Only because they are at it again.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-02-06 04:46pm

Yep...though I have learned to call many a person an ignoramus and such not...and avoid the whole Mod bit.

Ah those lovable mods over there.

Also if you enter any sort of war with them...they can call ya a fool, but doing the same get axed

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-02-06 07:38pm

Nice to see Tannhauser and Angelblade...still not making a refute, but instead going 'You First!"

And the whole Tower go boom...funny when I freeze frame I can see it there....who would've thunk that.

Also DFA blows off because they don't like seeing stats....that was a fun one.

Khemri · Post by **Khemri** » 2003-02-07 11:05am

Oh come on, why do you people even bother? This is Gamefaqs, perhaps the greatest concentration of stupidity on the Internet ever.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-02-07 11:10am

Hmmm...love of pain

?

And unfortunatly it's just one of the larger deposits(more of immaturity than actually unintelligent...that I leave for a variety of other sites)

Khemri · Post by **Khemri** » 2003-02-07 11:34am

Ghost Rider wrote:Hmmm...love of pain ?

And unfortunatly it's just one of the larger deposits(more of immaturity than actually unintelligent...that I leave for a variety of other sites)

It's still an exercise in futility. These are the same people that troll their own X-Box, GameCube, and Playstation 2 boards. These are the same people that think 300 megatons will blow up the Earth. These are the same people that think Turbolasers are actual Lasers. I'd just let them contine to act like idiots until the thread reaches 500 posts and is auto closed.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-02-07 11:37am

Usually do...and then hit them again when another moron brings it up.

It's sort of like any ignorant troll...you keep hitting them with logic, and hope they either learn or become so stupidly rabid that what left of their brain melts.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-02-07 11:41am

I TRIED I really tried to read through those posts but MY GOD there are some dumbasses in the world. It seems that everytime people are "educated" on these matters another batch crop up like weeds. Anyway I just was tickled pink when Starcrossed was brought up as a reasonable way that the conflict would proceed.

Khemri · Post by **Khemri** » 2003-02-07 11:44am

[/quote]From: Olvar | Posted: 2/7/2003 8:23:52 AM | Message Detail
How boring of you shootfighter 55,you should have gone long ago.
Sorry pal but you don't know how to argue,

Here here. Sorry Shootfighter, but you shoot yourself in the foot with the obscenely long posts you make, as I can't be bothered reading them. You should learn to pick your points a little more selectively.[/quote]

Oh boy ahaha that's funny. Let me Translate for those of you who don't speak "Moron-Ese"

"I'm to big of a moron to pay attention to your post, so I will ignore all your points and claim victory hoping to win."

You know, sometimes I wonder if the idiots that mail Mike actually reproduce from Miosis. They all present the same arguments and debate tactics.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-02-07 11:47am

Pretty much...but I am glad a few think of Starcrossed highly.

It shows some glimmer of something.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-02-07 12:54pm

I'm launching an attack. BTW, they want the exact excerpt about Holonet transmissions being blocked by shields. Where exactly is that?

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-02-07 04:03pm

Darth Servo wrote:I'm launching an attack. BTW, they want the exact excerpt about Holonet transmissions being blocked by shields. Where exactly is that?

Heir to the Empire, it's the second Noghri attack, the one in the crater, Han, Wedge and Leia are discussing why the imperial attack.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-02-07 04:07pm

Well you riled the biggest of the dorks there Servo...bravo

Now to penetrate his WoI...is going to take a bit

Jim Raynor · Post by **Jim Raynor** » 2003-02-07 05:12pm

Now Angelblade's bitching about the meaning of the "iso" prefix. These Trekkies just love screwing around with semantics.

Messon · Post by **Messon** » 2003-02-07 05:49pm

However, think back to TOS, the episode where two redshirts are handling a lttle anti-matter, explicitly saying it easily had more power than nuclear devices of the past.

He's using what two redshirts said as supporting evidence...

Jim Raynor · Post by **Jim Raynor** » 2003-02-07 06:53pm

Holy crap, did you guys see the Shuttle vs. X-wing thread? Angelblade and Zeloran don't think X-wings have shields, according to the movies. I'm guessing that they think that unless a ship is shown with Trekkie bubbleshields, it's completely unshielded.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-02-07 10:16pm

Jim, how do you put up with such stupidity? One of the latest idiots is trying the old claim about how we can tell how massive the TESB asteroids are.

ali-sama · Post by **ali-sama** » 2003-02-07 11:22pm

Jim Raynor wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:Just remember as much as you want to no swearing or obvious trolling.

Seriously Raynor is trying but against the flood we can use help.
The Gamefaqs.com moderators are seriously messed up. Directly calling someone an idiot will get you modded (that's what happened to me), but calling Wong a stupid fanboy who spends all his time wanking off to Natalie Portman won't.

Dude . she si hot. *drool* HOT HOT HoT

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-02-08 12:38am

Jim Raynor wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:Just remember as much as you want to no swearing or obvious trolling.

Seriously Raynor is trying but against the flood we can use help.
The Gamefaqs.com moderators are seriously messed up. Directly calling someone an idiot will get you modded (that's what happened to me), but calling Wong a stupid fanboy who spends all his time wanking off to Natalie Portman won't.

