeite to the folly of his beliefs. Although were I to chance across Jadeite someday, and needed some pocket change, and just happened to have Louisville Slugger on me at the time, who knows what would happen? But clearly, planning illegal activity on the board is against the rules, so this remains in the realm of the theoretical.
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Well I'm convinced; Jadeite is way more liberal than me, and he knows about OTHER times individuals in a large population acted in ways that agree with his preconceptions.

How simplistic statements about murdering policement are related to attitudes toward judicial corruption is beyond me.
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Stark wrote:Well I'm convinced; Jadeite is way more liberal than me, and he knows about OTHER times individuals in a large population acted in ways that agree with his preconceptions.

How simplistic statements about murdering policement are related to attitudes toward judicial corruption is beyond me.
Reactionary defenders of a corrupt system ITT.

Well, you see, when an organization that's meant to protect the public starts oppressing it instead, it no longer deserves any sympathy when something bad happens to those who help perpetuate its existence and policies.
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Quote me defending any kind of system please.

Oh wait, that was just a worthless segue into your OMG DOWN WITH THE SYSTEM rant. Gotcha. Remember kids - every policeman helps 'perpetuate' judicial corruption.
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Jadeite wrote:You know how people always like to trot out the line, "It's just a few bad apples," whenever some story about police abuse comes up? They always seem to forget the second half of that phrase.
Wow, small town southern US cops are possibly racist! Amazing!

Anyway, I hardly think the actions of two cops in a small southern town (Homers population is slightly less than 4000) are indicative of the actions of police officers across the US.
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I have so many one liners going through my head while thinking about the statements being made by Jadeite. But we frown upon that sort of thing right now. In essence Jadeite is judging a group as a whole by the actions of a few and using that to justify hatred of these people. I especially like the part where he says that cops who die in the line of duty (you know, the ones actually trying to protect people for the most part) do not get his pity. Wouldn't the corrupt cops be the ones least likely to put themselves into dangerous situations? Your position is poorly thought out and derived entirely from emotion. There is no logic behind it.
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Jadeite wrote:
Stark wrote:Well I'm convinced; Jadeite is way more liberal than me, and he knows about OTHER times individuals in a large population acted in ways that agree with his preconceptions.

How simplistic statements about murdering policement are related to attitudes toward judicial corruption is beyond me.
Reactionary defenders of a corrupt system ITT.

Well, you see, when an organization that's meant to protect the public starts oppressing it instead, it no longer deserves any sympathy when something bad happens to those who help perpetuate its existence and policies.
Hey, asshole, are you going to actually demonstrate that "good cops" are in the extreme minority, or are you just going to continue to copy paste horseshit from sources that have an economic incentive to report on the bad ones and little to no incentive to report the good?
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Jadeite wrote:Stories like this are why I have zero sympathy for police anymore. If a cop dies in the line of duty, too fucking bad for him.
Cop killer turns out to be a same day rapist too.

Yeah too fucking bad for these four officers huh? They sure had it coming didn't they? :finger:
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