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I was going more for the colors - the afternoon sun hit that building and it was really a nice contrast to the sea of beige or gray skyscrapers.DEATH wrote:I like the left shot, though it could be better (crop or stand on a park becnh).
It's more the woman sticking her tongue out. Bokeh is not so great since I had my 1.4X teleconverter on.Second shot has..nice bokeh?
See PM.Phongn, want to meet up in Chicago? I'll be there around the 23d-25th
Yeah, I see what you wanted, but the black newsstand really clutters the frame up, which is a pity.phongn wrote:I was going more for the colors - the afternoon sun hit that building and it was really a nice contrast to the sea of beige or gray skyscrapers.DEATH wrote:I like the left shot, though it could be better (crop or stand on a park becnh).
Not enough zoom.It's more the woman sticking her tongue out. Bokeh is not so great since I had my 1.4X teleconverter on.Second shot has..nice bokeh?
Your pm has a different date mentionedSee PM.Phongn, want to meet up in Chicago? I'll be there around the 23d-25th
There is a bit of mystery to that - and frankly, I have no clue. I didn't even know she was sticking her tongue out at the time I took the picture. People's expressions are such transient things ...Bounty wrote:The tongue shot is nice, but what was she sticking her tongue out at? right now you have something happening on the right side of the photo with no real sense of what it is that is happening, if that makes any sense.
Oh - wait, that black stuff at the bottom? That happens to be the L, not a newsstand!DEATH wrote:Yeah, I see what you wanted, but the black newsstand really clutters the frame up, which is a pity.
) before I leave for the USA:
What can someone find in a average store that isn't utter crap? Film type? Kodak colour?Bounty wrote: I don't think you'll find much in brick-and-mortar stores that isn't a disposable. If battery life is a concern, consider a camera that predates batteries
Recommend me a decent film camera, and a good film type for landscape (colour) shots.Bounty wrote:I don't understand the question.
Where is that thing? There's a picture of it in my physics textbook but it doesn't say where it is.phongn wrote:Capacitor Tree
Right Here (Fermilab)aerius wrote:Where is that thing? There's a picture of it in my physics textbook but it doesn't say where it is.phongn wrote:Capacitor Tree
In an average store? Nothing, from what I've seen.* Digital is the hot new thing, so digital cameras are on the forefront of camera marketing. Film is "old hat" unless one is interested in photography as a craft, so film and film camera equipment are marketed to a smaller crowd that doesn't buy their equipment at Wal-Mart or Staples or Radio Shack in the first place.DEATH wrote:What can someone find in a average store that isn't utter crap? Film type? Kodak colour?
Track down a Shanghai Shenhao or a Calumet XM, get a box of basically any 4x5 Fujichrome ISO-100 from B&H, and rock out on large format - there's nothing better. At the very least go medium format; get a heavy tripod and something in 6x6, 6x7, or 6x9. Landscape photography doesn't need the particular advantages of 35mm (speed, ease of use, lots for frames on a roll for rapid shooting), but it does need image quality and the capability for making large prints, and that's much easier to come by in a bigger format.DEATH wrote:Recommend me a decent film camera, and a good film type for landscape (colour) shots.
There's also Adorama and Calumet in NYC. For when he goes to Chicago, there's Calumet and Helix --- and a charming little shop called Central Camera.Simplicius wrote:You're going to NYC though, yes? Visit B&H Photo at 34th Street & Ninth Ave. in West Manhattan. They are a serious-business camera store and you will have plenty to choose from if you are looking to buy something.
It might be a bit overkill sending him from a DSLR to a view camera. It might be a bit much even sending him to Medium Format right now (as lovely as that is). I'm actually considering a 645N at some point, myself (mostly because my arms ache at the very thought of lugging around a 6x7 SLR)Track down a Shanghai Shenhao or a Calumet XM, get a box of basically any 4x5 Fujichrome ISO-100 from B&H, and rock out on large format - there's nothing better. At the very least go medium format; get a heavy tripod and something in 6x6, 6x7, or 6x9. Landscape photography doesn't need the particular advantages of 35mm (speed, ease of use, lots for frames on a roll for rapid shooting), but it does need image quality and the capability for making large prints, and that's much easier to come by in a bigger format.
Certainly if he went to large format he'd have to overcome his prejudice against exposing manually. Probably for medium too, if he were to get an older TLR or press camera to save money. But I figure there's no better way to learn how to use a camera than having no choice in the matter. I've also been dissatisfied enough with my 35mm landscapes that I can't recommend it for that purpose in good faith, though I've seen it done well by people who have a more sophisticated background in photography than I do.phongn wrote:It might be a bit overkill sending him from a DSLR to a view camera. It might be a bit much even sending him to Medium Format right now (as lovely as that is).
Yeah, for what I've read the 67 is a good camera but a real bear, and shutter vibration can be a problem to say nothing of mirror slap if you don't use the lock-up. But I found 6x7 to be manageable in rangefinder form, entirely hand-held - I've got to write up a review of my Konica, but first I have to rescue the photos from my scanner's interpretation of their exposure and color balance.I'm actually considering a 645N at some point, myself (mostly because my arms ache at the very thought of lugging around a 6x7 SLR)
I've been meaning to play with it - I have some 100UC and Reala 100 on 35mm here to play with when my Canonet comes in.Simplicius wrote:Actually, as far as film goes, that new Ektar 100 came out in 120 last month. Sample photos look pretty good and there's a small rebate through July for some promotion Kodak's running, so I'm particularly itching to get my hands on some. It'll have to be in the next round of purchases, I suppose.
I do like some automation so I was looking at rangefinders and they're still rather expensive-lookingSimplicius wrote:Yeah, for what I've read the 67 is a good camera but a real bear, and shutter vibration can be a problem to say nothing of mirror slap if you don't use the lock-up. But I found 6x7 to be manageable in rangefinder form, entirely hand-held - I've got to write up a review of my Konica, but first I have to rescue the photos from my scanner's interpretation of their exposure and color balance.
I like Reala 100 on medium format so far, though I must admit it's the only color 120 film I've used to date. If you want to see what it looks like through a bare-bones camera with a 1/30-1/50 sec. fixed shutter speed, there are the photos in my Hawkeye review thread.phongn wrote:I've been meaning to play with it - I have some 100UC and Reala 100 on 35mm here to play with when my Canonet comes in.
Too bad about the automation, since the newer cameras tend to be more pricey. The Konica Omegas and the Mamiya Universal are of older design (with production ran up into the early 1980s) but are rock-solid cameras, and the full kit is pretty cheap when they come up on auction sites - as low as $150 or so in some cases, but generally less than $500 from what I've read.I do like some automation so I was looking at rangefinders and they're still rather expensive-looking
I'm sort of considering less automation now (on a MF system SLR, ditching the AE prism) and using my 400D as a meter. Of course, that means dragging more crap around. And then there's still the choice of what format to use ...Simplicius wrote:Too bad about the automation, since the newer cameras tend to be more pricey. The Konica Omegas and the Mamiya Universal are of older design (with production ran up into the early 1980s) but are rock-solid cameras, and the full kit is pretty cheap when they come up on auction sites - as low as $150 or so in some cases, but generally less than $500 from what I've read.
