SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VIII

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SiegeTank wrote:Oh, I know :D. It fits with the Old D being a rather paranoid place.

The entire country suffers from severe cognitive dissonance. We have no problem accusing people of being warmongering aggressors while denying that we could remotely be perceived the same way. :D
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And the President of Cascadia pounds the gavel. 8)
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OPERATION: GOERING QUOTE is go! :D
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Ha, you enjoy being a bastard far too much, Matt.
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Ryan, Ryan, Ryan, there is protocol for such matters y'know. And you're not even talking to Lonestar IC, it's his Foreign Minister.
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Steve wrote:Ryan, Ryan, Ryan, there is protocol for such matters y'know.
Just remember, I did it purely to stir shit up politically, though. :D

Oh, by the way, any SD.netters in the room can see that I'm Ryan and not Gero. Nobody else will notice, though.
And you're not even talking to Lonestar IC, it's his Foreign Minister
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Sometime you can retro an edit back to allowing you to avoid saying something stupid. This time I'm not letting you. So your speech is preserved for posterity. :P
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Haw, haw haw haw. Fun to see you all in damage control mode, esteemed colleagues, he-he, but I doubt even if the MESS started painting the faces of it's representatives and it's carriers pink and drawing peace symbols on them it would do much to your collapsed public image...

Trying to invoke a defunct pact for cheap pokes at the supreme local powers in Frequesque just smells so... desperate. :lol:

P.S. Let it be known that I still heavily support slowing down time. This would make the play easier for everyone and let us linger in the year 2017 which is awesome. If there are no votes against the slowdown in the coming weeks, we should instane one on the Middle of May which would be change of year.
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Pezook, are the Vineyards still part of FASTA?
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Karmic Knight wrote:Pezook, are the Vineyards still part of FASTA?
Yep. You even had an astronaut up there already, and several more participating in the space station programs.

Probably. I never got around to making crew lists for those :D
Karmic Knight wrote: I agree with Stas.
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We should linger in 2018 so that me and Shroom can have fun with FASTA lunar campers :D
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Being fair to Lonestar's fella, this isn't really convincing evidence of anything... beyond OD military utilitarianism of course - cannibalize the best cadres of your annihilated enemy for your military, also get invaluable experience in biowarfare countermeasures since the sheppos were preparing for biodeath from day one. Heh,the Red Army took in a hefty number of former Tsarist Officers - were they not "gloating" over the destruction of the Tsarist Russia? :lol:
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Stas Bush wrote:Being fair to Lonestar's fella, this isn't really convincing evidence of anything... beyond OD military utilitarianism of course - cannibalize the best cadres of your annihilated enemy for your military, also get invaluable experience in biowarfare countermeasures since the sheppos were preparing for biodeath from day one. Heh,the Red Army took in a hefty number of former Tsarist Officers - were they not "gloating" over the destruction of the Tsarist Russia? :lol:
Allow me to rephrase, have we ever actually gloated over the destruction of Shepistan?
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You know, for some reason I doubt the SLA will just fall in line after you announce Al Sheppard The Barking Mad will be their future leader :P
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PeZook wrote:You know, for some reason I doubt the SLA will just fall in line after you announce Al Sheppard The Barking Mad will be their future leader :P
Even funnier that the Sirnothians opposed the Shepistan attack on Astaria and actually provided some support for the Astarian's retaliatory attack.
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PeZook wrote:You know, for some reason I doubt the SLA will just fall in line after you announce Al Sheppard The Barking Mad will be their future leader :P

Don't damage my calm.
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PeZook wrote:Damn! If you people are gonna slow down time, I have to get to the lunar landing STAT! :D

EDIT: Also, Wilkens, hurry up with that exchange guy. I want to finalize the landing crew already!

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Daed1 Q1 2016
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Either 5,6, or 7 will be the MSA lunar landing. 1 and 2 were systems test, 3 and 4 were orbital rendevous and then TLI plus return, 5 will be the first practice with the Lander (we could land if we are adventursome) and then either 6 or 7 will be the atual landing and excursion. PeZook I've tenatively scheduled your guy to go on 6 because that is when we plan to land and bumping up to 5 would be easier than bumping down from 5 to 6.

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You guys are landing after only one test flight of the fully assembled lander? And not even on LEO, but you skip straight to lunar orbit tests?

That's rather risky, IMHO.
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PeZook wrote:You guys are landing after only one test flight of the fully assembled lander? And not even on LEO, but you skip straight to lunar orbit tests?

That's rather risky, IMHO.
It is, and I ran a series of dice rolls with the total and major failure rates up to 5% to reflect that.
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Well, mine gave me a failure in Selene 6, which means another LM test flight is inevitable. That means Selene 7 in Q4 2016, and Selene 8 in Q1 2017, with the landing on Selene 9.

Unless we accept the risk an upgrade 7 to a lunar orbital test...

And then we can have a LITERAL race to the Moon! IN SPACE! :P

A question, though: does the MSA release their launch scheules publically? If you don't it's no biggie, we'll just have Lev steal them, but I have to ask ;)

EDIT: BTW, one of these days I'm totally gonna have to put together a novaterran Moon mission in Orbiter :D
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Stas Bush wrote:P.S. Let it be known that I still heavily support slowing down time. This would make the play easier for everyone and let us linger in the year 2017 which is awesome. If there are no votes against the slowdown in the coming weeks, we should instane one on the Middle of May which would be change of year.
That's why I said the 17th. It's close enough to the 15th, which would otherwise be the new year, and starts the 7 day cycle on a Sunday, which is rather convenient and easy to remember.
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And now I have done my part to make things more interesting. :D
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I seem to be a bit late to the party. :D
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Well... if it's at the point where we are now all aiming for dickitude, then there is no chance at salvaging the ol' trainwreck.
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Coyote wrote:Well... if it's at the point where we are now all aiming for dickitude, then there is no chance at salvaging the ol' trainwreck.
Indeed. Heck I called Lonestar's man on the carpet for it in private.

I was actually going to do something like Steve's banging of the gavel last night, but I was too tired to write it up. And of course when I got here this morning it had already moved on.
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You guys had plenty of time to answer the CATO proposal, instead some of you chose to play the dickery game. Well excuse me for being a dick right back. :D :wink:
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