Am I the only one that finds the delivery method for the little speech sort of ridiculous? I mean… a giant flat screen on the belly of the ship? Really? I guess high jacking the airwaves to broadcast their message might be interpreted the wrong way, but still… a giant flat screen on the belly of the ship?
The ships themselves look nice though. I’m glad they ditched the flying saucer shape. The new uniforms of the Visitors look better two, but that might just be that I prefer blue to red when it comes to clothing. Of course, in the interest of full disclosure of shallowness, any uniform that lets Laura Vandervoort show as much cleavage as this onedoes is going to be OK in my book
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I just hope they put a little bit more thought into the aliens motives. In the original they basically came to steal our water and steal us for food because their world had died. The truth of the matter is any species capable of interstellar flight should be able to harvest some commits or grow their own food in a variety of methods. Unless of course they want to just go with the RAR EVIL ALIENS as they did in independence day.
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Crossroads Inc. wrote:I just hope they put a little bit more thought into the aliens motives. In the original they basically came to steal our water and steal us for food because their world had died. The truth of the matter is any species capable of interstellar flight should be able to harvest some commits or grow their own food in a variety of methods. Unless of course they want to just go with the RAR EVIL ALIENS as they did in independence day.
They also wanted us as troops "for battles with the Leaders enemy".
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Shit man! V scarred the crap out of me when I was a kid. The scene where... Spoiler
Robin gives birth to her second baby, and it is a creepy little lizard and then it slithers its tongue at the camera! EWWW!!
I think I may have even had nightmares about that!
I never watched it as I got older though because I didn't want to spoil something which I thought was awesome as a kid, with my adult eyes and mind. I hope they do a good job with this.
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.
Hit it. Blank Yellow (NSFW)
Havok wrote:
I never watched it as I got older though because I didn't want to spoil something which I thought was awesome as a kid, with my adult eyes and mind. I hope they do a good job with this.
I suggest you stick to that then. I dragged out the old VHS tapes a couple years ago, it didn't age very well.
I'll check this out though, Morena Baccarin is a decent actress so this might turn out OK.
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Why are they doing this? Why are the uniforms blue? I liked the old red outfits. Since they are almost certainly going to change most of the story, why not just go the last couple of steps and sever all ties with the original inspiration? I never have understood why Hollywood insists on "remakes" that have almost nothing to do with the original. Moore could have made just a couple more changes and called NBSG an original story. It would have worked just as well, and then we might still get a continuation of the original.
Havok wrote:Shit man! V scarred the crap out of me when I was a kid. The scene where... Spoiler
Robin gives birth to her second baby, and it is a creepy little lizard and then it slithers its tongue at the camera! EWWW!!
I think I may have even had nightmares about that!
I developed a sort of neurosis from that scene. I found myself fearing that if I turned my head while lying in bed I would see the baby lizard. Of course I knew that it was impossible, but then I thought that I could have a hallucination and see it anyway, so I spent months keeping my eyes screwed shut out of terror at seeing the monster on my bed. I was more afraid of seeing it there than of its actual existence.
I don't think you have to hide spoilers for a program broadcast a quarter century ago (oh hell I feel old now).
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Johonebesus wrote:I don't think you have to hide spoilers for a program broadcast a quarter century ago (oh hell I feel old now).
Well like you said.... 25 years ago. There may be a lot of people that never saw it, and I wouldn't want to ruin on of the show's best cliffhangers.
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.
Hit it. Blank Yellow (NSFW)
Havok wrote:
I never watched it as I got older though because I didn't want to spoil something which I thought was awesome as a kid, with my adult eyes and mind. I hope they do a good job with this.
I suggest you stick to that then. I dragged out the old VHS tapes a couple years ago, it didn't age very well.
Not if you take it seriously, but it has significant camp value. I have rarely had as much fun as when I watched V again a few years ago...
Johonebesus wrote:Why are they doing this? Why are the uniforms blue? I liked the old red outfits. Since they are almost certainly going to change most of the story, why not just go the last couple of steps and sever all ties with the original inspiration? I never have understood why Hollywood insists on "remakes" that have almost nothing to do with the original.
Because otherwise they cannot capitalise on it being a well-known trademark.