Hey, at least he doesn't jack off to Captain Janeway like those Trekkies...

Anyway, it's boards like these where you wouldn't expect a SW vs ST debate where all the rabid Trekkies hang out. They either never heard of SD.net, and if they have, probably odn't accept it.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-02-08 12:41am

You got the second one.

A few have basically gone "Mike is biased!!!" and have links to Darkstar's site.

Seriously it's because of their whole condemnation of Mike that I ventured here(if these morons hated it so much I had to see why

)

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-02-08 12:56am

Ghost Rider wrote:You got the second one.

A few have basically gone "Mike is biased!!!" and have links to Darkstar's site.

That's pretty bad. Although it doesn't seem like it could help, point them to my rebuttal of Anderson's work.

Looks like you guys have dug up the hornet's nest. Be careful.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-02-08 01:20am

This is no hornet's nest...more like a batch of Wall of Ignorance...and yes I believe the next time I step around there I will post up your rebuttal MoO(since a few actually believe RSA is some Trek God)

The two loudest and dumbest(angelblade and SSJG1000) both have the collective IQ of a dead squirrel.

How do I come this conclusion...after the first two times(long before I ever saw Wong's site or did any calcs) they both literally went canon only.

So I brought up the Asteroid issue....nothing, they then retorted with ISD couldn't take an asteriod

Too bad I was asking that said ISD can destroy them in one hit while the Enterprise-D couldn't with it's PT payload...to which basically got screams of Die Warsie...etc.

As time went on...they got more and more irrational...someone pointed out two sites(Wong's and Daystrom)...and that's how I got here.

Funniest part is they still are trying to think a Borg Cube(and with the various calcs now out there and available with easy reach) is going to compete with 200GT turbolasers.

Ah well...maybe tomorrow I'll see if the morons are still screaming at Jim's post(saddest part is the complete rejection of Mike Five minute's because it uses the Tech manual...but then again gives offical calcs on a 20 year precursor transport of the ISD)

I guess I should dig around find some of your guys stuff on this...and see canon based(episode by episode) vs the Slave-1 and see how they would react.

Brian Young · Post by **Brian Young** » 2003-02-08 11:12am

I've always been amused by the fanatical Trekkie claiming that the Federation wins by default because "lasers can't even penetrate our navigational shields."
Let's suppose for a moment that the unnaturally powerful weapons we refer to as turbolasers in Star Wars are simple lasers as we have today, produced from a keychain laser pointer, despite the fact that I wrote entire webpages that show effects/characteristics that are different from those. Let's also assume that Federation "navigational shields" are totally immune to lasers of any power level. Let's also ignore the time that a Borg cube carved the Enterprise "like a roast" with "some type of laser" in "QWho."

Okay, with all of that assumed, how does this give the Federation an instant victory?
*Turbolasers are only one type of weapon used in Star Wars. Slave1 fired missiles and mines in AOTC. The Rebels fired an ion cannon in TESB. Luke Skywalker fired torpedoes in ANH. Leia offered to destroy Jabba's palace with a "thermal detonator." Missiles were fired from the Millennium Falcon in ROTJ. Missiles were seen hitting ISDs in ROTJ. Missiles were fired from A-Wings in ROTJ.
*Given the destructive capabilities of weapons used, shielding technology used by the Empire is many orders of magnitude more resilient than that used by the Federation. So, we know that Imperial ships could ignore Federation weapons too, torpedoes and all. Imperial ships could bombard Federation planets until the last, ignoring the Federation's attempts to stop them.
*With planetary shielding, Federation ships can't return the favor.

So, even if their absurd claim were true, it does not equal victory for the Trek side.

In fact, this is comparable to saying that because Earthforce ships have interceptors that can protect them from incoming pulse weapons, they must be able to beat the Centauri, because they use pulse weapons a lot.

It is also comparable to saying that because the gunstar prototype ("The Last Starfighter") can "withstand several hits," it can withstand several phaser blasts.
Or several photon torpedoes.

Jim Raynor · Post by **Jim Raynor** » 2003-02-08 01:35pm

My God, just when you think you've made a crack in their Wall of Ignorance, they patch it up stronger than before. I thought I effectively ended the stupid Canon debate there, but now Zeloran's come back with this stupid "EU is an alternate universe" argument. I wouldn't be surprised if they started saying ST ships are immune to lasers again.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-02-08 06:38pm

Jim Raynor wrote:My God, just when you think you've made a crack in their Wall of Ignorance, they patch it up stronger than before. I thought I effectively ended the stupid Canon debate there, but now Zeloran's come back with this stupid "EU is an alternate universe" argument. I wouldn't be surprised if they started saying ST ships are immune to lasers again.

I just posted six messages in rapid succession. Wish there weren't so many limits over there.

We really need to unite a coordinated attack.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-02-08 06:40pm

Brian Young wrote:I've always been amused by the fanatical Trekkie claiming that the Federation wins by default because "lasers can't even penetrate our navigational shields."

Brian, you're intelligent. These Trektards are not. They don't know how to think logically at all. They don't know the meaning of "Hasty Generalization."