I actually saw the original miniseries before I saw my first Wars film. Brings back memories . . .
. . . Also horrid such, when I associate to the series they followed up The Final Battle with. Can you say "brain bugs"?
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But one detail I saw that I particularly like is that the Visitor’s human disguises seem to quite a lot thicker than they were in the original. Take a close look at 1:02. The disguise seems to be organic and it looks like it’s as thick as her thumb. A definite improvement over the Mission Impossible knock-offs they used in the original.
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Jade Owl wrote:Am I the only one that finds the delivery method for the little speech sort of ridiculous? I mean… a giant flat screen on the belly of the ship? Really? I guess high jacking the airwaves to broadcast their message might be interpreted the wrong way, but still… a giant flat screen on the belly of the ship?
I actually like it because of that. Yes, it's ostentatious. It's impractical. But it's also a huge "look what we can do", a very visible, very harmless demonstration of their technology. Granted, so are huge spaceships (and the original version of hacking into every TV station on the world), but it's flamboyance takes the edge of the menance of alien ships hanging in the skies. Rather than interfering with our communications, they're broadcasting directly to us. It's also a nice parallel to the ID4 aliens, who hovered menacingly over human cities, saying nothing until they attacked.
And on a more subtle note, our first contact with the Visitors is a beautiful, friendly woman telling us how happy they are, how this will change everything... as she looks down on us.
#1 - Taking over all communications, and thereby disrupting the world and scarying the shit out of everyone on how easy it was done.
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#2 - Showing a nice human face you have to look up to see (in reverence almost), that's not screwing with your recording of the show you are missing, and hints the aliens have the ability to give everyone big screen TVs?
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Not if you take it seriously, but it has significant camp value. I have rarely had as much fun as when I watched V again a few years ago...
How could you take it seriously? I refer more to the effects, some of them are quite bad. Especially anything with the fighters/shuttles. Maybe I'll take it out again and see if I think differently.
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I remember an episode about a wedding in which the bride bit off a mouse's head. That one freaked out my brother to the point of sleepwalking.
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To this day V remains one of my favourite TV shows from the 80's. I had heard that the series was getting a finish as IIRC it all ended on a cliff hanger.
The trailer looked very good to me, but I am worried to see them move away from costumes and themes of the original. I always loved how the original was an parallel of the Nazi's rise to power.
Lord Pounder wrote:I always loved how the original was an parallel of the Nazi's rise to power.
and they even used the old Jewish man showing the kids how to properly vandalize the visitors poster propaganda scene to help further that angle.
I will echo I think it was Cpl Kendall's dislike of the original mini series and tv shows poor special effects. They were par for the time far as a TV budget went, but they do not hold up well with time.
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Lord Pounder wrote:I always loved how the original was an parallel of the Nazi's rise to power.
and they even used the old Jewish man showing the kids how to properly vandalize the visitors poster propaganda scene to help further that angle.
I will echo I think it was Cpl Kendall's dislike of the original mini series and tv shows poor special effects. They were par for the time far as a TV budget went, but they do not hold up well with time.
And then his family went into hiding, but he stayed behind, and the aliens showed up to arrest them while he was calmly sitting and singing a Jewish song. I believe that was the end of that episode.
If you can watch Star Trek or classic Sci-Fi movies, then V shouldn't be that bothersome.
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As it stands it looks decent enough, although the first impression is not enough to say anything.
I am just going to politely state however, that they had better come up with something better than stealing our water. Honestly, i would have liked to have seen that Janissary idea that they touched in early on in V expanded upon.
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Lord Pounder wrote:To this day V remains one of my favourite TV shows from the 80's. I had heard that the series was getting a finish as IIRC it all ended on a cliff hanger.
The trailer looked very good to me, but I am worried to see them move away from costumes and themes of the original. I always loved how the original was an parallel of the Nazi's rise to power.
There is actually a novel that picks up a decade or so after it ended with the Visitors enemy showing up in response to the distress call the Resistance sent out at the end of the miniseries. Unfortunately I can't remember the name of it but I've seen it in Chapters several times. IIRC it's written by one of the series creators.
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The shuttlecraft at about 0:36 look quite nice, the designs that were in the original series were pretty cool with a modular design.
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